Senator might bar people on terror list from guns
Author of defeated background check bill might bar guns from people on terror list

http://news.yahoo.com/senator-might-bar-people-terror-134442872.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A Senate sponsor of a defeated compromise on expanding gun sale background checks says he'll consider changing the measure to add people on the government's terror list to those forbidden from owning firearms.

Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia says he's trying to find enough votes to push an altered background check measure through the Senate. Senators rejected it last week.

Manchin told reporters Tuesday that following last week's bombing in Boston, he might add language forbidding terrorists from getting guns. He said adding that category might make senators more comfortable with his bill.

It was unclear which list Manchin was talking about. The government has investigated hundreds of thousands of people for terrorist ties, though not all are guilty and only a few are on a "no-fly" list.

What issues I see with this already?

How many people get on this list without willingly knowing.

They always mix up names.  My friend who has a Japanese name was barred

because a Yakuza dude had the same name.....Took him months to clear himself.

Well, any persons who currently own a legal firearm is obviously a terrorist,  cause the idiots in washington are scared of us.  Soooo.......

This is a slippery slope. They will use any means to dis-arm lawful ownership of firearms except for them.

Senator might bar people on terror list from guns
Author of defeated background check bill might bar guns from people on terror list

http://news.yahoo.com/senator-might-bar-people-terror-134442872.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- A Senate sponsor of a defeated compromise on expanding gun sale background checks says he'll consider changing the measure to add people on the government's terror list to those forbidden from owning firearms.

Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia says he's trying to find enough votes to push an altered background check measure through the Senate. Senators rejected it last week.

Manchin told reporters Tuesday that following last week's bombing in Boston, he might add language forbidding terrorists from getting guns. He said adding that category might make senators more comfortable with his bill.

It was unclear which list Manchin was talking about. The government has investigated hundreds of thousands of people for terrorist ties, though not all are guilty and only a few are on a "no-fly" list.

You would think that under the current "common sense" and "sensible" legislation we already have passed, that it would ALREADY be against the law for someone on the terror list to possess or purchase firearms.  You would think.......

While barring "terrorists" from accessing guns seem like common sense, the label of "terrorist" can easily be misused such as shown on the links below.

Army Training Material on "Religious Extremism" Lists Evangelical Christians, Catholics and Sme Jews Alongside KKK, Al-Qaeda and Hamas

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/05/army-training-material-on-religious-extremism-lists-evangelical-christians-catholics-and-some-jews-alongside-kkk-al-qaeda-and-hamas/

US Army Training Instructor Classifies Catholics, Evangelicals as Extremists Like Al-Qaeda, Hamas

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/04/08/us_army_training_instructor_classifies_catholics_evangelicals_as_extremists_like_al_qaeda_hamas

^^^^ +1. JI808, that is a very sensible explanation. Aloha

A link from another news org on the same topic:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2013/04/24/178668578/people-on-terror-watch-list-not-blocked-from-buying-guns




Of the section of the story I quoted below I find several things surprising;
1. Why is Jon Lowry of the Brady Campaign not complaining about throwing people in prison?  Obviously if they are too dangerous to be on a plane, they should be in prison.
2. I'm stunning anyone from the current White House administration (Michael James Barton) openly supports the 2A and realizes how innocent people get stuck on the lists.

"It's absurd that we allow people to buy unlimited AK-47s, AR-15s and Uzis, even if we feel they are too dangerous to be allowed on a plane, even after they've gone through a security check," says Jon Lowy, a lawyer for the Brady Campaign, a gun control group.

But Michael James Barton, a White House counterterrorism official during the Bush administration, points out that there's a lot more leeway to limit someone's right to get on a plane.

"The U.S. Constitution specifically protects the right to purchase firearms. The Constitution has no specific right to use transportation of any mode," Barton says.

Before the government can limit anybody's Second Amendment rights, he says, it needs a pretty good reason. And in his experience, a lot of totally innocent people end up on the terrorism watch list — such as business associates, roommates or landlords of suspected terrorists.

"Some of them are merely individuals who have proximity to terrorism suspects and are not themselves the focus of any investigation or any suspicion whatsoever," he says.

Barton says the terrorism watch "list" actually refers to several lists of names, including the "no fly" list. All of the lists are secret, and no one can control getting on or off them. Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina says that's why the lists shouldn't determine whether someone should buy a gun.

If they are referring to NCTC's TIDE watchlist then I concur with them. There are numerous watchlists and the nomination processes are different. In addition, there is a constant vetting process.