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Inspector

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #200 on: February 24, 2017, 12:31:01 PM »
Quote from: macsak on February 24, 2017, 11:14:25 AM
i am not talking about mars, i am talking about the graph
Wasn't looking for anything climate related. And I have not verified this story. I just ran across it so I thought I would put it out here for discussion:

http://www.independentsentinel.com/hundreds-of-scientists-say-climate-change-is-not-science/
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macsak

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #201 on: February 24, 2017, 12:52:18 PM »
Quote from: Inspector on February 24, 2017, 12:31:01 PM
Wasn't looking for anything climate related. And I have not verified this story. I just ran across it so I thought I would put it out here for discussion:

http://www.independentsentinel.com/hundreds-of-scientists-say-climate-change-is-not-science/

but omnigun's research says otherwise...
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #202 on: February 24, 2017, 12:57:25 PM »
Quote from: macsak on February 24, 2017, 12:52:18 PM
but omnigun's research says otherwise...

The 2 Mars theory scientists need to find a government with grant money to get 97% of some pool of scientists (like those scientists in that bar at the time) to support it.   That's a good statistical sampling.  Once they get 97% or more, they can push their "legitimate" theory as "settled science."

They need to start buying drinks and getting supporters before Al Gore appropriates their theory!
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London808

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #203 on: February 24, 2017, 01:12:48 PM »
Quote from: Inspector on February 24, 2017, 11:12:29 AM
I just debunked your whole story because of that picture they used.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast24may_1

Gotta love all this manmade climate change crap!!!  :tinfoil: :tinfoil: :tinfoil:

 :needvid:

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punaperson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #204 on: February 24, 2017, 01:28:26 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on February 24, 2017, 10:59:02 AM
Plz elaborate how the positioning of mars and the amount of sunlight changes the co2 levels in earth.  [In the past those levels rose and fell cause of volcanoes etc]  Just cause an article says something doesn't make it true!
The hypothesis being put forward is precisely because those changes in CO2 and overall climate temperature turn out to coincide with the "Mars effect"/"resonance transition" on Earth's orbit/orientation to the sun. You'll note that the extreme changes in temperature and CO2 have occurred in the past 430,000 years of the graph at fairly regular intervals... and this time period is long long after the extinction of the dinosaurs due to a meteor collision and/or extreme volcanic activity, events which stretch back millions of years. It would be "suspicious" if extreme volcanic activity occurred at such regular intervals, or even suggest that the extreme volcanic activity was an effect of some other regularly intervaled causal event (such as Martian resonance transition). Please note also that humans did not exist is any significant numbers for 98% graphed time, and weren't creating enough CO2 to possibly effect the atmosphere for 99.9% of the time graphed.

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Inspector

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #205 on: February 24, 2017, 02:30:34 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #206 on: February 24, 2017, 10:41:13 PM »
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Heavies

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #207 on: February 25, 2017, 12:11:53 AM »
Quote from: London808 on February 24, 2017, 01:12:48 PM


We are going to need the rocket stove at this rate....

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #208 on: February 25, 2017, 12:19:32 AM »
That stove is so HOT! I can feel the heat through the computer screen!

I'll have to watch the demo a few more time to make sure I'll be satisfied.....with the stove.   :worship:
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Inspector

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #209 on: February 25, 2017, 07:51:41 AM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on February 25, 2017, 12:19:32 AM
That stove is so HOT! I can feel the heat through the computer screen!

I'll have to watch the demo a few more time to make sure I'll be satisfied.....with the stove.   :worship:
What stove?  :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:
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drck1000

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #210 on: May 22, 2017, 08:45:44 AM »
Obama Speaks on Global Warming, Then Spews CO2 With Private Jet, 13-Car Motorcade

https://heatst.com/politics/obama-speaks-on-global-warming-then-spews-co2-with-private-jet-13-car-motorcade/

Do as I say, not as I do. . .
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omnigun

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #211 on: May 22, 2017, 08:47:24 AM »
Quote from: drck1000 on May 22, 2017, 08:45:44 AM
Obama Speaks on Global Warming, Then Spews CO2 With Private Jet, 13-Car Motorcade

https://heatst.com/politics/obama-speaks-on-global-warming-then-spews-co2-with-private-jet-13-car-motorcade/

Do as I say, not as I do. . .

Sure lets fly and drive the former president who people threaten his life in a prius and commercial jet.  What could go wrong.... The amount of co2 produced vs what can be saved is also far different.  Its like letting one person starve to feed thousands later on.
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punaperson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #212 on: May 22, 2017, 09:00:39 AM »
Quote from: omnigun on May 22, 2017, 08:47:24 AM
Sure lets fly and drive the former president who people threaten his life in a prius and commercial jet.  What could go wrong.... The amount of co2 produced vs what can be saved is also far different.  Its like letting one person starve to feed thousands later on.
1. Note the word "former". Why is he now more important than anyone else? If he or his family are abducted and/or killed it's (or should be) no different than any other American citizen being abducted or killed. Just my personal opinion. I don't think he's "special".
2. How did his excessively huge carbon footprint "save" anything at all, now or in the future? How did him giving a speech to "true believers" who had the financial means to pay a huge ticket price to hear him speak effect future carbon emissions (which some people ( :geekdanc:) have evidence is of no consequence anyway)?
3. No one knows for sure, because neither Obama and "his people", nor the organization paying him will reveal how much they paid him, but some estimates are over $3 million dollars.
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drck1000

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #213 on: May 22, 2017, 09:01:41 AM »
Quote from: omnigun on May 22, 2017, 08:47:24 AM
Sure lets fly and drive the former president who people threaten his life in a prius and commercial jet.  What could go wrong.... The amount of co2 produced vs what can be saved is also far different.  Its like letting one person starve to feed thousands later on.
Who said anything about driving in a Prius or anything else?  If you don't the hypocrisy here, on MANY levels and not just about the topic of climate change, then you're truly hopeless.  In fact, not even sure I'm wasting my time responding to you here. 

