KHSC Range Report? 8/18 (Read 21855 times)

drck1000

Re: KHSC Range Report? 8/18
« Reply #40 on: August 19, 2013, 09:16:49 PM »

no prob. We have the opposite problem at Puuloa - we schedule range days and we have problem with people showing up to shoot. Now at the moment we cater to the highpower crowd but I was thinking about proposing a more informal day such as Kokohead. Setup up your own target (very big ones - I think they are 5'x5') and shooters spot their own shots. No pit duty and we call a cease fire every 15 mins. to repair or check targets.  Caliber is still limited to 308 or 3006. We can start at the 200 yd line and end the day at 600.
That would be awesome. I've been meaning to check out Puuloa, but didn't want to compete. Something just to stretch the .308 on paper at longer ranges.

Teichi

Re: KHSC Range Report? 8/18
« Reply #41 on: August 19, 2013, 09:30:03 PM »
15 minutes to shoot then cease fire to change targets? That means about 15 minutes at 200 yards, 20 minutes at 300 yards, 30 minutes at 600. It will make for a long day.

JASAN96706

Re: KHSC Range Report? 8/18
« Reply #42 on: August 20, 2013, 09:10:39 AM »
1st time going to the range in the morning about 7:30am & all benches was taken, somehow it was hella full today & already had a waiting list. I wasnt gonna wait for a couple hours for a bench so i figure I walk the line & see if I could find some friends & just so happen there was 1 of them on the right side of the range so he told me to jump in with him since he was the only 1 on the bench. Got to meet some kool guys the side i was on also so it was a good morning, i was the guy wearing a red Manny Pacquiao logo t-shirt in case you were wondering, I know some of you I met are in this forum too  :) Never again ill go in the morning unless i get there at 5:30-6am lol.. As some of you were posting about these clowns shooting 1-2 rounds then talking stories especially with a long waiting list today, I seen that too & it really pisses me off also. Can't the RO's regulate these clowns that do that? Shooting range is to do your thing, shoot away then leave. These guys wanna talk stories go to McDonalds, Jack In The Box & do that crap.
Same here me my family and my cousin and her family all decided to try the rifle side in the moring vice afternoon, big mistake. We winded up all getting separate benches with all our kids and cousins shooting at different sides of the range. not till around 1300 did some lanes open up where we could move next to each other. We was on 80,81 and 82 lanes. But i must say the kids was having a blast so cant really complain too much.

Frog

Re: KHSC Range Report? 8/18
« Reply #43 on: August 20, 2013, 11:17:02 AM »
Do we have to join anything to shoot at puuloa?  Do we have to compete?  Or can we just show up and shoot like at kokohead?  I'd love to shoot out to 600 yards with my .308!  What do I need to do in order to shoot there?

Teichi

Re: KHSC Range Report? 8/18
« Reply #44 on: August 20, 2013, 06:40:35 PM »
Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club conducts structured courses of fire based on military known distance rifle marksmanship training.

Competitions are offered, but not mandated. Match fees are not collected from shooters that just want to zero their  gun or get ready for the next Lanai hunt.

Range fees are collected to pay the beach guards or beach guard will have to swapped out from the line which results in longer hours to complete the course of fire.

3 Relays are normally used for match days and 2 relays are used for practice days. On Practice days, relay 1 will shoot at 200 yards, then move back to 300 yards to shoot, then move to 600yards to complete the course of fire. The The second relay will pull and mark targets for the 1st relay untill the completion of the 600 yardline. Cease fire is called and the relays will swap out.

When shooting matches 1st relay fires, 2nd relay scores, 3rd relay pulls and marks targets. After the 1st relay complete the 200 yardline firing, the 1st and 3rd relay will swap out. 2nd relay will shoot, 3rd relay will score, 1 relay will pull targets. 3rd relay shoots the 200 yardline, 2nd relay scores. When all relays must complete shooting the 200 yardline before moving to the 300 yardline. Then again all relays must complete the 300 yardline before moving to the 600 yardline.

The pattern is as such

Pits / Shoot / Score / yardline
3        1          2          200        Change
1        2         3           200/300 Change
2        3         1          300/ 600 Change
3        1         2          600

The ideal timeline for a Puuloa rifle shoot
0700 is registration time in the parking lot. Shooters are organized into relays. Fees are collected. Waivers are signed. Safety brief is given.
0730 Shooters move to Alpha Range and set up the targets.
0800 Range hot 1st shot fired
1300 Last shot fired range cold
1400 Cleanup complete

What makes this system unattractive to the "average" shooter is the commitment to show up on time and stay until clean up is complete.
Anyone showing up late screws the entire group by causing reorganizing of the relays. Match relays must be divisible by 3. Practice relays by 2.
Anyone leaving early screws the group because we end up short a scorer or target puller.

The below "average" shooter screws up the group by either crossfiring onto the wrong target causing much drama for the serious competitors that spend some major $$$ shoot at Puuloa. We actually have people  fly in to attend some of our matches.

Puuloa is not the place to mount a new scope. If you havent at least zeroed at 100 yards then don't expect to hit a 5'x5' target at 200 yards.

What makes Puuloa Club attractive to shooters is the CMP affiliation. It is the only club on the state that holds service rifle competitions that are recognized by all branches of the military for Distinguished Rifle credit. CMP affiliation is also required  for mail order rifle and ammunition purchases online through the CMP stores.

The club also sponsors NRA highpower rifle matches. NRA classifications are earned  through club matches.

The only other club that holds CMP/NRA Matches is the Chinese Gun Club, but they only do pistol.

Teichi

Re: KHSC Range Report? 8/18
« Reply #45 on: August 20, 2013, 06:49:15 PM »
Membership to the Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club is regulated to 2 military to 1 civilian by the rules set by Marine Corps Base Hawaii. Military is defined as any Servicemember (Active, Reserve, Retired), Dependents, Federal Department of Defense Employees that are issued CAC ID Cards.

Membership is not required to participate in events. Non-members are assessed a higher range fee and match fee to cover insurance costs, beach guards, targetry, and range supplies.

WTF?Shane

Re: KHSC Range Report? 8/18
« Reply #46 on: August 20, 2013, 07:00:14 PM »
Guys, thanks for the info about the Puuloa Rifle and Pistol Club, but could you start a proper thread about it? This thread got off topic.