Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227295 times)

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #680 on: June 17, 2021, 06:05:32 AM »
Obviously you were dropped on your head during delivery and your moral compass is way out of whack. That's a very terrible, borderline evil statement about abortions. Your statement marginalizes life. You should check yourself. You need Jesus.

I prefer to try look at things more scientifically.   Funny when you mention morality and you are trying to force a person to do something against their will.   Or trying have a child born into a negative  environment.   I think that's more immoral.  🤔

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #681 on: June 17, 2021, 06:14:50 AM »
Seriously.
Only the unwanted or the damaged ?
Great for evolution and the human race ?
 :wtf:

And I’m on the it’s the women’s choice if she can live with it aisle.

Fawk ! I’m with Flapp now. Sometimes just stop. Or hear yourself.

I hear myself perfectly fine.   Unfortunate that you are anti choice  and pro suffering now.  😕


Sorry that my belief is that children should be healthy and wanted before being born into this world.   

Alot of these morality questions come from do you think the blob of cells is "a fully conscious human". 

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #682 on: June 17, 2021, 07:56:20 AM »
PELOSI PRESSED on ABORTION: ‘Is an Unborn Baby at 15 Weeks a Human Being?’

https://hannity.com/media-room/pelosi-pressed-on-abortion-is-an-unborn-baby-at-15-weeks-a-human-being/

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ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #683 on: June 17, 2021, 07:58:09 AM »
I prefer to try look at things more scientifically.   Funny when you mention morality and you are trying to force a person to do something against their will.   Or trying have a child born into a negative  environment.   I think that's more immoral.  🤔

Conception is a choice - exigent circumstances withheld. I never said anything about forcing a person to do ANYTHING. That is the problem with you posting here - you interject your responses with lies about what people said.
Deeds Not Words

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #684 on: June 17, 2021, 11:37:55 AM »
Conception is a choice - exigent circumstances withheld. I never said anything about forcing a person to do ANYTHING. That is the problem with you posting here - you interject your responses with lies about what people said.

Are people capable of changing their minds?  Is sex only done for the sole sake of procreation? 

You are anti abortion,  thus anti choice.  Unless you can explain to be a scenario both exist.

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #685 on: June 17, 2021, 11:40:16 AM »
PELOSI PRESSED on ABORTION: ‘Is an Unborn Baby at 15 Weeks a Human Being?’

https://hannity.com/media-room/pelosi-pressed-on-abortion-is-an-unborn-baby-at-15-weeks-a-human-being/

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Dang first time in a while that I can remember where I thought pelosi did good.   :shaka:

ren

Re: Abortion
« Reply #686 on: June 17, 2021, 12:03:40 PM »
Are people capable of changing their minds?  Is sex only done for the sole sake of procreation? 

You are anti abortion,  thus anti choice.  Unless you can explain to be a scenario both exist.

Hey tool - where did I say I was anti abortion or anti choice? I didn't vote in your poll. I was referring to your fucked up statement about how you view life. China views life the same as you do.
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #687 on: June 17, 2021, 12:12:40 PM »
PELOSI PRESSED on ABORTION: ‘Is an Unborn Baby at 15 Weeks a Human Being?’

https://hannity.com/media-room/pelosi-pressed-on-abortion-is-an-unborn-baby-at-15-weeks-a-human-being/

Completely and undeniably failed to answer the question. 

The Democrats give millions to Planned Parenthood.  If they supported the "right to choose", Congress would also appropriate the SAME AMOUNT OF TAX PAYER DOLLARS to groups that support alternatives to abortion -- you know ... actual "choices."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #688 on: June 17, 2021, 01:16:45 PM »
Hey tool - where did I say I was anti abortion or anti choice? I didn't vote in your poll. I was referring to your fucked up statement about how you view life. China views life the same as you do.

At least in China you can have more than 1 child now.

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #689 on: June 17, 2021, 02:44:37 PM »
Hey tool - where did I say I was anti abortion or anti choice? I didn't vote in your poll. I was referring to your fucked up statement about how you view life. China views life the same as you do.

Since all the comments and content so far have not had any support.  And you are brining up topics that anti's use.  Its a bit obvious...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #690 on: June 17, 2021, 03:08:33 PM »
Since all the comments and content so far have not had any support.  And you are brining up topics that anti's use.  Its a bit obvious...

you left out IN YOUR OPINION.

 :crazy:

Typical Liberal mindset.  If you say you support X, then you MUST not support any of the opposing views of X.

Tell us again who's "always all or nothing."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #691 on: June 17, 2021, 03:17:21 PM »
Since all the comments and content so far have not had any support.  And you are brining up topics that anti's use.  Its a bit obvious...

soaking topics in salt water?

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #692 on: June 17, 2021, 04:26:36 PM »
you left out IN YOUR OPINION.

 :crazy:

Typical Liberal mindset.  If you say you support X, then you MUST not support any of the opposing views of X.

Tell us again who's "always all or nothing."

Not really.   If I kept listing the reasons and explanations that there are no higher beings. And I've never mentioned I was religious.
 Would you assume I was a Christian?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #693 on: June 17, 2021, 05:27:21 PM »
Not really.   If I kept listing the reasons and explanations that there are no higher beings. And I've never mentioned I was religious.
 Would you assume I was a Christian?

Assumption is the mother of all f*ck-ups.

That's half your problem here.  You ASSUME that everyone else follows the same thought processes you do.  Just because you make faulty assumptions time after time doesn't mean the rest of us are just as bad.

Once you've lived long enough and learned from your and others' mistakes, you stop doing stupid things as often such as making unfounded assumptions about people.

You assume I'm Christian, don't you?  But you know nothing about me that I don't tell you.

