When u tell law makers and HPD major neilson that according to AG/FBI stats in hawaii, there was only 1 rifle death in 2018, 1 in 2017, and 2 in 2016, but yet he says a mag limit is necessary to save the lives of people. I call that moronic.

And for each death, there was no info on what type of magazine was used.

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Forget it.  EEF has nothing intelligent to add to the topic at hand.  Instead, he wants to correct your verbiage, as if the phrases you chose are more important than the moronic -- excuse me, ineffective and liberty-restricting -- laws being pushed through the legislature in spite of overwhelming opposition.

I don't think its fair to call them morons, at least not all of them. Some misinformed or not informed and others informed but just have a different opinion derived from the facts but not morons.

How can you be informed on these topics and come to a different conclusion? Specifically speaking about the 2A. I mean the facts are the facts right?

When u tell law makers and HPD major neilson that according to AG/FBI stats in hawaii, there was only 1 rifle death in 2018, 1 in 2017, and 2 in 2016, but yet he says a mag limit is necessary to save the lives of people. I call that moronic.

And for each death, there was no info on what type of magazine was used.

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No, I call them all despotic. They are very much sinister, conniving, manipulating and power hungry. But not moronic.

I would call it short sighted. They want to grab as much power as they can to make their job easier, but in the long run it just makes the society more dangerous as the root causes of desperation are ignored in favor of jackboot solutions, which forces even more people to turn to criminality to survive. When cops are considered fellow citizens then they can operate safely but that changes dramatically as the public begins to see them as an occupying force.

How can you be informed on these topics and come to a different conclusion? Specifically speaking about the 2A. I mean the facts are the facts right?

Their "facts" are that 2A does not apply to citizens. They have twisted verbiage, definitions, and intent to change the 2nd Amendment from "rules/laws that government is prohibited from enacting", into "government has the right to arms and citizens do not".

When u tell law makers and HPD major neilson that according to AG/FBI stats in hawaii, there was only 1 rifle death in 2018, 1 in 2017, and 2 in 2016, but yet he says a mag limit is necessary to save the lives of people. I call that moronic.

And for each death, there was no info on what type of magazine was used.

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I was referring to people who are against guns in general. There are some morons in the anti gun crowd.