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Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's (Read 11934 times)

zippz

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2018, 05:59:24 PM »
Haven't found the ad yet.  Supposed to be a full spread ad.  Sigh.

I did find more info behind the 1994 Hawaii handgun ban.  It came down to the wire in conference committee.  Almost banned handguns....or almost failed.  These things can happen when people don't do anything.













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Drakiir84

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2018, 10:51:19 PM »
“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.”

― Heinrich Himmler
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"The rifle is a weapon. Let there be no mistake about that. It is a tool of power, and thus dependent completely upon the moral stature of its user. It is equally useful in securing meat for the table, destroying group enemies on the battlefield, and resisting tyranny. In fact, it is the only means of resisting tyranny, since a citizenry armed with rifles simply cannot be tyrannized."
-Jeff Cooper

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Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2018, 03:07:34 AM »
Quote from: Drakiir84 on April 14, 2018, 10:51:19 PM
“Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA -- ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.”

― Heinrich Himmler

This is another perfect example of an unverified quote being attributed to an individual and being used as propaganda.

There is no verified source or cited work that confirms Himmler ever said this. In fact, of all the controversial quotes attributed to Himmler, this is literally the only one that is disputed.
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zippz

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2018, 09:50:46 AM »
Interesting article I found in a magazine.  Could use some of these groups here to build up our base.
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zippz

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2018, 08:15:29 AM »
After 6 hours of searching I finally found it in the advertiser!

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zippz

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #25 on: April 24, 2018, 02:43:35 PM »
I went to the State Archives office today (https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=29982.40) and pulled some old bills.  The handgun ban and the $1,000 handgun tax bills.
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changemyoil66

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #26 on: April 24, 2018, 02:53:32 PM »
If they were going to ban all handguns, did the NRA-ILA get involved or any other org?  Seems like we gave up a lot, just to keep something that would not have been banned or major lawsuits and the ban overturned.

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zippz

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #27 on: April 24, 2018, 03:10:05 PM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on April 24, 2018, 02:53:32 PM
If they were going to ban all handguns, did the NRA-ILA get involved or any other org?  Seems like we gave up a lot, just to keep something that would not have been banned or major lawsuits and the ban overturned.

Would have to look up the old testimonies which I wanted to do, but would've taken too long.  The handgun ban was very close to taking effect.  The original bill introduced banned all possession of handguns and existing ones would've been confiscated, but was later amended for grandfathering.  It could've been like Washington DC, who had their handgun ban since 1975, and we wouldn't have been able to own handguns from 1994 to 2008 until the Heller case.
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zippz

Re: Hawaii firearms coalition from the 1990's
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2018, 06:10:51 PM »
Talked to Allan Gotlieb pres of SAF and he was intrigued by the coalition and said that Sam Slim was on their board.   Also got info on NRA club affiliation.  Looking good.
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