TBH if he accomplishes nothing for the next 4 years I will be happy.  A neutral nothing is better than a negative.  I would rather he do positives for the things I believe for but if he just plain does nothing, it does no harm or good.

You're ridiculous.

I said, name ONE THING he's accomplished in 47 years.

You deflected and obfuscated.

Answer the fucking question.

Apparently you believe we have no problems in the US a President in the next 4 years needs to address.

You're  so  special.     

Is there proof that Biden helped his kid do said things?  If not the time when they occurred or how are not applicable to Biden as a person.   I work  60+ hrs a week I cant research every single thing.  I am not burying my head in the sand, but I need priorities.  I "lecture" people based on opinions and facts I do know.  Not ones i don't.

If I was retired like many people here I can spend all day on the internet researched and referencing.

Biden doesn't have to actively help his son for there to be a conflict of interest.

Biden, by virtue of his office, is subject to the same potential blackmail and coercion from foreign countries the Leftists are saying Trump is by virtue of whatever they think "someone has on him."  They say that all the time, including Pelosi.

If Hunter is in bed with known criminal organizations in foreign countries, possibly helping them launder money and gain access to the administration through his father's position, how does that not become a concern for Hunter's father?

You're ridiculous.

I said, name ONE THING he's accomplished in 47 years.

You deflected and obfuscated.

Answer the fucking question.

Apparently you believe we have no problems in the US a President in the next 4 years needs to address.

You're  so  special.     

I know he helped save the auto industry with a bailout during the recession.

I know he helped save the auto industry with a bailout during the recession.

No, he bailed out the unions, big banks and other companies that supported his election campaign.

GM just happens be part of one of the biggest unions in the US.  Ford didn't take any stimulus money, and they were also "saved" -- just not using taxpayer money.

it doesn't take an economist to use someone else's money to bail out companies that were in that situation caused in part by their own poor business decisions.

Plenty of more deserving people/companies needed bailouts, but Biden didn't go to bat for them, did he?

Biden is part of the political machine that has driven the working class into the ground over the past 40 years. If you are a union boss or a middle manager or some sort of government employee then chances are you were doing fine, so go ahead and vote for the status quo if that makes you feel better. But when you come out with all this nitpicky stuff about how Trump is not perfect then do not expect anyone to listen or feel sympathy. This is about survival, and Trump has been a much better friend to the working class than any of his predecessors going back decades. It does not matter what the media says, because most of them are shameless liars.

Biden doesn't have to actively help his son for there to be a conflict of interest.

Biden, by virtue of his office, is subject to the same potential blackmail and coercion from foreign countries the Leftists are saying Trump is by virtue of whatever they think "someone has on him."  They say that all the time, including Pelosi.

If Hunter is in bed with known criminal organizations in foreign countries, possibly helping them launder money and gain access to the administration through his father's position, how does that not become a concern for Hunter's father?

He was asleep on the day they taught ethics. . .

Biden is part of the political machine that has driven the working class into the ground over the past 40 years. If you are a union boss or a middle manager or some sort of government employee then chances are you were doing fine, so go ahead and vote for the status quo if that makes you feel better. But when you come out with all this nitpicky stuff about how Trump is not perfect then do not expect anyone to listen or feel sympathy. This is about survival, and Trump has been a much better friend to the working class than any of his predecessors going back decades. It does not matter what the media says, because most of them are shameless liars.

I am a gooberment employee so guess I can vote in peace 

No, he bailed out the unions, big banks and other companies that supported his election campaign.

GM just happens be part of one of the biggest unions in the US.  Ford didn't take any stimulus money, and they were also "saved" -- just not using taxpayer money.

it doesn't take an economist to use someone else's money to bail out companies that were in that situation caused in part by their own poor business decisions.

Plenty of more deserving people/companies needed bailouts, but Biden didn't go to bat for them, did he?

Are you saying we should of let GM fall?  And other banks?

Why not let people fall in covid?  Airlines should of been ready for the pandemic right?

BHR Partners, which Hunter co-founded with Devon Archer, a former Abercromie & Fitch model, and state-owned companies in China, including the Bank of China. Hunter occupied an unpaid position on the company’s board, and according to The New Yorker, did not take equity in the company until after his father left office.
For the "china" controversy

Peters and Wyden released their report, stating that “every witness interviewed for this investigation testified that Vice President Biden did not alter United States foreign policy to benefit his son Hunter Biden, and that Hunter Biden’s presence on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma had no affect on U.S. foreign policy.”
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/200923_FullReport_PetersHSGACWydenFinance.pdf
 

Looks like nothing illegal was done,  might be a little bit in the gray zone, but no more than trump and his children have done. 

I say leave the kids out of it.  Its trump vs biden. 

Are you saying we should of let GM fall?  And other banks?

Why not let people fall in covid?  Airlines should of been ready for the pandemic right?

Yes.

Obama let plenty of big companies fail back then. 

To ask that question, you have to assume that GM could not have filed for bankruptcy protection and come out of the recession just fine.  Wouldn't be the first time for them.  So, how do you even know GM would have gone under?  Any proof?

