Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227317 times)

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #560 on: February 16, 2021, 06:55:18 PM »
Why don't you have a talk with your Mom and ask her when she was carrying you?

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I believe she is pro choice last time I talked about it with her she was.

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #561 on: February 16, 2021, 06:55:45 PM »
This simply doesn't work like that. Why does your opinion get to be default?  By definition you put the burden of your beliefs on others.  Lets say Christens and Muslims believe sex before marriage is bad.  Can they ban everyone from having sex before marriage?  No, they can follow their own customs and don't force legality, morality or ethics upon others.

what about the Karens?

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #562 on: February 16, 2021, 07:16:25 PM »
I believe she is pro choice last time I talked about it with her she was.

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aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #563 on: February 16, 2021, 07:35:11 PM »
it hasn't been proven in a court of law that omnigrub is sentient...
Imagine a thread without AOG!

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #564 on: February 16, 2021, 08:53:17 PM »
This simply doesn't work like that. Why does your opinion get to be default?  By definition you put the burden of your beliefs on others.  Lets say Christians and Muslims believe sex before marriage is bad.  Can they ban everyone from having sex before marriage?  No, they can follow their own customs and don't force legality, morality or ethics upon others.

My POSITION is the default when the choice is between potential murder (you) and granting an unborn living being the RIGHT to life (me).
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #565 on: February 17, 2021, 04:25:56 PM »
a troll thread made by a douche troll
Deeds Not Words

eyeeatingfish

Re: Abortion
« Reply #566 on: February 17, 2021, 08:08:18 PM »
a troll thread made by a douche troll

Omni wants to talk abortion and start a thread dedicated to it then I can't really fault him for that. Don't want to talk about abortion then don't click on the thread.

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #567 on: February 21, 2021, 08:45:11 AM »
If you don't like abortion.  Support sex-ed and prevention.  Abstinence teaching is stupid...

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/11/30/colorado-teen-pregnancy-abortion-rates-drop-free-low-cost-iud/

robtmc

Re: Abortion
« Reply #568 on: February 21, 2021, 11:42:58 AM »
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ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #569 on: February 21, 2021, 11:50:06 AM »
Omni wants to talk abortion and start a thread dedicated to it then I can't really fault him for that. Don't want to talk about abortion then don't click on the thread.

City probably wouldn't have an issue if that company was legal.  Don't see the point of this thread.   As for drugs see nothing wrong with that, looks to be regulated.

you two are one and the same
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #570 on: February 21, 2021, 12:01:41 PM »
"Abstinence teaching" is not "stupid".  Only stupid people believe that.

Abstinence is the only form of birth control known that is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy AND disease.  To deny that GLARING FACT is what's stupid.

While it should not be taught as the sole method of birth control, it should at a minimum be presented as a viable alternative.

Freedom is important to some people, as in the freedom to choose whether or not to engage in sexual behaviors prior to wanting to start a family.  This includes both boys and girls.

Schools are teaching young children about Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, Transvestites, Transgenders, and a host of other sexually-oriented topics.  But abstinence is "stupid?"

You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's stupid.
« Last Edit: February 21, 2021, 04:02:08 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #571 on: February 21, 2021, 03:09:56 PM »
you two are one and the same

You linked two unrelated topics. This is one topic.

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #572 on: February 21, 2021, 03:11:50 PM »
"Abstinence teaching" is not "stupid".  Only stupid people believe that.

Abstinence is the only form of birth control known that is 100% effective in preventing pregnancy.  To deny that GLARING FACT is what's stupid.

While it should not be taught as the sole method of birth control, it should at a minimum be presented as a viable alternative.

Freedom is important to some people, as in the freedom to choose whether or not to engage in sexual behaviors prior to wanting to start a family.  This includes both boys and girls.

Schools are teaching young children about Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, Transvestites, Transgenders, and a host of other sexually-oriented topics.  But abstinence is "stupid?"

You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's stupid.

The current abstinence sex ed is mostly an all or nothing.   Of course regular sex ed teaches you to make your own choice.  But the key is it gives you multiple choices.  To think that typing people will only choose abstinence is ignorant.  Most ppl do not wait till marriage to have sex.   Or have sex for just procreation.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #573 on: February 21, 2021, 03:12:24 PM »
The current abstinence sex ed is mostly an all or nothing.   Of course regular sex ed teaches you to make your own choice.  But the key is it gives you multiple choices.  To think that typing people will only choice abstinence is ignorant.

Source?
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #575 on: February 21, 2021, 03:36:57 PM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/fact-sheet/abstinence-education-programs-definition-funding-and-impact-on-teen-sexual-behavior/amp/

Your source says the opposite of your claim:

"The current abstinence sex ed is mostly an all or nothing."

Quote
Comprehensive sex education is more diversely defined. Most generally, these programs include
medically accurate, evidence-based information about both contraception and abstinence, as well
as condoms to prevent STI transmission. Some programs, known as “abstinence-plus,” stress abstinence as the best way to prevent pregnancy and STIs, but also include information on contraception and condoms. Other programs emphasize safe-sex practices and often include information about healthy relationships and lifestyles.

So, not "all or nothing".
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #576 on: February 21, 2021, 03:40:49 PM »
Your source says the opposite of your claim:

"The current abstinence sex ed is mostly an all or nothing."

So, not "all or nothing".

but omni is not wrong...

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #577 on: February 21, 2021, 03:44:50 PM »
Your source says the opposite of your claim:

"The current abstinence sex ed is mostly an all or nothing."

So, not "all or nothing".

Hmmm in practice, religious schools tend to only teach abstinence.   Not sure how to prove that.   🤔  just going by people I know. 

robtmc

Re: Abortion
« Reply #578 on: February 21, 2021, 03:47:05 PM »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #579 on: February 21, 2021, 03:48:35 PM »
Hmmm in practice, religious schools tend to only teach abstinence.   Not sure how to prove that.   🤔  just going by people I know.

Why can't you accept being wrong?  You made a general statement that on it's face was farcical. 

Now you want to cite "people I know" as a source?

Just stop.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw