guys, stop it already
"no dispute" = "settled science"

noun
1. a disagreement, argument, or debate.
"a territorial dispute between the two countries"
synonyms:   debate, discussion, discourse, disputation, argument, controversy, contention,
disagreement, altercation, falling-out, quarreling, variance, dissension, conflict, friction, strife,
discord, antagonism;

oh no you didn't...

according to the oracles of social.media people like me who are not blood Hawaiian have no say in anything about lands

Illegal or legal it doesn't even matter USA won and Hawaii is ours.

No, it is not.   


You can assimilate or fight there are your two options.

No, there are more options than what your limited thinking has allowed you to post.


Every country in the entire world was formed the same way.  One country makes some excuse and takes over another's land or finds land to take over.

Sorry; the US was a country built on a system of the rule of law (i.e., Constitution, Bill of Rights), despite the many imperialists, globalists, fascists, liberals, and other domestic enemies that infiltrated its levels of government and wreck terror and violence within its own borders and the rest of the World.

Well, there seems to be significant disagreement (aka "dispute") about whether "hawaiian" means blood/DNA race, ethnicity, or "nationality" (descendant of a citizen of the "nation of Hawaii" (aka "kingdom"/"republic"). They conveniently pick and choose which one is appropriate for whatever special race-based, ethnicity-based, or nationality-based special privileges they claim entitlement to in a particular context. Very convenient indeed.

Why don't you exercise your freedom of speech and just come out and say how you truly feel that you and some others on this forum simply JUST HATE HAWAIIANS.

That shows how stupid and/or deluded you are. In this case in the sense of making completely false assumptions and allowing those false assumptions to be a premise in your following arguments (as we see in virtually everything else you post about the "illegal annexation" etc.), thus invalidating the entire argument that follows the false premise.

I don't "hate Hawaiians". You are 100% wrong, lying, full of shit, or all three. Apparently in your feeblemindedness brought on by who knows what (hawaiian sovereignty syndrome?), you, like so many on the socialist left, can't imagine that someone can vehemently disagree with someone without that person being "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic — Islamophobic — you name it". Thus "deplorable". You apparently, like the person using those terms originally, are that stupid and incapable of tolerating dissent from your vaunted holy orthodoxy.

I vehemently disagree with all kinds of people... including those who generally I have a lot of overlap of values and beliefs. I vehemently disagree with many libertarians who espouse certain libertarian policies. I vehemently disagree with Trump and his administration on some policies. I vehemently disagree with some Second Amendment rights advocates on certain issues. Etc., etc., etc. In the case above where you shout "racist" due to being triggered by any opposition to what are actually your racist policies and beliefs, the fact is I oppose the ideas and criminality of those people completely 100% independent of whatever race, ethnicity or nationality they claim. They are simply wrong about the facts and wrong about the values and wrong about breaking the law based upon those values and claiming special-privilege immunity from the laws. If there was a purple Martian saying the same stupid stuff and engaging in criminality, I'd have the exact same comments directed at it, but not because it's a purple Martian, but because it was making false statements and arguments and breaking the law.

So, nothing new, you are a liar.

Now, when are you going to give us the simple yes or no answer as to whether you stand by your claim that "there is no dispute" regarding the entire "annexation" thing?

When are you going to provide us with your credentials that would validate your expertise, which is your own stated criteria for making any relevant statements about the whole of the "annexation" etc. issues?

Stop using the protests against TMT as well as your unending attacks against recognizing the illegal of overthrow of Hawaii by the US in 1898 as a cover for what really in the basis for all your posts against TMT and myself.

YOU HATE HAWAIIANS!!!     

Your emotionally charged posts filled with violent hate harangues and name calling are a dead giveaway.

Illegal or legal it doesn't even matter USA won and Hawaii is ours.

No, it is not.   

Please explain


You can assimilate or fight there are your two options.

No, there are more options than what your limited thinking has allowed you to post.

Please explain another option that is not related.  FYI arguing some random point from the past about legality is "fighting"


Every country in the entire world was formed the same way.  One country makes some excuse and takes over another's land or finds land to take over.

Sorry; the US was a country built on a system of the rule of law (i.e., Constitution, Bill of Rights), despite the many imperialists, globalists, fascists, liberals, and other domestic enemies that infiltrated its levels of government and wreck terror and violence within its own borders and the rest of the World.

I hate to break it to you but every country bends/breaks the rule of law,  hell us rebelling against Britain was "unlawful" and that founded our country.   

Why don't you exercise your freedom of speech and just come out and say how you truly feel that you and some others on this forum simply JUST HATE HAWAIIANS.

I don't hate Hawaiians.
I wish some didn't use race based adjectives in their quest to discredit me or silence my opinion.
I've been called of "Asian privilege" even though I am mixed. People don't bother to ask.

I did not direct any comment to you Ren.   

I did not direct any comment to you Ren.   

Yes.  You did. 

By saying "you and some others on this forum simply JUST HATE HAWAIIANS.,"  you're leaving it up to us to interpret who you're accusing of hatred.

Why are you getting excited?

Nothing about you excites me.  Just calling "balls and strikes" as I see them.

Once again, you ignore the comment only to insult the commenter.