I always felt like he was deliberately throwing the election.  Never wanted him, but with the choice of getting rid of Obunga..............

Personally, I view any vote I make in the state of Hawaii as a waste of time.
I still vote, but I'm surrounded by spineless idiots and it is what it is.
Price I have to pay to live here.  Fortunately,  I live in a place and a manner
that isolates me from Democrats and their tyranny.  But people like Romney
aren't much better.  I do much better under Trump.  But my grand kids
are going to pay the price and there is nothing I can do about it.

The Dems will keep trying even tho they keep losing.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/federal-appeals-court-dismisses-trump-emoluments-case-n1132441

Imagine what will happen if Trump wins in 2020.

The Dems will keep trying even tho they keep losing.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/federal-appeals-court-dismisses-trump-emoluments-case-n1132441

Imagine what will happen   if   when Trump wins in 2020.

 

After Iowa caucus debacle it looks like Trump is going to cruise in. The only thing that would stop him now is Bernie.

After Iowa caucus debacle it looks like Trump is going to cruise in. The only thing that would stop him now is Bernie.

Do you really think Bernie has a chance against Trump? Communist vs Capitalist? In our present economy? Just wondering what your thought process is?

Do you really think Bernie has a chance against Trump? Communist vs Capitalist? In our present economy? Just wondering what your thought process is?

I posted on another thread oddsmakers have the next POTUS as Trump 59.99%, Bernie 16.7% and the others below that.

I posted on another thread oddsmakers have the next POTUS as Trump 59.99%, Bernie 16.7% and the others below that.

Not even close for old Bernie. As the Dem front runner he is a distant second to Trump. I still wonder if the Dem party is going to allow Bernie to be the Dem candidate tho. I think they are trying to push Mayor Pete cuz they cannot allow a communist (Bernie) or a Socialist (Warren) to be their pick. And Mayor Pete isn't much better. He just hides his socialist tendencies better.

Not even close for old Bernie. As the Dem front runner he is a distant second to Trump. I still wonder if the Dem party is going to allow Bernie to be the Dem candidate tho. I think they are trying to push Mayor Pete cuz they cannot allow a communist (Bernie) or a Socialist (Warren) to be their pick. And Mayor Pete isn't much better. He just hides his socialist tendencies better.

I don't think they will push Mayor Pete.  Not a lot of of blacks will vote for him.
You know the real meaning of the phrase "The low down"?
Hispanics, The ones I grew up with,  go to church. They like girls.
I think the Democrat party will let Bernie run the show and Democrats will invest in
gaining solid control of both houses of Congress.  Trump can't do much damage then.
In 2024 they they will be set for the kill of America.

Poor Dems.  Unintentionally giving more ammo to Trump.


https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2020/02/07/779473/

https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2020/02/07/video-chris-matthews-unintentionally-provides-trump-with-brilliant-2020-reelection-campaign-ad/

Do you really think Bernie has a chance against Trump? Communist vs Capitalist? In our present economy? Just wondering what your thought process is?

The kids would come out for Bernie, but right now they are staying home because they expect to get hoodwinked again and do not want to waste their time until the DNC refuses to clean up their act. The party has outlived its usefulness in its current form and the leaders are delusional. They desperately need a change but are completely addicted to corporate money.

The other thing is Bernie is the only one (besides tulsi) who could stand up to Trump in a debate. The rest of them are sitting ducks

TDS is real.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/joy-behar-view-acquittal-trump-making-crazy

Looks like Trump is cleaning house. You’re FIRED!!!

Vindmann escorted from the WH. His twin brother went with him.
Sondland remove from his post.

Draining the swamp.

The kids would come out for Bernie, but right now they are staying home because they expect to get hoodwinked again and do not want to waste their time until the DNC refuses to clean up their act. The party has outlived its usefulness in its current form and the leaders are delusional. They desperately need a change but are completely addicted to corporate money.

