Is there a copy of the Hawaiian constitution online that I can read?

http://lrbhawaii.org/con/conart1.html

I meant the Hawaiian Republic constitution. Not the state of Hawaii constitution. I want to see how the republic is going to be setup if the U.S. relinquishes Hawaii back to the native Hawaiians.

Okay, I understand what you meant regarding irrelevancy under the law and occupation.

However, when I referenced handouts and getting on the list I was strictly referring to the Hawaiian Homelands list and home handout. You see every native Hawaiian I know here on this island works in either construction or tech. And they all make a living wage or better. And all are on the list or are already living in a Hawaiian Homeland home. So when I said “handout” this is what I was referring to and not the “low educated, welfare dependent Hawaiians”. So tell me why then do the native Hawaiians I know who are doing well for themselves are not concerned with the illegal occupation? I realize that I am just seeing a small slice of the native population but this has been my experience since living on this island.

It is not surprising to see some Native Hawaiians who are opposed or neutral of the illegal occupation of Hawaii by the US.  The most obvious reason for well-to-do Hawaiians who share those views are that politics is not their thing, only money.  For example, where there people in China who were making money during Japan's occupation of their country during WWII?  The answer is yes, and those Chinese could have cared less if the Japanese stayed in China for the next 100 years, as long as they were still making money.  But you know what those kind of people are called right?   TRAITORS.

Another possible reason is because they, themselves, are still ignorant of the events leading to the illegal annexation of Hawaii, due to not having access to all the facts.  It has only been in the last decade or so, when it became mainstream in Native Hawaiian scholarly circles that the US violated their own US Constitution in their take over of Hawaii.

The third possible reason is that they consciously chose to be Americans and let me say that THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.  That is their choice, but their decision is irrelevant and have no legal bearing to those Hawaiians who want the US occupation to end.


So this leads me to a few more questions. How much of the population in percentage is actually native Hawaiian?

I personally do not know for sure.  I would look at the latest US Census data or to the population reports from OHA for that information.


And of that percentage what percentage actually is active in trying to get back to the Hawaiian Republic?

That number will be difficult to find, as to my knowledge, there has been no official data collected to that effect.

The best official gauge can be seen in many hearings asking if Hawaiians wanted to have a "nation within a nation" by the US Department of Interior.  The overwhelming response recorded in those hearings being an absolute NO, WE WANT OUR NATION BACK!


Is there a copy of the Hawaiian constitution online that I can read?

I am sure all versions of the constitutions of the Hawaiian Kingdom and Republic are accessible online.

I'm not too familiar with the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, but I can't see any successful outcome from sovereignty.  This isn't to put down those that want sovereignty but I don't think anything was well thought out.  Every sovereignty group wants something different and can't agree on anything.  So no matter the path is taken, none of them will be satisfied and will continue fighting each other while their people languish like the Indian people on drugs and in poverty.

What kind of government will there be?  Dictatorship?  Democracy?  I can't imagine a functioning Hawaiian government that won't be corrupted or abused.   Just look at how OHA turned out.

What will the economy be like?  A lot of our economy comes from the Federal and military funds, tourism, mainland and foreign investment, etc.  All the stuff that a lot of Hawaiians hate.  Build casino's like the Indian tribes?

Is it about the blood or the culture?    Do you discriminate against someone that is 10% Hawaiian versus 100%?  Some non-Hawaiians practice Hawaiian culture while some Hawaiians don't know anything about their culture.

Who provides national defense?  Do they look to the US and western world to help defend them from foreign invaders?

All lands were invaded and conquered many times in history.  King Kamehameha illegally conquered the islands.  The American way of life is the best in the world and I'm sure the Hawaiian Kingdom would've continued to adopt the western culture and be more or less where everyone is at now.
The best thing would be for the Hawaiian people to unite and move on.   Hawaiians need education and the will to succeed.   Why can't we have more Kamehameha schools?  That seems to be very successful.

But to attack institutions supported by funding provided by the estate of a private benefactor seems really petty and morally obtuse, given the level of talk individuals make about personal freedom and liberty.

I have questions.

If the Hawaiians get their sovereignty back and kick out all of the haoles, what about all of the Japanese, Chinese, Filipinos, (East) Indians, etc.? Technically, aren't they all haoles? Can they participate in the government? Who gets to decide who participates and who doesn't?

First of all, why are you presuming that the first order of business of a restored Hawaii nation is to deport all non-Hawaiians?  Please remember that the Kingdom of Hawaii as well as the Republic of Hawaii were a multi-ethnic nation.  Any talk of mass deportations is legally inconsistent to what Hawaii was prior to the illegal annexation by the US.

As to your question in regards to participation in the new government, the answer is simple, only citizens of the restored Hawaii.  Those individuals who can legally trace their genealogy to a descendant that was a citizen of the Kingdom or Hawaii or the short-lived Republic of Hawaii will organically be allowed full citizenship.  All other individual who legally entered and have lived in Hawaii after the illegal annexation of Hawaii in 1898 would be considered foreign visitors to Hawaii, who naturally can apply for permanent residency and/or naturalized citizenship, similar in process by most other nations like the US.


Would the sovereign monarchy adopt a 2nd Amendment? Considering there's no casinos or recreational marijuana here, probably not.

What makes you think a restored Hawaii would not adopt something similar to the Bill of Rights?  The constitutions of both the Kingdom of Hawaii and the Republic of Hawaii were tremendously influenced and incorporated much from the US Constitution.

