It is not the state it is the cities.
Like here in Hawaii. This is a great place to live, if
we could just eliminate Honolulu.
Honolulu ruins the state.
LA, SF, SD, and SAC ruin California.
Seattle ruins WA state.
Portland is destroying Oregon.
I propose the ancient Greek city states sort of
succession.   Let the cities become separate states.
Most democrats would welcome that solution.
Since they don't know history, they will meet the same
fate.

Seriously?  The Romans had some of the most corrupt government/rule in history. 

Was just watching the series on the Roman Empire on Netflix recently.  I've always been interested in history of the Roman Empire, it's rise and fall, etc.  Subject of many movies and stuff, but always interested me.  Anyways, super corrupt $hit went down. . .

Seriously?  The Romans had some of the most corrupt government/rule in history. 

Was just watching the series on the Roman Empire on Netflix recently.  I've always been interested in history of the Roman Empire, it's rise and fall, etc.  Subject of many movies and stuff, but always interested me.  Anyways, super corrupt $hit went down. . .

Which is why their government's fell.
I think that is the point Grov was trying to make by saying  ''Since they don't know history, they will meet the same
fate."

Which is why their government's fell.
I think that is the point Grov was trying to make by saying  ''Since they don't know history, they will meet the same
fate."

Got it.  Missed that connection in the Haiku-esque reply that he graces us with.   

It is not the state it is the cities.
Like here in Hawaii. This is a great place to live, if
we could just eliminate Honolulu.
Honolulu ruins the state.
LA, SF, SD, and SAC ruin California.
Seattle ruins WA state.
Portland is destroying Oregon.
I propose the ancient Greek city states sort of
succession.   Let the cities become separate states.
Most democrats would welcome that solution.
Since they don't know history, they will meet the same
fate.

Seriously?  The Romans had some of the most corrupt government/rule in history. 

Was just watching the series on the Roman Empire on Netflix recently.  I've always been interested in history of the Roman Empire, it's rise and fall, etc.  Subject of many movies and stuff, but always interested me.  Anyways, super corrupt $hit went down. . .

Uh, what does the Roman Empire have to do with the Greek city states?

Uh, what does the Roman Empire have to do with the Greek city states?

https://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/roman.htm

Am I improperly mixing eras?

Uh, what does the Roman Empire have to do with the Greek city states?

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Reading the comments on kitv, 95% think ca is crazy. I guess the comment editor is eating dinner.

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#nofocus

https://www.ahistoryofgreece.com/roman.htm

Am I improperly mixing eras?

I admit I was interpreting groveler's comment re "I propose the ancient Greek city states sort of succession." (secession?) to refer to the "golden age" of Greece, when the Greek city states were autonomous (NOT controlled by another culture) and had the ability to secede for alliances with other Greek city states), which was 3 centuries prior to the take over of the Greeks by the Romans. Pretty sure the Greek city states couldn't secede from anything under Roman rule.

I admit I was interpreting groveler's comment re "I propose the ancient Greek city states sort of succession." (secession?) to refer to the "golden age" of Greece, when the Greek city states were autonomous (NOT controlled by another culture) and had the ability to secede for alliances with other Greek city states), which was 3 centuries prior to the take over of the Greeks by the Romans. Pretty sure the Greek city states couldn't secede from anything under Roman rule.

"Succession" means inheriting one's title, financial wealth and/or societal position.  In those days, succession was based on family bloodline. 

Today, an example would be the US President, should he die in office or otherwise be incapacitated and unable to perform his duties.

The current Presidential Succession Act was adopted in 1947, and last revised in 2006. The line of succession follows the order of
Vice President, Speaker of the House of Representatives, President pro tempore of the Senate, and then the eligible heads of federal
executive departments who form the president's Cabinet.

Only groveler can sort this one out. Groveler?

Only groveler can sort this one out. Groveler?

My original point was secession for big city people.
Spell checker ruined part of my point.
The Greek city states I refer to preceded
the Romans by very many years.
Most famous was battle of Thermopylae.
I keep Homer next to my Sun Tzu, Machiavelli,
and a RSV Bible.
I have Caesars commentaries some where.
If you don't learn from history, you are doomed
to repeat the failures of those that live before you
regardless of race or nationality.

My original point was secession for big city people.
Spell checker ruined part of my point.
The Greek city states I refer to preceded
the Romans by very many years.
Most famous was battle of Thermopylae.
I keep Homer next to my Sun Tzu, Machiavelli,
and a RSV Bible.
I have Caesars commentaries some where.
If you don't learn from history, you are doomed
to repeat the failures of those that live before you
regardless of race or nationality.

Thanks. Yeah, your point was obvious in it's context, but thanks for spelling it out for those incapable of grasping that.

Sheesh. Rocky had already politely pointed it out what I had missed. Must be nice to be perfect...

Anyways, have a good weekend all.

Sheesh. Rocky had already politely pointed it out what I had missed. Must be nice to be perfect...

Anyways, have a good weekend all.

Yeah, It's "all Greek to me" too.

Αδράξτε τη μέρα
 

Yeah, It's "all Greek to me" too.

Αδράξτε τη μέρα
 

Et tu Rocke 

 

It is not the state it is the cities.
Like here in Hawaii. This is a great place to live, if
we could just eliminate Honolulu.
Honolulu ruins the state.
LA, SF, SD, and SAC ruin California.
Seattle ruins WA state.
Portland is destroying Oregon.
I propose the ancient Greek city states sort of
succession.   Let the cities become separate states.
Most democrats would welcome that solution.
Since they don't know history, they will meet the same
fate.

There was the bill introduced to split California into 3 states. If they did that and then ejected Souther California that might solve the problem.