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Charles Nichols

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #40 on: September 25, 2020, 03:28:35 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on September 25, 2020, 03:06:19 PM
https://www.kitv.com/story/42683650/attorney-argues-hawaii-law-is-a-ban-on-carrying-guns

“Hawaii’s carry law is the most restrictive in the country,” Beck told The Associated Press. “Hawaii is the only place in the country where it’s effectively impossible to get a permit.”

Certainly true in regards to "carry" permits but the general public cannot obtain a handgun Open Carry permit in California counties with a population of 200,000 or more people because they are prohibited by law.  There is a lawsuit in the district court that was filed last year that alleges that no handgun Open Carry licenses are granted in those counties and there never has been.

Although licensing is secondary in my California Open Carry lawsuit, now on appeal, I did ask for both an application and a handgun Open Carry license but was denied both.  Not because I don't have "good cause" or for any other reason than sheriffs and police chiefs are prohibited by law from issuing them to people in counties of 200,000 or more people.
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Charles Nichols

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #41 on: September 27, 2020, 07:33:58 PM »
I wrote a couple of articles on the Young v. Hawaii en banc oral argument that dive deeper than the shallow coverage it has been given to date.

Young v. Hawaii Handgun Open Carry – Post-Game Analysis - https://newsblaze.com/business/legal/young-v-hawaii-handgun-open-carry-post-game-analysis_168087/
Hawaii Stabbed California in the Back in Handgun Open Carry Lawsuit - https://newsblaze.com/business/legal/hawaii-stabs-california-in-the-back-in-handgun-open-carry-lawsuit_168131/
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macsak

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #42 on: September 27, 2020, 08:45:56 PM »
Quote from: Charles Nichols on September 27, 2020, 07:33:58 PM
I wrote a couple of articles on the Young v. Hawaii en banc oral argument that dive deeper than the shallow coverage it has been given to date.

Young v. Hawaii Handgun Open Carry – Post-Game Analysis - https://newsblaze.com/business/legal/young-v-hawaii-handgun-open-carry-post-game-analysis_168087/
Hawaii Stabbed California in the Back in Handgun Open Carry Lawsuit - https://newsblaze.com/business/legal/hawaii-stabs-california-in-the-back-in-handgun-open-carry-lawsuit_168131/

clickbait...
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Charles Nichols

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #43 on: September 27, 2020, 10:08:21 PM »
Quote from: macsak on September 27, 2020, 08:45:56 PM
clickbait...

And yet the links to other articles posted here aren't clickbait?

Are you Christopher Baker by chance?
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #44 on: September 27, 2020, 11:29:14 PM »
Quote from: Charles Nichols on September 27, 2020, 10:08:21 PM
And yet the links to other articles posted here aren't clickbait?

The,"Two wrongs make a right" argument. 

I can tell you went to law school.   :thumbsup:   :shaka:
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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macsak

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #45 on: September 28, 2020, 07:20:09 AM »
Quote from: Charles Nichols on September 27, 2020, 10:08:21 PM
And yet the links to other articles posted here aren't clickbait?

Are you Christopher Baker by chance?

no, they aren't

would it make any difference if I was?
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Charles Nichols

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #46 on: September 28, 2020, 09:50:05 AM »
Quote from: macsak on September 28, 2020, 07:20:09 AM
no, they aren't

would it make any difference if I was?

I found out who you are.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #47 on: September 28, 2020, 10:32:07 AM »
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #48 on: September 28, 2020, 12:16:34 PM »
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changemyoil66

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #49 on: September 28, 2020, 12:40:00 PM »
Quote from: macsak on September 28, 2020, 12:16:34 PM
it's not a secret

I don't ask and you don't tell.
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macsak

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #50 on: September 28, 2020, 01:01:05 PM »
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hvybarrels

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2020, 10:58:32 AM »
Quote from: macsak on September 28, 2020, 12:16:34 PM
it's not a secret

It would be kind of funny if someone pulled off your mask like a scoobydoo villain to reveal Chris Baker underneath. Da da DAAAAAA!
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Bota-CS1

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2020, 11:31:45 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on September 28, 2020, 12:40:00 PM
I don't ask and you don't tell.

It's like he's stuck in a closet or something....

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No one is coming, it’s up to us.

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zippz

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2020, 12:03:59 PM »
Nichols summary of the case looks good and there's several ways this could go.  Half of me wants to win it now, the other half wants to take the chance and win it in SCOTUS.

 I recognize that Nichols has some faults and it's difficult to want to support him, but he has made major ontributions to the effort in filing his own lawsuit just as Young did and teaching others the intricacies of what's going on.
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macsak

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2020, 12:32:52 PM »
Quote from: hvybarrels on September 29, 2020, 10:58:32 AM
It would be kind of funny if someone pulled off your mask like a scoobydoo villain to reveal Chris Baker underneath. Da da DAAAAAA!

I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!
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changemyoil66

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2020, 08:42:12 AM »
Quote from: zippz on September 29, 2020, 12:03:59 PM
Nichols summary of the case looks good and there's several ways this could go.  Half of me wants to win it now, the other half wants to take the chance and win it in SCOTUS.

 I recognize that Nichols has some faults and it's difficult to want to support him, but he has made major ontributions to the effort in filing his own lawsuit just as Young did and teaching others the intricacies of what's going on.

I think even if Young wins, HI will take it to SCOTUS.  Pretty sure if we win, states like NY will be telling HI to take 1 for the team and don't pursue any further.
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punaperson

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2020, 10:35:29 AM »
Quote from: changemyoil66 on September 30, 2020, 08:42:12 AM
I think even if Young wins, HI will take it to SCOTUS.  Pretty sure if we win, states like NY will be telling HI to take 1 for the team and don't pursue any further.
Especially if by that time Trump will have replaced Breyer and maybe even the obese latina diabetic.
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6716J

Re: Young v. Hawaii en banc
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2020, 01:40:11 PM »
Quote from: macsak on September 29, 2020, 12:32:52 PM
I would've gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!

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