The other thing is Bernie is the only one (besides tulsi) who could stand up to Trump in a debate. The rest of them are sitting ducks

I pretty much agree with everything you said here with one exception. While I think Bernie has got cred because he is truly sincere about what he believes in. I just don’t think his policies will hold up against a well prepared Trump. What I am seeing is that the MSM is not even challenging Bernie on any of his policies. They are letting him get a pass with saying just about anything he wants to and not challenge it. But I really think his Socialist/Communist policies just won’t ring true with the majority once he gets in front of a well prepared debate with questions designed to truly challenge his policies. But given let’s say both Bernie and Trump debating similar policies, I agree Bernie can give Trump a run for his money.

Looks like Trump is cleaning house. You’re FIRED!!!

Vindmann escorted from the WH. His twin brother went with him.
Sondland remove from his post.

Draining the swamp.

Did they really get fired, or did they quit and get reassigned?  If they did get fired, that is a terrible move for Trump.  Opens him up to all kind of attacks and maybe even legal implications for reprisal laws.

Bad move.

Did they really get fired, or did they quit and get reassigned?  If they did get fired, that is a terrible move for Trump.  Opens him up to all kind of attacks and maybe even legal implications for reprisal laws.

Bad move.

Vindmann was on loan from the DoD. He was fired from his position in the WH and was escorted from the WH but went back to the DoD to whatever position he will get. I believe Sondland was recalled but I am not aware if he will be reassigned or will be fired.

So bernie won the pop vote, but pete won the other. Lets see dems put their money where their mouth is and give bernie the nomination.

LTC reassigned. And so was his brother.

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Vindmann was offered the position of Defense Minister in Ukraine.

I think he should jump on that opportunity if it's still open.  He obviously has dual loyalties.  Better to have him working for them where we might use his position for our benefit than the way it appears to have been working until today.

All his team needed to do was tear down the lies presented by the articles and the House Managers.  That means proving the accusations are false. 

Yet they really didn't do it. The brunt of their whole defense was procedural. They really didn't prove anything said to be a lie so your claims of so many lies is just unfounded.

Their defense was pretty much, Trump did it all but he is allowed to so too bad.

Yet they really didn't do it. The brunt of their whole defense was procedural. They really didn't prove anything said to be a lie so your claims of so many lies is just unfounded.

Their defense was pretty much, Trump did it all but he is allowed to so too bad.

In your skewed opinion.  The vote wasn't anywhere near the 2/3 they needed to convict.

If "insanity" is doing the same thing over again expecting different results, then what is "doing something for which you already are certain of the outcome, and for which you know you're going to potentially lose the House majority while simultaneously wasting the tax payer's time and money"?

I'd say it falls under TDS -- a malady that's manifested itself in more insane and petulant behavior than under any other in my memory.

If you don't know the difference between the truth and lies of omission, then you need to have someone explain it.

Lies of omission and flat out false logic and conclusions were all the House managers had to go on.

Lies, Damned Lies and Adam Schiff's Moving Lips

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/27/lies_damned_lies_and_adam_schiffs_moving_lips_142233.html

If "insanity" is doing the same thing over again expecting different results, then what is "doing something for which you already are certain of the outcome, and for which you know you're going to potentially lose the House majority while simultaneously wasting the tax payer's time and money"?

Doing what you believe is the right thing is it's own justification even if you probably won't win.

If you don't know the difference between the truth and lies of omission, then you need to have someone explain it.

Lies of omission and flat out false logic and conclusions were all the House managers had to go on.

Lies, Damned Lies and Adam Schiff's Moving Lips

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/27/lies_damned_lies_and_adam_schiffs_moving_lips_142233.html

Yet they didn't attack that, they argued procedure. Not saying there is anything wrong with arguing procedure either, just saying you a claiming a mountain of lies yet Trump's defense attorneys didn't think it necessary to address? Trump claimed it all lies and the Trump sheep line up to believe every word from his mouth as if it were gospel. Then his defense team didn't contest the testimony but the blind Trump supporters can't see what daddy Trump told them to believe.