With respect to the 2nd Amendment, Native Hawaiians come from a war-driven culture that has transcended to the many hunters and gun enthusiasts among the Native Hawaiian population today.  There is no hard evidence to indicate that most Native Hawaiians currently are passionately anti-firearms.


Would the Japanese have attacked PH if the US stayed out of Hawaii? I doubt it considering the close proximity the island has to the mainland coast. They probably woulda invaded and enslave/murder the population like they did to the Philippines. I don't believe a treaty woulda protected the Hawaiians.

There was no evidence that the Japanese wanted to go to war with the US.  In fact, the attack in Pearl Harbor was to cripple the US Navy so it could not interfere with Japan's regional plans of conquering all of Asia.  Let's not forget, that the majority of the Imperial Japanese army was fighting and garrisoning its occupied territories in Asia.  Japan did not and would not have the manpower to take on the US.

Would Japan invade a neutral Hawaii?  Possibly, but more likely the US would try and take over Hawaii first, as an imperial precautionary measure to create a Pacific buffer just-in-case.  In either case, the threat of invasion by the US or Japan would be a real possibility.


The courts said non-Hawaiians can participate in the OHA election. I originally read through the statements and picked the "reasonable" responses like in the OP. Afterwards I decided it wasn't my business. Not a question, just my opinion. It's nice to know that I have the option in the future to participate with my vote if I wanted.

I, as a Native Hawaiian, dislike OHA and the crony dominated ways of taking US Federal money and giving it recklessly to initiatives that has not proven to help Native Hawaiians, as clearly evidenced in the low socio-economic well-being most Native Hawaiians live under today.

I'm not too familiar with the Hawaiian sovereignty movement, but I can't see any successful outcome from sovereignty.  This isn't to put down those that want sovereignty but I don't think anything was well thought out.  Every sovereignty group wants something different and can't agree on anything.  So no matter the path is taken, none of them will be satisfied and will continue fighting each other while their people languish like the Indian people on drugs and in poverty.

Many of the so-called sovereignty groups are not basing their direction of what should be done on constitutional grounds.  Many forget that the monarchy and the short-lived Republic of Hawaii had a constitution.  Consequently, based on a legal perspective, the way the government of a restored Hawaii would function and elect its officials would be based on those laws.


What kind of government will there be?  Dictatorship?  Democracy?  I can't imagine a functioning Hawaiian government that won't be corrupted or abused.   Just look at how OHA turned out.

Once the illegal occupation ends, the Hawaii government would legally revert back to what it looked like in 1898, that being a democratic republic.

Your references to OHA is invalid.  OHA was an entity created and funded by the US.  You can't use something like OHA and extrapolate that how a restored Hawaii government would behave.


What will the economy be like?  A lot of our economy comes from the Federal and military funds, tourism, mainland and foreign investment, etc.  All the stuff that a lot of Hawaiians hate.  Build casino's like the Indian tribes?

Other than federal monies from the US, much of Hawaii's economy would still be the same.  To make-up the short-fall of federal monies, would said Hawaii could not lease part of those lands once held by the US during the occupation, to the US or some other nation for cash, gold, or some other needed economic commodity?


Is it about the blood or the culture?    Do you discriminate against someone that is 10% Hawaiian versus 100%?  Some non-Hawaiians practice Hawaiian culture while some Hawaiians don't know anything about their culture.

Neither, it is about citizenship.  Only those individuals who can trace their genealogy to someone that was a legal citizen of the Kingdom of Hawaii or Republic of Hawaii would legally be offered full citizenship to the new Hawaii nation.


Who provides national defense?  Do they look to the US and western world to help defend them from foreign invaders?

Hawaii was a internationally recognized neutral nation much like Switzerland, prior to the illegal annexation by the US.  Consequently, the national defense of a neutral Hawaii would be the responsibility of all citizens.  That would require all citizens to be capable to defend the nation; hence, be knowledgeable on the conduct of war and proficient with firearms.   

It reality, the only nation Hawaii needs to fear of being taken over is the US, as the US has partaken in most of the illegal invasion of sovereign nations since the 1980's.


All lands were invaded and conquered many times in history.  King Kamehameha illegally conquered the islands.  The American way of life is the best in the world and I'm sure the Hawaiian Kingdom would've continued to adopt the western culture and be more or less where everyone is at now.

True, but at least, the citizens of Hawaii would be the ones to make that decision on their free-will and not forced upon them by another imperial power.


The best thing would be for the Hawaiian people to unite and move on.   Hawaiians need education and the will to succeed.   Why can't we have more Kamehameha schools?  That seems to be very successful.

Different historical context.  Because there was only one Princess Pauahi Bishop who had the insight to set aside money to take care of her people and prepare them to survive in their illegally occupied nation.

Mahalo nui for the responses.

It’s hard to imagine the dissolution of the US government in Hawaii without serious animosity between the native Hawaiians and the US citizens.

For the first generation, I totally agree it would be a tremendous challenge no different to the American-born British colonists, who fought for their independence from their homeland.
However, relations will heal over time as can be seen today between the US and the UK.

It's interesting that you mention both the Monarchy era and the post-overthrow Republic, which the U.S.A. had a significant part in with gunships in the harbor and Marines on the ground backing the usurpers, as both legitimate.

Is that based on legal arguments about annexation being illegal but acknowledging the overthrow as legal (like the American, French, Chinese, Russian, etc revolutions) ?
The Republic wasn't run by Hawaiians, if I'm not mistaken. Sanford B. Dole was the President.