Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee? (Read 83380 times)

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #160 on: February 25, 2020, 05:09:32 PM »
Okay, the debates are over. Last thought. I could be wrong but it looked like Warren turned down a handshake with Bernie. And it look like he said something to her and she turned and walked away saying something looking kinda pissed. Warning, I could be misinterpreting this. But that is how it looked to me.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Rocky

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #161 on: February 25, 2020, 05:25:24 PM »
That's pretty much what I have been trying to fathom why people have latched onto stuff like this that Bernie spews.  I get why the millennials and younger seem to latch onto these ideas,
Socialism must be connected to Social Media therefore I Tweet  "Like" .   :crazy:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #162 on: February 25, 2020, 05:50:13 PM »
As for Bernie constantly throwing around "DENMARK!!" as the Socialist utopia we need to be more like, the Danes told him in 2015 to knock off the rhetoric.

Quote
The Danes apparently have grown weary of Sen. Bernie Sanders insulting their country. Denmark
is not a socialist nation, says its prime minister. It has a "market economy."

Sanders, the Democratic presidential candidate who calls himself a socialist, has used Denmark as
the example of the socialist utopia he wants to create in America. During the Democrats' first debate
last month, he said "we should look to countries like Denmark, like Sweden and Norway, and learn
from what they have accomplished for their working people."

While appearing in New Hampshire in September, Sanders said that he had "talked to a guy from
Denmark" who told him that in Denmark, "it is very hard to become very, very rich, but it's pretty hard
to be very, very poor."

"And that makes a lot of sense to me."

So because something makes sense to him, he has the right to force that system on people who don't
want it? Isn't that what he's saying?

But we digress. This is about Danes being offend[ed] by Sanders using the word "socialist" to describe
their form of government. And who can blame them, especially when the free world has had enough
of national socialists and Soviet socialists and North Korean socialists and Cuban socialists?

I reckon you can't teach an old Socialist new propaganda.    :crazy:

https://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/denmark-tells-bernie-sanders-to-stop-calling-it-socialist/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

punaperson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #163 on: February 25, 2020, 06:24:32 PM »
Biden revealed the super secret stats on "gun violence": "Over 150 MILLION people have been killed by guns since 2007." And he's referring to the United States, as he then says "since Bernie voted to exempt gun manufacturers from liability".

The (some) Dems really think an obviously cognitively impaired geezer would be good to have as president?! JFC!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1232485145732509704
« Last Edit: February 25, 2020, 06:31:07 PM by punaperson »

drck1000

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #164 on: February 25, 2020, 06:41:36 PM »
Am watching some post debate analysis and seems like it was a total shitshow. People talking over each other, lengthy ranting, and no control.

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #165 on: February 25, 2020, 06:59:32 PM »
Am watching some post debate analysis and seems like it was a total shitshow. People talking over each other, lengthy ranting, and no control.
Yuuuuuuup!!!!!!  :rofl:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #166 on: February 25, 2020, 07:14:18 PM »
Am watching some post debate analysis and seems like it was a total shitshow. People talking over each other, lengthy ranting, and no control.

Imagine the grades high school students would get if they "debated" the way these "adult" clowns act  on stage.

It should be obvious to anyone that the Dens "debate" skills are all about feelings and mudslinging -- just trying to make themselves look good by comparison.  Not the "point, counter-point, rebuttal" format a real debate is supposed to use.

All they do is give talking points, mini speeches and attacks.  Now that they are in the primaries where it counts, they have to start slinging the mud they'd been spewing at the President on each other.

These are the best and brightest of the Democrat Party.  I'm anticipating Mazie throwing her hat into the ring one of these years, too, "Woman of color!"  "I hated Trump even before he bet Obama he wouldn't produce a birth certificate!"  etc, etc, ad nauseam ....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #167 on: February 25, 2020, 11:52:38 PM »
So, if Bernie "Honeymooned in Moscow" Sanders wins the presidency (humongous "if"), I don't think we have to worry about Socialism.