But, oh, so "amount of co2 produced vs what can be saved is also far different".  Of course you have scientific evidence to back that up. . . 
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dustoff003

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon Toda
« Reply #214 on: May 22, 2017, 09:29:01 AM »
Quote from: omnigun on May 22, 2017, 08:47:24 AM
Sure lets fly and drive the former president who people threaten his life in a prius and commercial jet.  What could go wrong.... The amount of co2 produced vs what can be saved is also far different.  Its like letting one person starve to feed thousands later on.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #215 on: May 22, 2017, 11:37:26 AM »
Quote from: omnigun on May 22, 2017, 08:47:24 AM
Sure lets fly and drive the former president who people threaten his life in a prius and commercial jet.  What could go wrong.... The amount of co2 produced vs what can be saved is also far different.  Its like letting one person starve to feed thousands later on.

Your AI model needs updating.  The life of one former president with no real marketable skills is not worth the thousands his additional CO2 generation is creating.

Stop pretending you care about climate change, because you place Obama's safety above the Earth's!
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #216 on: May 22, 2017, 03:31:52 PM »
So with your guys reasoning no person should be valued more than another.  Former president and anyone of power are useless normal's once they leave.  If you have a grudge against them just wait 4 or 8 years then you can kill them easy....I seriously hope you don't think that.  Also people speaking to others to push an important topic is bad?  What about professors giving speeches or people giving speeches for charity I suppose you are all against that too.   We are a capitalist society everyone is for the money,  EVERYONE.  This does not mean they are only for the money, some people want money and good.  I have no problem with what Obama did if it takes a difference long term.  If more people are helped than damage.   If he can convince more people to conserve and invest in green it will more than offset the extra co2.  Its all about the big picture and the long term.


Let one person die to save thousands type of thinking. 
Or alternatively
Kill one person to save thousands.
if we think of co2 as an adversary.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #217 on: May 22, 2017, 03:50:41 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on May 22, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
So with your guys reasoning no person should be valued more than another.  Former president and anyone of power are useless normal's once they leave.  If you have a grudge against them just wait 4 or 8 years then you can kill them easy....I seriously hope you don't think that.  Also people speaking to others to push an important topic is bad?  What about professors giving speeches or people giving speeches for charity I suppose you are all against that too.   We are a capitalist society everyone is for the money,  EVERYONE.  This does not mean they are only for the money, some people want money and good.  I have no problem with what Obama did if it takes a difference long term.  If more people are helped than damage.   If he can convince more people to conserve and invest in green it will more than offset the extra co2.  Its all about the big picture and the long term.


Let one person die to save thousands type of thinking. 
Or alternatively
Kill one person to save thousands.
if we think of co2 as an adversary.

If the science is settled, why are politicians and celebs giving speeches?  The fact they have to sell carbon exchanges and other monetary programs to offset carbon emissions indicates it's a purely political issue. 

You really want to argue one former President creating more CO2 than whole families do speaking about climate change is more important than the damage he's causing?

You need to look up Hypocrite again.  The "Do as I say, not as I do" factor overrides anything Obama says in his speeches.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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omnigun

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #218 on: May 22, 2017, 04:37:00 PM »
Quote from: Flapp_Jackson on May 22, 2017, 03:50:41 PM
If the science is settled, why are politicians and celebs giving speeches?  The fact they have to sell carbon exchanges and other monetary programs to offset carbon emissions indicates it's a purely political issue. 

You really want to argue one former President creating more CO2 than whole families do speaking about climate change is more important than the damage he's causing?

You need to look up Hypocrite again.  The "Do as I say, not as I do" factor overrides anything Obama says in his speeches.

Because no matter all the science in the world you still need to be political to get things done and convince the masses.  Many are ignorant and un-intelligent like yourself. 
I guess someone can be a hypocrite if they are a doctor and save lives but instead of saving 1 person one day they tend to a dozen injured and save all those lives.  Then by your definition they are a hypocrite cause they let that 1 person die.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: All References to ‘Climate Change’ Deleted From White House Website at Noon
« Reply #219 on: May 22, 2017, 04:44:06 PM »
Quote from: omnigun on May 22, 2017, 04:37:00 PM
Because no matter all the science in the world you still need to be political to get things done and convince the masses.  Many are ignorant and un-intelligent like yourself. 
I guess someone can be a hypocrite if they are a doctor and save lives but instead of saving 1 person one day they tend to a dozen injured and save all those lives.  Then by your definition they are a hypocrite cause they let that 1 person die.

Obama is not a doctor saving lives.  Your ability to come up with analogies SUCKS!!!

Obama is GETTING PAID to show up to a POLITICAL SPEECH EVENT to RAISE MONEY.  That money is being used to pay for the people who organized the event, to support other climate change pushing candidates, and hold more events.

Their goal is to use that treasure chest to buy political support so they can then have laws passed to steal money from tax payers to funnel into green/renewable energy schemes.  All without a definitive objective in mind.  "Save the Earth" is about all you can get out of the Climate Change cheerleaders.
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