I understand your way of thinking.  I would hope as your son gets older and matures you will be able to introduce him to guns (firearms, air powered, spring powered, etc.) and he will be able to learn safe gun handling (regardless of how it's powered).

i agree.. he is only 2 right now so when he ask questions about guns i gotta keep it simple.

Quote from: GZire on January 05, 2012, 01:52:18 PM

I understand your way of thinking.  I would hope as your son gets older and matures you will be able to introduce him to guns (firearms, air powered, spring powered, etc.) and he will be able to learn safe gun handling (regardless of how it's powered).

i agree.. he is only 2 right now so when he ask questions about guns i gotta keep it simple.

When my kids were that little it was simple, "dont touch."  My oldest when she was about 2 decided it would be a great idea to run over and push my M1A over that was leaning against the wall next to me while I was probably typing something irrelevant on a forum.  I caught her just as she smiled and pushed it, but did not catch the rifle.  It bounced on the tile, and cracked the Boyd's walnut stock it came with from the factory, and slightly bent one of the front sight ears.  My subsequent show of fury (Daddy's temper tantrum) was enough I think for her and my unborn to know, "dont touch."  My kids have seen guns around the house since they can remember.  Touching them is associated with cleaning them, which they dont usually like to help me with, just like their mother.

Quote from: onfloat on January 05, 2012, 06:54:20 AM

A thought about the orange tip; what happens when the bad guys start painting the tips of real guns orange? Relying on colors to identify a real threat is probably not the best solution.

Translucent airsoft is probably the right choice.  good luck making your 9mm translucent. Do a search for kwiknru you will find out what happens when you paint your gun.  You cause problems and a big stink for 2A rights.
As a policy matter, this wouldn't really make sense -- nor would I really support it.  I don't however think that kids should be able to purchase the airsof without a colored tip.

The 8 yr old may not know, but if we see a 15-17 year old (you can be damn sure he does).  It could be the difference between the kid going home, or being laid to rest.

A long time ago when I used to frequent poweredge and shoot kids with 6mm plastic bb's; they would offer to remove the orange tip when you bought the gun right behind the counter in full view and on camera.  Not sure what they used (acetone, MEK, paint thinner) but it took them about 10 seconds and it didnt matter if you were playing there same day or just taking it home to show the home boys in palolo valley.

In the handgun recommendations post I brought up the idea of airsoft guns for training purposes.  My neighbor has his CCW for when he goes home to the mainland.  His carry gun is a 92fs and he has an airsoft replica that he uses to train with in his house.  But then again its only him and his wife, they have no kids.  The other thing is the use of simunnitions.  All these things are training aides to help better an individual or team.  What it boils down to is training and frame of mind.  How many times I've seen those airsoft guys, adults included, brandishing their airsoft replicas like their Rambo and then when you show them your real firearm they do the same thing.  It shows they have no respect for the power of a real gun.  I'm sure for all of you who have children you will teach them the proper respect and how to enjoy any type of "gun" safely.

Quote from: Funtimes on January 06, 2012, 01:14:49 AM

Quote from: onfloat on January 05, 2012, 06:54:20 AM

A thought about the orange tip; what happens when the bad guys start painting the tips of real guns orange? Relying on colors to identify a real threat is probably not the best solution.

Translucent airsoft is probably the right choice.  good luck making your 9mm translucent. Do a search for kwiknru you will find out what happens when you paint your gun.  You cause problems and a big stink for 2A rights.
As a policy matter, this wouldn't really make sense -- nor would I really support it.  I don't however think that kids should be able to purchase the airsof without a colored tip.

The 8 yr old may not know, but if we see a 15-17 year old (you can be damn sure he does).  It could be the difference between the kid going home, or being laid to rest.

A long time ago when I used to frequent poweredge and shoot kids with 6mm plastic bb's; they would offer to remove the orange tip when you bought the gun right behind the counter in full view and on camera.  Not sure what they used (acetone, MEK, paint thinner) but it took them about 10 seconds and it didnt matter if you were playing there same day or just taking it home to show the home boys in palolo valley.

I would see to it that the company was brought up on charges.  I'm sure the liability in that is pretty great; helping the kids commit crimes (and worse, doing it for them) is just stupid and wrong.  That's all we need is some stupid shop making it harder for police to determine whether or not to shoot the kid.

Quote from: nf9648 on January 06, 2012, 05:35:24 AM

Quote from: Funtimes on January 06, 2012, 01:14:49 AM

Quote from: onfloat on January 05, 2012, 06:54:20 AM

A thought about the orange tip; what happens when the bad guys start painting the tips of real guns orange? Relying on colors to identify a real threat is probably not the best solution.

Translucent airsoft is probably the right choice.  good luck making your 9mm translucent. Do a search for kwiknru you will find out what happens when you paint your gun.  You cause problems and a big stink for 2A rights.
As a policy matter, this wouldn't really make sense -- nor would I really support it.  I don't however think that kids should be able to purchase the airsof without a colored tip.

The 8 yr old may not know, but if we see a 15-17 year old (you can be damn sure he does).  It could be the difference between the kid going home, or being laid to rest.

A long time ago when I used to frequent poweredge and shoot kids with 6mm plastic bb's; they would offer to remove the orange tip when you bought the gun right behind the counter in full view and on camera.  Not sure what they used (acetone, MEK, paint thinner) but it took them about 10 seconds and it didnt matter if you were playing there same day or just taking it home to show the home boys in palolo valley.

I would see to it that the company was brought up on charges.  I'm sure the liability in that is pretty great; helping the kids commit crimes (and worse, doing it for them) is just stupid and wrong.  That's all we need is some stupid shop making it harder for police to determine whether or not to shoot the kid.

Go for it. Poweredge is still in business and probably still doing the same thing.

Quote from: Funtimes on January 07, 2012, 11:19:58 PM

Quote from: nf9648 on January 06, 2012, 05:35:24 AM

Quote from: Funtimes on January 06, 2012, 01:14:49 AM

Quote from: onfloat on January 05, 2012, 06:54:20 AM

A thought about the orange tip; what happens when the bad guys start painting the tips of real guns orange? Relying on colors to identify a real threat is probably not the best solution.

Translucent airsoft is probably the right choice.  good luck making your 9mm translucent. Do a search for kwiknru you will find out what happens when you paint your gun.  You cause problems and a big stink for 2A rights.
As a policy matter, this wouldn't really make sense -- nor would I really support it.  I don't however think that kids should be able to purchase the airsof without a colored tip.

The 8 yr old may not know, but if we see a 15-17 year old (you can be damn sure he does).  It could be the difference between the kid going home, or being laid to rest.

A long time ago when I used to frequent poweredge and shoot kids with 6mm plastic bb's; they would offer to remove the orange tip when you bought the gun right behind the counter in full view and on camera.  Not sure what they used (acetone, MEK, paint thinner) but it took them about 10 seconds and it didnt matter if you were playing there same day or just taking it home to show the home boys in palolo valley.

I would see to it that the company was brought up on charges.  I'm sure the liability in that is pretty great; helping the kids commit crimes (and worse, doing it for them) is just stupid and wrong.  That's all we need is some stupid shop making it harder for police to determine whether or not to shoot the kid.

Go for it. Poweredge is still in business and probably still doing the same thing.

Hahahaha, I can see it now...

"your honor I would like to file charges because someone on a forum, who's real name I don't know alleged that he saw someone who he can't remember on a date that he can't remember do something that may or may not be illegal."