He's been in Congress as a Rep and Senator now for 29 years (Rep: 1991-2007; Sen: 2007-Present).  I went to Congress.gov and did a search of his record.

He's sponsored 934 bills over his 29 years.  Of those only 3 have been signed into law, and 2 of those were to rename a Post Office.   :wacko:

To be fair, he's co-sponsored a higher number, and 221  of those became law (218 if you don't count the 3 he sponsored as the primary). 

Many of the laws co-sponsored were to authorize Congressional Gold Medals for people and organizations -- about 23.

A bigger number were resolutions, like condemning the violence at Charlottesville, Va.  He also signs onto the bills to provide annual COLA increases for Veterans, as if that's not going to be close to automatically signed by the President.  Another co-sponsored law was to let the Post Office raise funds for breast cancer awareness.

Somehow, I'd think in his decades of gov't service, he would have a better resume.

It lends credence to Hildabeast's recent comment, that nobody in Congress likes Bernie, and nobody wants to work with him.  If that's true (considering the source), I don't think Bernie has the backing to implement his Socialist ideology.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #168 on: February 26, 2020, 05:04:38 AM »
So, if Bernie "Honeymooned in Moscow" Sanders wins the presidency (humongous "if"), I don't think we have to worry about Socialism.

He's been in Congress as a Rep and Senator now for 29 years (Rep: 1991-2007; Sen: 2007-Present).  I went to Congress.gov and did a search of his record.

He's sponsored 934 bills over his 29 years.  Of those only 3 have been signed into law, and 2 of those were to rename a Post Office.   :wacko:

To be fair, he's co-sponsored a higher number, and 221  of those became law (218 if you don't count the 3 he sponsored as the primary). 

Many of the laws co-sponsored were to authorize Congressional Gold Medals for people and organizations -- about 23.

A bigger number were resolutions, like condemning the violence at Charlottesville, Va.  He also signs onto the bills to provide annual COLA increases for Veterans, as if that's not going to be close to automatically signed by the President.  Another co-sponsored law was to let the Post Office raise funds for breast cancer awareness.

Somehow, I'd think in his decades of gov't service, he would have a better resume.

It lends credence to Hildabeast's recent comment, that nobody in Congress likes Bernie, and nobody wants to work with him.  If that's true (considering the source), I don't think Bernie has the backing to implement his Socialist ideology.
The conservative news outlets all claim that he has done very little if anything during his supposed career. Now I see why they say this. Why is it those who work the least want the toughest job in the world? Rhetorical question. Not worried about you (Flapp) answering this. I just don’t want a certain person who doesn’t have good reading comprehension to answer this.  :rofl:

If Bernie does get the nomination and and actually becomes president, h can still do a lot of damage with Executive Orders. Much in the same way Obama did during his term. This is why I don’t like the use of EO’s. The original premise makes sense. And the use by previous earlier presidents was limited. But the use by more recent presidents is a bit alarming to me. I think in order to limit their use we should allow the president only like 10 or 20 EO’s per term. Even Trump has issued 140 so far. About half of Obama and much less than others. A lot of the Trump EO’s have been used to undo previous administrations EO’s. Especially in the regulation area. But if you look at some of the EO’s issued by Trump they were used to improve people’s lives rather than restrict or punish businesses or sectors or opponents. I personally just don’t care for this power due to the way Obama used his. Some of his were illegal and have been shot down in the courts. His AG should have discouraged him from issuing some of these.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

Inspector

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #169 on: February 26, 2020, 05:14:47 AM »
Interesting note that media is basically trying to brace up support for Biden again. Apparently, he is still the DNC’s #1 candidate. If he wins SC he might still just get the super delegate support that I predicted earlier. But if he has another poor showing I don’t know what the DNC is going to do? I’m not sure what they still see in him, tho, He is not all with us I think. To me he is either showing signs of extreme stress or more likely he is losing his faculties. It’s sad. He should have stayed in retirement.

