So if I go out and find two stories about white people who got screwed by the system, will you stop all this foolishness about the Evil White Man?  Big deal; a couple black folks got screwed; welcome to the legal system.  People of all races, colors, and creeds get hosed every single day.  It doesn't mean the world is out to get brown people; it means our system is run by humans and is by definition imperfect.  Get over it.

+ 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

I'm so sick of this whining already.

Big deal; a couple black folks got screwed; welcome to the legal system. 

it seems like you're stuck in the "it's always the white mans fault" mentality that so many island boys will never get out of their system.

So if I go out and find two stories about white people who got screwed by the system, will you stop all this foolishness about the Evil White Man?  Big deal; a couple black folks got screwed; welcome to the legal system.  People of all races, colors, and creeds get hosed every single day.  It doesn't mean the world is out to get brown people; it means our system is run by humans and is by definition imperfect.  Get over it.

who is hvybarrels?

We haven't seen him it at a meet greet, hdf shoot, or at anything other than on a conspiracy theory or race driven post.

So once again, who is this troll?

who is hvybarrels?

We haven't seen him it at a meet greet, hdf shoot, or at anything other than on a conspiracy theory or race driven post.

There are two different stories I posted links to. One is the lady who could get 25 years for a warning shot against her abusive ex boyfriend and the other is the guy who is doing life for killing a guy on his property who was threatening his family. Both should have been protected by the Stand Your Ground law. Both were of African-American descent. They weren't out cruising the neighborhood looking for strangers to hassle. The trouble came to them.

Hey Voodu better watch out if you don't agree with his opinion your in the wrong country. hope everything is going good with the move.

................The energy industry is still in the process of switching funding from climate change denial into encouraging things like carbon tradeoff credits and greenwashing advertising campaigns. They might try and extend their dominion by herding us into ultra-dense cities by making cash illegal and controlling us through credit, but chances are everything will fall apart before those plans are fully implemented. That's another thread.

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/04/01/gm-will-no-longer-give-money-to-climate-change-denying-heartland/

Three themes are emerging from the newly released emails: (1) prominent scientists central to the global warming debate are taking measures to conceal rather than disseminate underlying data and discussions; (2) these scientists view global warming as a political “cause” rather than a balanced scientific inquiry and (3) many of these scientists frankly admit to each other that much of the science is weak and dependent on deliberate manipulation of facts and data.

Some of those involved in the E-mail chains that are now under examination have concocted what on their face come across as bizarre explanations for some of the things they said, many of which boil down to the notion that the words they used did not mean what they mean. It sort of takes us back to what the meaning of "is" is.

I give a shit what he thinks. Nothing but tin foil, race card, and doom-n-gloom.

not sure what exactly you mean by that but in terms of history if any one group has been held back it is by their lack of action more than the actions of others.

Could all you haters kindly buzz off? The adults here are trying to have an intelligent conversation and you are cluttering it up.

Stand your ground should have held up is your argument.  Again I don't know much about the case, but I was again thinking about the section on Mr. McNeil's call to 911 and considered why he was charged with murder instead of manslaughter or let off.

In his statement listed on the pro-McNeil site, he said he was going to whoop ass.  Consider this;
Mr. McNeil's statement on the site did not list that #1 - I am there to save my son from being killed, or #2 I am there to take my son to the hospital because he may have been cut in the time I was on the phone with 911.  Instead his statement is "I'm going to whoop ass."  This speaks directly to his state of mind.  To me it seems that Mr. McNeil was not in fear of his life.  Add this to how he put one shot into the noggin post one warning shot and to me it seems he was way too calm.

In my naive and ignorant way about people (hey I am an engineer) I just assumed that firearms and shooting sports would be neutral ground in Hawaii.  Certainly looking around the firing line ot Koko Head seemed to reinforce that.

Now I read posts from some on 2A that seem to have a racial overtone that frankly surprised me.  If there is anything on our islands more unifying than firearms ownership and self defense (considering the political opposition to that) I am not aware of that.  FWIW, saw similar on a SCUBA forum where a black local went into orbit and far away from his normal web persona about something he decided was a racial slight. 

My $.02, worth no more than that.

That 'wup his ass' comment probably didn't help, but according to the guy across the street detailing his Ferrari Epp charged him after the warning shot. He hit Epp in the head when he was 3 feet away, which doesn't require a whole lot of skill.

There is definitely a lesson here. Be very careful what you say to 911 in the heat of the moment. Also it may be a better idea to aim for center mass. I don't think either one of those factors should outweigh the 3rd party eyewitness testimony, though. And to wait over a year before bringing up charges without new evidence? What I wonder exactly motivated the DA to pick this one up with all the other cases on his plate?

I don't know, G. That stuff is beyond me. There's such a thing as cointelpro and the media is constantly manipulated in everywhich direction so to pull it all apart you really have to dedicate a significant portion of your life to each and every issue, and at this point it's more important to learn to live with less and find ways to be valuable to others.