This might be outside the topic, but what are your guys' thoughts on the new Vortex 1-10?

I want one.

I want one.

I want to try out when you get one.   

Nice but way out of my budget....went with a Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10x instead. SFP but couldn't pass up the huge discount they offer. Already have their 1-6x and like the glass for the price....maybe one day I'll get to own the Vortex

Nice but way out of my budget....went with a Swampfox Arrowhead 1-10x instead. SFP but couldn't pass up the huge discount they offer. Already have their 1-6x and like the glass for the price....maybe one day I'll get to own the Vortex

Never heard of Swampfox. Browsing their website, looks interesting

The guy Mike used to be with primary arms and went on his own to start this company. Many good reviews popping up on YT...again, can't compare to the FFP Vortex but for the money...u get good glass....There's a coupon code to use on their site for 25% off or even better if you're LE or veteran

The Razor Gen III 1-10? I’m really interested in at least trying it out. Had a couple of reviews on YouTube.  Since I recently got a NF, don’t think it would realistically buy one for myself though. 

Yeah the ATACR was on my radar as well, but after the G3 came out I changed my mind.  If they had made it a 1-8 I would’ve passed on it and gotten the NF, but they made it a 1-10 and at the same weight to boot.  The Gen 2 was solid and hefty to me for a 1-6, just like my Eotech Vudu.  Solid, but thicc.  I saw the reviews from Sage Dynamics, 9-Hole, and WPS with each covering different aspects. 

Nikon Black 100 1-6?  I think Honest outlaw and mrgng gave it good reviews

Not sure how available it is now that Nikon is getting out of scopes

I think i saw nikon black 1-6 for ~500$ 9or so

Edit : nvm its 600 and 10 bucks shipping. Think they charge tax too

The guy Mike used to be with primary arms and went on his own to start this company. Many good reviews popping up on YT...again, can't compare to the FFP Vortex but for the money...u get good glass....There's a coupon code to use on their site for 25% off or even better if you're LE or veteran

Seems like a decent price.  Personally, I would wait for a company like that to establish a track record.  That said, being a P/A spinoff, probably a good sign.  Seems like there's information on them from mid 2019.  That said, seems comparable to the mid-range P/A offerings and the Vortex PST lines. 

I know a shooting instructor who has been using the Strike Eagle 1-8 and he's been happy with it performance wise.  Similar use to what I value, which is a defensive carbine, not uber precision or ultra clear glass.  I think some reviews and reviewers don't go into context of use, which for me is different for LPVOs than say an optic that would go on a bolt gun. 

Yeah the ATACR was on my radar as well, but after the G3 came out I changed my mind.  If they had made it a 1-8 I would’ve passed on it and gotten the NF, but they made it a 1-10 and at the same weight to boot.  The Gen 2 was solid and hefty to me for a 1-6, just like my Eotech Vudu.  Solid, but thicc.  I saw the reviews from Sage Dynamics, 9-Hole, and WPS with each covering different aspects.

I had been set on the ATACR for a while, but took me a while to finally swallowing the price pill and also took me a while to get the mount and actually mount the optic.  Interesting that a 1-10 package is similar size and weight to 1-8 offerings.  If I were to do it all over today, now that the 1-10 is out, while I do think I would have a tougher decision than with the Razor Gen 2 version, I think I would have still gone with the ATACR.  The reticle and other aspects were key for me.  However, I'm pretty sure that I would be happy with a Razor Gen 2 1-6 (and $1k+ more in my pocket), but likely always have "the wants" for the 1-8 and now 1-10 models. . .

Seems like a decent price.  Personally, I would wait for a company like that to establish a track record.  That said, being a P/A spinoff, probably a good sign.  Seems like there's information on them from mid 2019.  That said, seems comparable to the mid-range P/A offerings and the Vortex PST lines. 

I know a shooting instructor who has been using the Strike Eagle 1-8 and he's been happy with it performance wise.  Similar use to what I value, which is a defensive carbine, not uber precision or ultra clear glass.  I think some reviews and reviewers don't go into context of use, which for me is different for LPVOs than say an optic that would go on a bolt gun.

the Strike Eagle line was updated recently with new reticle and includes a throw lever with the LPVO. lately I've been doing some research, helping with a build for a friend and doing some video watching on different optics, thinking I might have to update the optics on at least one of my AR's. I'm going to put a reflex sight on my HD AR, and thinking maybe LPVO for another AR. I'm not going to build another AR but just swap out optics.