I really can’t see them supporting Bernie. They know if they nominate Bernie, he will lose. And I think Bernie has the best chance of winning against Trump than Biden does.

Overall the debate last night was a free for all with no moderator really stepping in when things got out of hand. There will be some great video clips coming out this morning.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

RSN172

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #170 on: February 26, 2020, 06:04:01 AM »
Lot of criticism on social media about the lack of control by King and ODonnell. 
If I was the moderator, I would demand that 1) I have a switch to cut off anyone's mike. 
2) Tell the nominees that if they keep talking after I tell them your time is up, they will be escorted off the stage after the first warning.

Not sure who the eventual nominee will be, but heard one political analyst say yesterday that 65% of voters think that Trump will be re-elected.
Happily living in Puna

oldfart

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #171 on: February 26, 2020, 08:40:34 AM »
Lot of criticism on social media about the lack of control by King and ODonnell. 
If I was the moderator, I would demand that 1) I have a switch to cut off anyone's mike. 
2) Tell the nominees that if they keep talking after I tell them your time is up, they will be escorted off the stage after the first warning.

Not sure who the eventual nominee will be, but heard one political analyst say yesterday that 65% of voters think that Trump will be re-elected.
...
Gayle King in a tight purple dress made her look like Barney the dinosaur.

Bloomberg dropped the Russia bomb on Bernie within the first 2 minutes.

When it was all over, everybody was shaking hands with each other, except Biden who walked away.
What, Me Worry?

hvybarrels

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #172 on: February 26, 2020, 10:08:13 AM »
It lends credence to Hildabeast's recent comment, that nobody in Congress likes Bernie, and nobody wants to work with him.  If that's true (considering the source), I don't think Bernie has the backing to implement his Socialist ideology.

To be fair it is not easy to push through an agenda being an outsider, and he was probably hired to push back against the establishment rather than lead it in a new direction.

I agree that there is no need to worry about a radical agenda and his accomplishments will be limited by the uncooperativeness of the deep state, at least until the next midterm.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

RSN172

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #173 on: February 26, 2020, 10:20:38 AM »
You  can bet on who will win the next election.  Las Vegas odds favor Trump by 61.5%.
Happily living in Puna

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #174 on: February 26, 2020, 01:31:17 PM »
To be fair it is not easy to push through an agenda being an outsider, and he was probably hired to push back against the establishment rather than lead it in a new direction.

I agree that there is no need to worry about a radical agenda and his accomplishments will be limited by the uncooperativeness of the deep state, at least until the next midterm.

If Bernie is still an outsider after 29 years in the US Congress, then it speaks volumes about his inability to get anything done if he becomes President. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #175 on: February 26, 2020, 01:35:11 PM »
Interesting note that media is basically trying to brace up support for Biden again. Apparently, he is still the DNC’s #1 candidate. If he wins SC he might still just get the super delegate support that I predicted earlier. But if he has another poor showing I don’t know what the DNC is going to do? I’m not sure what they still see in him, tho, He is not all with us I think. To me he is either showing signs of extreme stress or more likely he is losing his faculties. It’s sad. He should have stayed in retirement.

I really can’t see them supporting Bernie. They know if they nominate Bernie, he will lose. And I think Bernie has the best chance of winning against Trump than Biden does.

Overall the debate last night was a free for all with no moderator really stepping in when things got out of hand. There will be some great video clips coming out this morning.

The problem with him winning in SC is it'll be for the Senate, not the Presidency. 

I'd call that a forfeit.   :rofl:

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #176 on: February 26, 2020, 02:31:44 PM »
If Bernie is still an outsider after 29 years in the US Congress, then it speaks volumes about his inability to get anything done if he becomes President.

I agree
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #177 on: February 26, 2020, 07:16:08 PM »
Apparently. Bernie is pissing off people on both sides -- Republican and Democrat -- with his comments about Cuba.

