Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative? (Read 19576 times)

xer 21

Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #20 on: March 22, 2015, 01:39:47 PM »
boberg xr9 is a neat design and a good attempt at changing from the traditional action, but aside from the expensive price and unnecessary amount of extra parts, i don't see it as a necessary action since, the traditional one works fine, it just makes everything more complicated then it needs to be, and cause more problems with feeding certain rounds that haven't been crimped, it rips the case right out of the bullet head in the mag and causes a catastrophic malfunction. sometimes simple is best when it comes to firearms action,
yeah, but look at all that barrel length you get in such a small package.  its smaller than a Glock 43 with with an extra inch of barrel length.

wouldnt buy one, but it's still innovative.  its like the bullpup of pistols.

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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #21 on: March 22, 2015, 02:12:37 PM »
yeah that's a good way to describe it, it is a bullpup pistol since it has a full length barrel in a short package, i wonder how recoil is for it, but i mean unlike a rifle, pistols don't really need that huge cut in size since they all can be concealable, depending on how comfortable and easy it is to conceal you can go smaller, it is a cool design but i seen the interview with mr. boberg and hes an engineer first and a gun enthusiast second, i don't see much benefits since the xr9 does target conceal carry, yet only an inch or so more in barrel length for the equivalent in size of a subcompact is not a huge benefit for something you wont shoot out beyond 25 yards, i'm all for innovation but sometimes its better to stick with what works. hopefully he can solve the malfunction issues for the pistol then it could be even more promising in the future
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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2015, 05:47:58 PM »

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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2015, 07:59:16 PM »
Electric ignition would be good.  Someone tried it in the past but haven't heard anything since then.  It would eliminate lock time and create a smoother trigger.  Also have less parts for a smaller, lighter gun.

xer 21

Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2015, 09:08:34 PM »
Electric ignition would be good.  Someone tried it in the past but haven't heard anything since then.  It would eliminate lock time and create a smoother trigger.  Also have less parts for a smaller, lighter gun.
you would also probably allow for truly accidental discharges.  not sure if i would trust easily fallible electronics.

Sodie

Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #25 on: March 22, 2015, 09:44:17 PM »
The military has had pretty good luck with electric ignition, safety-wise...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan

xer 21

Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #26 on: March 22, 2015, 09:51:19 PM »
The military has had pretty good luck with electric ignition, safety-wise...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan
they dont have to cram all those electronics into a pistol package or a rifle receiver though. 

arent the controls actually off the body of the weapon in that?  if so, that's a different animal.  besides, its not running off a magazine, the feed has to be engaged too.  its hard to accidentally discharge with no ammo loaded.

Jl808

Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #27 on: March 25, 2015, 04:25:23 PM »
A ghost gun would be innovative but I have yet to see a real one.

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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #28 on: March 25, 2015, 04:35:34 PM »
A ghost gun would be innovative but I have yet to see a real one.


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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2015, 04:39:43 PM »
Tracking Point optics are pretty innovative.  Seems like a game changer. 

Electronics of smartguns are innovative, both in a good and bad way.

Defense Distributed is pretty innovative too.
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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2015, 04:41:18 PM »
Electric ignition would be good.  Someone tried it in the past but haven't heard anything since then.  It would eliminate lock time and create a smoother trigger.  Also have less parts for a smaller, lighter gun.

Were you thinking of the HK G11? 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_G11

It had a few innovative features such as the feeding system, but the most notable was the caseless ammo.

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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2015, 08:57:32 AM »
This gun from "From Dusk Till Dawn" is pretty innovative.

http://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/default/yp_50d7997659cad1.17741765/From-Dusk-Till-Dawn-Sex-Machine-Crotch-Pistol-1.jpg



So are the guns used by the Fembots in Austin Powers

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/03/07/article-2289836-18813034000005DC-870_634x475.jpg



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« Last Edit: March 26, 2015, 09:12:42 AM by Jl808 »
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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2015, 05:32:51 PM »
The most "innovative" gun I've bought recently is the Ruger 10/22 takedown tactical.

They took an almost perfect little rifle and made it better.

The ability to put a full size plinker in a backpack is great.

The fact that it's the über reliable 10/22, makes it that much better.
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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2015, 03:17:31 AM »
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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #36 on: April 26, 2015, 06:51:06 AM »
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Wow! This is very cool. I've often thought about using capacitors like this but never got beyond the dream stage. Doesn't seem like he's generating a lot of FPS but with a smaller projectile and a bunch more farads this could be something.   :thumbsup:
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Re: Are there any new firearms that are actually innovative?
« Reply #38 on: April 26, 2015, 08:30:07 PM »
Hey thanks! I'm definitely going to fool around with this. I've got a bunch of electronic stuff laying around and some caps. I love stuff like this...... :geekdanc:
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