The Rapback legal action Thread (Read 185820 times)

oldfart

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2016, 11:14:37 AM »
Thanks  for doing this.
Threw a few bucks in the pot.
What, Me Worry?

kkt

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2016, 11:57:03 AM »
Sent funds to Paypal.
Thanks for fighting for us all!

London808

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2016, 11:59:00 AM »
Thank you guys for your contribution.

Me and Zippz went visit HPD, The AG and the City corporate counsel.

Needeless to say it went as predicted,

Major Robinson appeared in the Lobby whilst i was waiting. When asked what i was there for i explained about the Rap back fee for reapplication being in violation of the law, Was told if i dident pay it i would not get my permit.

Told him i was still going to apply and they can do what they got to do, Got to the counter and caused confusion when i said i wasent paying, Filled out the forms, Got the New rapback forms (see below) I asked if they were approved/provided by the AG's office and was told no they were provided by the FBI, I informed them that i could not sign them. Handed everything in ad we will see in 2 weeks if i get a permit or not (most likley not).

Left HPD went to the AG to enquirer about the legality of the Fee's and the Forms ACTUALLY GOT TO SPEAK TO PEOPLE!!!!!!!. Was told we cant help you the law dosent allow it, Was given the phone number of an AG investigator who i will contact this week. Was advised that the City corporate counsel might be able to help. So went over  to Honolulu Hale (Christmas decorations are up)  Spoke to one of the very nice ladies, Explained the situation with the fees and how i would rather avoid a lawsuit. Was told that they couldn't give me legal advice, Informed them that i dident want any i wanted them to provide HPD with legal advice. A phone call saying dont do that is better then paying $20k in legal fees. They took my name and number, Told me they would give me a call. 

Anything i missed Zippz ?

"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

London808

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2016, 12:04:22 PM »
Stooped by J.Hara Store in Kaimuki on the way home, Spoke to the great people there about them becoming a drop of center for donations. They said they were in. SO if you want to make a donation you can put it in an envelope marked STOP RAP BACK and drop it of to them. They will make sure it get my way.

J.Hara Store
3221 Waialae Ave, Honolulu, HI 96816

They are located on the lower level to the right of Times supermarket.

"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

suka

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2016, 12:46:35 PM »

28USC 534
Authority



Providing your fingerprints and associated information is voluntary; however, failure to do so may affect completion or approval of your application.

suka

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2016, 12:49:07 PM »
If someone refuses to volunteerly offer their info, how would it affect registering a firearm?

stangzilla

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2016, 12:58:43 PM »
sent funds via paypal
thanks for taking this on!  :thumbsup:

London808

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2016, 01:02:55 PM »
If someone refuses to volunteerly offer their info, how would it affect registering a firearm?

I guess we will find out in 14 days,

I did not deny access to my information to avoid a background check, I did not deny my payment of the fee to avoid a background check, I denied payment because its not required by law, I denied consent to enroll me in Rap back.

There is nothing in my history that would prohibit me from owning firearms. This is not a Background check it is an illegal continuous search without warrant or cause. It would be like placing a tarcking device on cars and sending them a ticket automatically, Because you can go fast it means you will.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

stangzilla

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2016, 01:30:54 PM »
have you tried to contact NRA and HRA about posting the gofundme/paypal on their FB page and other social media?

Heavies

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2016, 01:33:25 PM »
Awesome report.  I will continue to share!

315 more people, donate your $42, give to this fight, not to the state tyrants.

dv808

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #30 on: December 05, 2016, 01:39:54 PM »
$ sent via PayPal.

Sent from my HTC6545LVW using Tapatalk

z06psi

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #31 on: December 05, 2016, 04:48:58 PM »
50.00 sent.

GlockNewb

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #32 on: December 05, 2016, 07:07:46 PM »
Sent via paypal - more ammo for the battle to come
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

punaperson

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #33 on: December 05, 2016, 07:10:32 PM »
I posted the basic info about the RapBack situation and the links to donatioins on the CalGuns National Second Amendment Political and Legal Forum thread about the issue in Hawaii. I wonder if anyone from out of state will make a monetary donation? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1212226&page=2 (comment #77).

A couple of comments in the thread:

Well, I'll let the wife know that we will not be going to Hawaii any more...
Had been going there every 2 years...spending 6-8k each time, no more. Instead we will dump that money into more AZ property.


While we didn't spend anywhere near what your tab was,we will join you in staying away from hawaii!.
It rained too much and traffic was horribile, not to mention every street had a similar name!
Scottsdale,Tucson,even Yuma will be better vacation choices. Besides I like to legally carry a firearm!

oldfart

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #34 on: December 05, 2016, 10:06:53 PM »
Ladies and Gents,

I would like to make a point about this situation that perhaps no one has brought up yet.
Basically we are in a lose-lose situation.
If you go ahead and make your purchase today then you just bent over and took one in the butt...they win.
If you stopped or delayed a purchase because of this law, then the antigun libs have won a huge victory by stopping a legitimate transaction.
They win again.

We are so screwed. :(
What, Me Worry?

ibuytoys

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #35 on: December 05, 2016, 11:10:34 PM »
Donation sent through GoFundMe.  We need more people to get active in thread and donate to stop this BS!
« Last Edit: December 05, 2016, 11:37:48 PM by ibuytoys »

GlockNewb

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #36 on: December 05, 2016, 11:26:50 PM »
Ladies and Gents,

I would like to make a point about this situation that perhaps no one has brought up yet.
Basically we are in a lose-lose situation.
If you go ahead and make your purchase today then you just bent over and took one in the butt...they win.
If you stopped or delayed a purchase because of this law, then the antigun libs have won a huge victory by stopping a legitimate transaction.
They win again.

We are so screwed. :(

2a rights, from the limited time I've been attentive, have always been an uphill battle in Hawaii. But who says the only way is up the hill...why not around? I totally agree this is not a game that can be won with the rules as they stand, so the next step would be to change the rules.
"Fast is slow, slow is smooth, smooth is fast."

oldfart

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2016, 07:15:10 AM »
2a rights, from the limited time I've been attentive, have always been an uphill battle in Hawaii. But who says the only way is up the hill...why not around? I totally agree this is not a game that can be won with the rules as they stand, so the next step would be to change the rules.
...
That's a nice thought. Hard to do.
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Btw, was that Aiea78 on gofundme?
What, Me Worry?

London808

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2016, 07:51:26 AM »
...
That's a nice thought. Hard to do.
....
Btw, was that Aiea78 on gofundme?

Im not sure whos who,  Some donations are from here, some are from FB people.
"Mr. Roberts is a bit of a fanatic, he has previously sued HPD about gun registration issues." : Major Richard Robinson 2016

stangzilla

Re: The Rapback legal action Thread
« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2016, 08:02:59 AM »
i attached a note on paypal payment, my screen name here on 2ahawaii.
just for your personal info.  just as long as rapback loses, its worth it.