Poll

Rail

Yea
11.9%
Nay
73.8%
I don't care one way or the other.
14.3%
Total Members Voted
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Rail? Yea or Nay (Read 21051 times)

Heavies

Rail? Yea or Nay
« on: May 25, 2012, 03:40:15 PM »
Just to satisfy my curiosity. Are you for or against the multi-billon dollar rail project.
I don't want to have too much debate on why it's good or bad cause the subject has been discussed ad nauseam, here on the forum and any other place you could think of.

I'd like just a vote and maybe a short reason why you are for, against, or don't care.
Or feel free to just vote.  ;D

I am just curious how our little community feels about this hot topic.
Please no swaying, just a short summary of how you feel.

K30l4

Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2012, 05:08:17 PM »
Against

urdust

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2012, 05:13:04 PM »
I'm down for double decker freeways instead

42itus

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2012, 05:15:49 PM »
I'm down for double decker freeways instead

Locals love their cars.

hnl.flyboy

Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2012, 05:18:22 PM »
Indifferent here
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Jl808

Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2012, 05:21:54 PM »
Against -- rail to nowhere. Done at the expense of taxpayers who will pay lots and lose big to the benefit of a few special interests.  The rail is also taking away budgets from existing city services. 
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2012, 08:55:49 PM »
RAIL is lame...... SUPERFERRY was AWESOME!!!

I'm into cars and guns....SUPERFERRY was PERFECT!!!!!

It's all about money......
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bass monkey

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2012, 07:35:12 AM »
Against. Hawaii sucks with maintaining crap. Not to mention thr budget. And we already got the bus.

Aegis808

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2012, 07:36:35 AM »
it's like i'm actually in the Simpons monorail episode.

wirecounter

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2012, 07:47:33 AM »
Against.  Unsustainable and our taxes will increase to support it.

Cougar8045

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2012, 08:05:37 AM »
Don't care.  The HI government does so much stuff that pisses me off already that there's no way I'm getting myself worked up about a railroad. 
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Mr. Farknocker

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2012, 08:11:30 AM »
Yes on two conditions: 1) There are only two stops; my house and the Koko Head Shooting Complex; and 2) bike racks are substituted with gun racks.

Jkeone808

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2012, 01:24:56 PM »
It's all about money and political legacy not actually helping anyone, just look at all the pro rail propaganda we have to watch on local TV.  NAY!
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astroboy

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2012, 03:42:26 PM »
Absolutely NAY. The city, state, and federal gov. are now carrying more debt than ever. The debt level continues to increase with no end in sight. Experience has shown that mass transit projects like heavy rail continue to run in the red inspite of promises made by politicians. 

GZire

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2012, 11:12:24 AM »
I've got a degree in Civil Engineering and have been in construction here since '93.

I'm against Rail.

wirecounter

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2012, 08:01:12 PM »
Slight thread drift . . .

Did anyone see the news about California's rail?  Cost increase from a few billion to over 100 billion according to the latest re-estimates.  And, the fools (politicians) in California are still going to push for it.  Um, aren't they already on the verge of bankruptcy?  What about the cost of up keep?

Of course, our illustrious president is all for it.

 :stopjack:

Heavies

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2012, 04:14:13 AM »
Thank you for all the replies!  I am seeing a trend so far here in the forum. haha.

I was against the rail project from the begining, even when the economy was good.  The proposed routes and plan would not alleviate much traffic, and even more so now, since they have bamboozled the public and changed a big portion of the plan.  In the long run I believe that when it is all said and done, Hawaii tax payers will be bankrupted by this project, and the end result will not do much of any good at solving the traffic problems we face.

This will just end up as high speed taxi service, for the tourists, from the airport to the Disney resort in Kapolei, all funded by your tax dollars, and made happen by the bully unions and crooked politicians.  :grrr:

JMHO, YMMV

GZire

Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2012, 07:45:21 AM »
^^^I was for the Rail in the beginning.  After I did a bit more research I switched my view.

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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2012, 09:06:52 AM »
Im the same way, still gonna happen though.....
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Re: Rail? Yea or Nay
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2012, 12:08:47 PM »
I work in the construction industry and I am not for the rail as it is being planned. I would be for rail if the cost was lower and we could afford it and if it were designed to help the areas that need it most. It just seems like the politicians think they are going to get a feather in their cap if they can get rail pushed through even if it is never used. It's like they are so proud of it but it appears like it is going to be a huge failure. But that doesn't seem to matter to them.  :wacko:
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