Obama's stimulus spending is a major reason the Recession took so long to recover.  We never really recovered completely until Trump took office.  That's when he fixed two of the other reasons the recovery was so slow:  high taxes and massive government regulations.

BHR Partners, which Hunter co-founded with Devon Archer, a former Abercromie & Fitch model, and state-owned companies in China, including the Bank of China. Hunter occupied an unpaid position on the company’s board, and according to The New Yorker, did not take equity in the company until after his father left office.
For the "china" controversy

Peters and Wyden released their report, stating that “every witness interviewed for this investigation testified that Vice President Biden did not alter United States foreign policy to benefit his son Hunter Biden, and that Hunter Biden’s presence on the board of the Ukrainian gas company Burisma had no affect on U.S. foreign policy.”
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/200923_FullReport_PetersHSGACWydenFinance.pdf
 

Looks like nothing illegal was done,  might be a little bit in the gray zone, but no more than trump and his children have done. 

I say leave the kids out of it.  Its trump vs biden.

Bullshit.

We investigated Trump AND HIS FAMILY for 4 years with less "evidence".  The Hunter Biden mess deserves at least some amount of actual investigation. 

There have been accusations he was laundering money for the companies he worked with.  While it might not be illegal to start a company and invest money from other companies, it is illegal if the source of that money was a criminal enterprise.

Simply saying his actions in a vacuum apart from all other parties makes what he did legal is dishonest and stupid.

Yes.

Obama let plenty of big companies fail back then. 

To ask that question, you have to assume that GM could not have filed for bankruptcy protection and come out of the recession just fine.  Wouldn't be the first time for them.  So, how do you even know GM would have gone under?  Any proof?

Obama's stimulus spending is a major reason the Recession took so long to recover.  We never really recovered completely until Trump took office.  That's when he fixed two of the other reasons the recovery was so slow:  high taxes and massive government regulations.

I give up clearly we live in a different world.  Stimulus spending saved us.  Trump did "stimulus" spending for covid.  Why is it bad if Obama did it and good if Trump does it? You cant let a bunch of shit fail and expect the world to keep working properly. 

Bullshit.

We investigated Trump AND HIS FAMILY for 4 years with less "evidence".  The Hunter Biden mess deserves at least some amount of actual investigation. 

There have been accusations he was laundering money for the companies he worked with.  While it might not be illegal to start a company and invest money from other companies, it is illegal if the source of that money was a criminal enterprise.

Simply saying his actions in a vacuum apart from all other parties makes what he did legal is dishonest and stupid.

Investigate then.  Not saying don't, I would support any fair and non bias investigations.  BUT HUNTER IS NOT BIDEN.  THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON. I repeat,  Hunter could be a serial murderer for all I care about.  It doesnt change who his father is. 

You're ridiculous.
...
You deflected and obfuscated.

Answer the fucking question.
...

Pot. Stop calling Kettle. 

  BUT HUNTER IS NOT BIDEN.  THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON. I repeat,  Hunter could be a serial murderer for all I care about.  It doesnt change who his father is. 

How much more evidence do you need regarding Hunter and his payout ?
What were his qualifications for the position?
Would you care if he was pardoned for those murders?
I’m not saying Trump isn’t paying off his whole family with his Presidency but this is not a road to go down.
IMO.

I agree with the "Hunter is not Joe Biden".

Joe Biden lied.
Joe Biden plagiarized.
Joe Biden did dumb things and he's been doing dumb things in office for 40 years...or was it 180?

SNIP

How much more evidence do you need regarding Hunter and his payout ?
What were his qualifications for the position?
Would you care if he was pardoned for those murders?
I’m not saying Trump isn’t paying off his whole family with his Presidency but this is not a road to go down.
IMO.

Evidence?  Don't need no stinking evidence. . .

Remember, he's an agnostic.  You have to prove to him with something tangible. . .

Evidence?  Don't need no stinking evidence. . .

Remember, he's an agnostic.  You have to prove to him with something tangible. . .

Unless he's against whatever it is, like ACB and the Supreme Court nomination.  No evidence she'll be an activist is evidence she's not fit.

I agree with the "Hunter is not Joe Biden".

Joe Biden lied.
Joe Biden plagiarized.
Joe Biden did dumb things and he's been doing dumb things in office for 40 years...or was it 180?

SNIP

But those aren't crimes. . . wait . . .

But you can't prove he said those things. . . wait . . .

Don't really understand how anyone can defend Biden.  AT ALL.  Well, besides that "he not Drumpf".  That's about the level of response I typically get. 

Unless he's against whatever it is, like ACB and the Supreme Court nomination.  No evidence she'll be an activist is evidence she's not fit.

"Just shut up man"

In my small microcosm of life experiences, I've worked with some people like Trump. A person with an ego, who may come off as boastful and perhaps too raw - but they got the job done. They were driven.
I've also worked with some people like Joe Biden. A person with an ego, who may come off as boastful and too dumb to get anything done.