The GOP gave a press conference today to announce a resolution condemning Sander's comments and lies.

A Socialist who can't play well with others?  Whodathunkit?

Oh, wait!  Wasn't Bernie thrown out of a commune in the 60s or 70s for not working?   :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Florida Republican introduces resolution condemning Sanders' Castro remarks
Quote
Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart (R-Fla.) introduced a resolution Wednesday condemning Democratic presidential
front-runner Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) for his positive remarks about Cuba under the late dictator Fidel
Castro.

Sanders this week said it would be "unfair to simply say everything" under Castro was bad, pointing to the
high literacy rate when the Cuban leader was in power. The comments, which Sanders later doubled down
on, were criticized by lawmakers on both sides of the aisle.

Diaz-Balart — a relative of Castro's and a staunch critic of Cuban leadership — blasted Sanders’s remarks
Wednesday.

“I remind the senator and the progressive movement that the Castro regime is a threat, not only by the way
to the national security of the United States, but also to all of the democracies in this hemisphere. This
regime has been on the list of state sponsors of terrorism for many years for its support of other terrorist
states and organized terrorist groups,” he told reporters at a press conference.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/484834-florida-republican-introduces-resolution-condemning-sanderss-castro-remarks
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #178 on: February 26, 2020, 07:22:51 PM »
Bernie Sanders Was Asked to Leave
Hippie Commune for Shirking, Book Claims


Quote
Bernie Sanders was asked to leave a hippie commune in 1971 for "sitting around and talking"
about politics instead of working, according to a forthcoming book.

We Are As Gods by Kate Daloz, scheduled for release April 26, chronicles the rise and fall of
the Myrtle Hill Farm in northeast Vermont. Daloz, a Brooklyn writer, was in a special position to
write a history of Myrtle Hill: she was raised near the commune in a geodesic dome residence
with an outhouse called the Richard M. Nixon Memorial Hall. Her parents were close acquaintances
of the commune residents, who offered them tips about wilderness living.

In the summer of 1971, Myrtle Hill received a visitor: Bernie Sanders, age 30, at the cusp of his
political career with the socialist Liberty Union Party.

Sanders came to the farm while researching an article on natural childbirth for the Liberty Union’s
party organ, Movement. Interest in alternative medicine was strong among members of the counterculture
as part of their wider suspicion of modern science, which was associated with the sterility of hospitals
and the destruction of war. "Many elements of Western medicine came under suspicion during this period,
but none more so than modern obstetrics," Deloz writes.
   :
   :
When not reporting on the miracle of life, Sanders spent his time at Myrtle Hill in "endless political discussion,"
according to Deloz.

Sanders’ idle chatter did not endear him with some of the commune’s residents, who did the backbreaking
labor of running the place. Daloz writes that one resident, Craig, "resented feeling like he had to pull others
out of Bernie’s orbit if any work was going to get accomplished that day."

https://freebeacon.com/politics/bernie-sanders-asked-leave-hippie-commune/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Predictions: Who Will Be The Democrat Nominee?
« Reply #179 on: February 27, 2020, 09:01:14 AM »
Lot of criticism on social media about the lack of control by King and ODonnell. 
If I was the moderator, I would demand that 1) I have a switch to cut off anyone's mike. 
2) Tell the nominees that if they keep talking after I tell them your time is up, they will be escorted off the stage after the first warning.
Not sure who the eventual nominee will be, but heard one political analyst say yesterday that 65% of voters think that Trump will be re-elected.
Yes, cutting off the mike after your 75 seconds or whatever is a good idea.  :thumbsup:

    Another option is to give each candidate a certain total amount of speaking time, i.e.15 minutes.
You could talk in length about something, but it would decrease the amount of time to talk or rebut anything else.
You  interrupt or talk over someone else's allotted time, it also cuts into your time allotment.
Using the above, yesterdays debate would have been over in about 17 minutes.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt