not a tourist
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/arriving-passenger-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19-showed-no-symptoms/

so no ankle bracelet, hotel staff snitching (maybe neighbors?)

not a tourist
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/arriving-passenger-who-tested-positive-for-covid-19-showed-no-symptoms/

so no ankle bracelet, hotel staff snitching (maybe neighbors?)

So he showed no symptoms and said he felt fine.  Yet he had a 101 fever...I call BS.

#imnotahightechwabbit

I mean I'm no conspiracy theorist, but reports of whole provinces (not sure if that's the correct term) were locked down.  And some areas on outskirts of Wuhan were pretty rural and were essentially cut off from neighbors.  Some of those rural areas maybe not where cell phone usage ownership is as common as what we are used to, as well as starvation a pretty big concern in normal times.

Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent.  So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan.  In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones.  Especially in a high tech country like China. 

So he showed no symptoms and said he felt fine.  Yet he had a 101 fever...I call BS.

Point is that a lot of the public's perception that this virus was brought largely by tourists is not accurate. All the tourist "hating", the convoys were all misdirected. Think about it - was is the average length of stay of a tourist versus a returning resident?

Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent.  So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan.  In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones.  Especially in a high tech country like China.

Yeah, I remember hearing some of that.  I was more referring to the folks in the boonies that I remember hearing stories of them being totally cut off by the next major metro area over.  NPR covered one where the access to that area was a bridge over the river and the metro area locked it down, like in the movie I am Legend.  The concern was that those people had no access to healthcare and no voice to report how things went.  The theory was hundreds died due to starvation and numbers weren't reported.  I'm not saying that that's the truth, but I would not be surprised at all if it came out that's what happened.  Though it was in line with my concern more with the reaction to the virus than the virus itself. 

Point is that a lot of the public's perception that this virus was brought largely by tourists is not accurate. All the tourist "hating", the convoys were all misdirected. Think about it - was is the average length of stay of a tourist versus a returning resident?

I felt bad for that one guy on Molokai that returned from Vegas and ended testing positive and resulted in the local stores closing. 

Point is that a lot of the public's perception that this virus was brought largely by tourists is not accurate. All the tourist "hating", the convoys were all misdirected. Think about it - was is the average length of stay of a tourist versus a returning resident?

100% accurate. Almost all the CV cases from Jan-March were from residents traveling.  IDK how many were work related, but I'm gonna assume most work related travel was cancelled unless they're essential.  So majority were from Vacation, even 1 of our senators.  He went to Vegas end of feb for his reunion.  Got CV.  I have at least 10 friends on FB who posted pics of them on vacation from jan-March.  And another 3 who were on vacation international.  Luckily, none came down with CV because their pics on their pages continued without interruption.  And during those early months, lots of CV was not known, so cancelling vacation would be the best option.

Now we understand more about CV and traveling isn't that bad, as long as you avoid the high CV areas like NY and it's surrounding states.  WA has 200 active CV cases and OR has 800.

I felt bad for that one guy on Molokai that returned from Vegas and ended testing positive and resulted in the local stores closing.

Yet no one is mad at him for going on vacation.  But they will show up at the airport with signs saying tourist go home.  This guy shut down the only market in the area.

Yeah, I remember hearing some of that.  I was more referring to the folks in the boonies that I remember hearing stories of them being totally cut off by the next major metro area over.  NPR covered one where the access to that area was a bridge over the river and the metro area locked it down, like in the movie I am Legend.  The concern was that those people had no access to healthcare and no voice to report how things went.  The theory was hundreds died due to starvation and numbers weren't reported.  I'm not saying that that's the truth, but I would not be surprised at all if it came out that's what happened.  Though it was in line with my concern more with the reaction to the virus than the virus itself.

I was wondering what happened to those who I heard the doors to their apartments were welded shut. Did they ever come back and grind off the welds? Crazy stuff.

Yet no one is mad at him for going on vacation.  But they will show up at the airport with signs saying tourist go home.  This guy shut down the only market in the area.

While I don't know for sure either way, I would assume that he definitely caught flak for it, if not worse.  My dad's family is from Molokai and I still have some family that live there.  I haven't heard from them on this issue, but I would be very surprised if he didn't catch $hit for his actions and decisions. 

I was wondering what happened to those who I heard the doors to their apartments were welded shut. Did they ever come back and grind off the welds? Crazy stuff.

Jump out the window. . . 

I was wondering what happened to those who I heard the doors to their apartments were welded shut. Did they ever come back and grind off the welds? Crazy stuff.

From the vids that I saw, it seems like the occupants welded the doors or bars over the doors to keep the government out.  Because the vids I saw were of police/health care people waiting next to the guy trying to saw the bars.

Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent.  So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan.  In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones.  Especially in a high tech country like China.

they did not drop by a huge percent
google

Cell phone subscriptions dropped by a huge percent.  So those who already had a plan, didn't pay or renew it for some odd reason...1 could say that maybe they're weren't making $, so they had to stop their cell plan.  In this day and age, people find ways to keep their phones.  Especially in a high tech country like China.

I'm pretty sure under Chinese law most
everyone has to own a cell phone, if they
live in a city.

I'm pretty sure under Chinese law most
everyone has to own a cell phone, if they
live in a city.

They are called "XI Jinping-phone".  Chinese equivalent of Obamaphone.  Mandatory to use your communist allowance to buy Huawei phone. 

[mostly sarcasm] 

they did not drop by a huge percent
google

It's "uge", instead of huge. . . 

I don't like LT Gov Green and he's part of the problem that people are paranoid here, but even he thinks everything should've been opened up by now.

Today's DOH update on Coronavirus in Hawaii

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 14, 2020
Total cases (new): 637 (0)
Hawai’i County: 75 (0)
Honolulu County: 414 (0)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 117 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 81 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 564 (1)
There have been 637 cases of COVID-19 identified in Hawaii. Of those cases, 13% have required hospitalization, and 576 (90%) were residents.
As of May 13 the number of people who have been tested is 39,767. There currently are 73 active cases in the State that we are aware of.
Mayor Caldwell announced the rules included in a new emergency order that extends through June 30, and incorporates previous requirements for wearing a face mask in public and maintaining social distancing guidelines. The new order allows public and private outdoors sports fields and courts on Oahu to reopen for one-on-one activities in which it is possible to maintain 6 feet of physical distance between each other at all time. Some examples of permitted activities include singles tennis and pickleball, yoga, and tai chi. An example of an excluded activity would be one-on-one or team basketball.
The order also allows drive-in religious services starting Friday as long as worshippers remain in their vehicles and park at least 6 feet from each other or keep their windows up. Retail shops and malls open tomorrow.

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 13, 2020
Total cases (new): 638 (3)
Hawai’i County: 75 (0)
Honolulu County: 414 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 117 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 11 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 81 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 563 (0)
0-19: 32 (2) - none were hospitalized (0 new)
20-39: 208 (0) - 7 were hospitalized (0 new)
40-59: 197 (1) - 23 were hospitalized (0 new)
60+: 120 (0) - 51 were hospitalized (0 new)
new cases are on Oahu and includes an adult and 2 children from a cluster being found at Kalihi Valley Homes Housing Complex.
As of May 12 the number of people who have been tested is 38,881. There currently are 75 active cases in the State that we are aware of.

The governmental administration is trying to figure a safe way to control visitors for now. A few days ago, while checking temperatures for people getting on and off the planes, they discovered a man from Arkansas that had been in Hawaii and was going to fly home to Arkansas had an elevated temperature. He was prevented from traveling back until he was cleared. Many hotels are now issuing single use room keys to visitors who are supposed to be doing 14 days of quarantine. If they leave the room for any reason, they need to check in with the hotel front desk to be issued a citation and a new key. Not all hotels are participating in this, but are using other methods to help maintain quarantine. The governor also stated that rental cars are not available to visitors until they have finished quarantine. This just shows how much easier it would be to test people before they got on the plane to come here. We are waiting for the appropriate test to do this. Then everyone could move about safely without worry.

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 11, 2020
Total cases (new): 634 (2)
Hawai’i County: 75 (0)
Honolulu County: 410 (2)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 117 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 11 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 81 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 561 (0)
We have 0 new deaths to report - and 2 new cases (see table). The new cases are on Oahu and are in the 0-19 age range.  For 23 consecutive days, fewer than six new cases of the novel coronavirus have been reported statewide.
As of May 10 the number of people who have been tested is 38,042. There currently are 73 active cases in the State that we are aware of.
Hawaii’s hospital bed capacity is currently sufficient to handle the demand should we have a surge.
The state has a plan to increase contact tracing “should the number of cases grow to 1,000 per day,” according to the Governor.  Laboratories across the islands are capable of conducting as many as 3,000 diagnostic tests per day, but currently process 400 to 500 specimens each day based on doctor referrals.

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on May 5, 2020
Total cases (new): 625 (4)
Hawai’i County: 74 (0)
Honolulu County: 404 (4)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 116 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 73 (0)
Hawaii deaths: 17 (0)
Recovered: 551 (3)
and 4 new cases, 2 in the 20-39 range and 2 in the 40-59 range.  One of the new cases was on the Big Island and three were on Oahu .
The one person on Kauai that was hospitalized has now recovered and has been released.
As of May 4 the number of people who have been tested is 35,918. There currently are 74 active cases in the State that we are aware of.
Today Governor Ige announced changes to take place starting Thursday, May 7.

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 22, 2020
Total cases (new): 592 (6)
Hawai’i County: 67 (3)
Honolulu County: 388 (3)
Kaua’i County: 21 (0)
Maui County: 110 (0)
Pending: 0 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 6 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 63 (7)
Hawaii deaths: 12 (0)
Recovered: 444 (7)

Cumulative totals as of 12:00pm on April 7, 2020
Total cases (new): 410 (23)
Hawai’i County: 23 (0)
Honolulu County: 312 (20)
Kaua’i County: 18 (1)
Maui County: 48 (4)
Pending: 7 (0)
HI residents diagnosed outside of HI: 2 (0)
Required Hospitalization: 42 (16)
Hawaii deaths: 5(0) Recovered: 113 (24)
The state has conducted 15,149 COVID-19 tests to date

    12:00 noon on March 25, 2020
    Total  (New) 95  (6)  (5 Hawai‘i residents, 1 visitor)
    Honolulu (4 new cases, total of 68)
    Hawai‘i (0 new cases, total of 5)
    Maui (1 new case, total of 13)
    Kaua‘i (1 new case, total of 5)
    Hospitalized (1 current + 3 discharged)
    Deaths - 0
    Risk Factors (2 new travel related cases, 59 total)
    95 total cases since 2/28/20
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Trump mentions he like other docs take HCQ for prevention. Wouldnt be surprised if someone is wondering why he isnt sick yet after sending in a trojan horse.

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