Suffice it to say I was raised going to Sunday School and attending church until I went to College.  I can count the number of times since then that I've attended a service other than a baptism or wedding on one hand.  So, how "Christian" does that make me? 

It doesn't matter where you get your morals as long as you have them.  I think you never really learned the important moral lessons.  The whole world revolves around you, your opinions and the law.  Not much else seems to be driving your ethics.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #694 on: June 17, 2021, 06:31:27 PM »
Assumption is the mother of all f*ck-ups.

That's half your problem here.  You ASSUME that everyone else follows the same thought processes you do.  Just because you make faulty assumptions time after time doesn't mean the rest of us are just as bad.

Once you've lived long enough and learned from your and others' mistakes, you stop doing stupid things as often such as making unfounded assumptions about people.

You assume I'm Christian, don't you?  But you know nothing about me that I don't tell you.

Suffice it to say I was raised going to Sunday School and attending church until I went to College.  I can count the number of times since then that I've attended a service other than a baptism or wedding on one hand.  So, how "Christian" does that make me? 

It doesn't matter where you get your morals as long as you have them.  I think you never really learned the important moral lessons.  The whole world revolves around you, your opinions and the law.  Not much else seems to be driving your ethics.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #695 on: June 17, 2021, 06:46:46 PM »
Refund needed, didnt teach econ, ethics, climate, marketing, logic.

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You left out the biggie:

English vocabulary, grammar and reading comprehension.  Without that, teaching the other subjects you mentioned would have been much more difficult.

Reading is Fun-Demental!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #696 on: June 17, 2021, 08:05:26 PM »
Assumption is the mother of all f*ck-ups.

That's half your problem here.  You ASSUME that everyone else follows the same thought processes you do.  Just because you make faulty assumptions time after time doesn't mean the rest of us are just as bad.

Once you've lived long enough and learned from your and others' mistakes, you stop doing stupid things as often such as making unfounded assumptions about people.

You assume I'm Christian, don't you?  But you know nothing about me that I don't tell you.

Suffice it to say I was raised going to Sunday School and attending church until I went to College.  I can count the number of times since then that I've attended a service other than a baptism or wedding on one hand.  So, how "Christian" does that make me? 

It doesn't matter where you get your morals as long as you have them.  I think you never really learned the important moral lessons.  The whole world revolves around you, your opinions and the law.  Not much else seems to be driving your ethics.

I know you are against abortion.  And cite God in your beliefs.   Not what religion.   But if I were to guess you are religious.

Unless everyone will document every single aspect of their thoughts.  Assumptions need to be made.   Yall assume many things about me. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #697 on: June 17, 2021, 10:59:03 PM »
I know you are against abortion.  And cite God in your beliefs.   Not what religion.   But if I were to guess you are religious.

Unless everyone will document every single aspect of their thoughts.  Assumptions need to be made.   Yall assume many things about me.

Wrong, wrong and wrong.

I am not against abortion.  Who told you that?  Sure wasn't me.

I'm simply arguing that abortion should have LIMITS and RESTRICTIONS to protect the life of the unborn child.  Science has advanced significantly since Roe v Wade, and the law continues to be skewed toward a political ends instead of following the science.

Abortion is a valuable OPTION in limited cases of incest, rape and in cases which put the mother's life at risk.  That decision is for the family and doctor to make. 

But you support abortion as birth control -- free, frequent and no consequences.  That's an amoral approach.

I'm not religious.  I argue sometimes from a religious viewpoint, but only because that's sometimes the best way to explain right, wrong and consequences.  Most people have at least some background in religion, so it's a good place to find common understanding of principles and values.

The main difference between you and me is I respect the beliefs of people who follow religion, I understand Christianity because I studied it, and I don't belittle anyone who chooses to believe in God, because I'd rather have that than someone who thinks life is all about personal gain and helping others is for suckers.

Your assumptions wind up digging holes that you refuse to acknowledge were wrong.   Then you insult the religion you wrongly assume I follow.  Petty and ineffective, not to mention something an asshole would do considering the country was founded to in part permit freedom to worship as one wants -- a right that happens to be the FIRST IN A LIST OF CIVIL RIGHTS called "The Bill of Rights."

Just because you don't like religion, you think you have a superior opinion.  You DO have a religion.  It's called Liberalism.  Call yourself whatever you like, but your idealogical BS you post daily is 80% Democrat Liberal Socialist Leftist dogma.

Get over yourself.  Your assumptions are in your little mind.  Maybe you should try ASKING the person you're judging whether your assumptions are even close to accurate.  You'll be surprised how less often you'll get into arguments over bogus assumptions.
« Last Edit: June 17, 2021, 11:10:35 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #698 on: June 18, 2021, 06:50:54 AM »
Rep. Lauren Boebert Shares Why She Chose to Run for Office to Defend the Unborn



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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #699 on: June 18, 2021, 06:54:51 AM »
Wrong, wrong and wrong.

I am not against abortion.  Who told you that?  Sure wasn't me.

I'm simply arguing that abortion should have LIMITS and RESTRICTIONS to protect the life of the unborn child.  Science has advanced significantly since Roe v Wade, and the law continues to be skewed toward a political ends instead of following the science.

Abortion is a valuable OPTION in limited cases of incest, rape and in cases which put the mother's life at risk.  That decision is for the family and doctor to make. 

But you support abortion as birth control -- free, frequent and no consequences.  That's an amoral approach.

I'm not religious.  I argue sometimes from a religious viewpoint, but only because that's sometimes the best way to explain right, wrong and consequences.  Most people have at least some background in religion, so it's a good place to find common understanding of principles and values.

The main difference between you and me is I respect the beliefs of people who follow religion, I understand Christianity because I studied it, and I don't belittle anyone who chooses to believe in God, because I'd rather have that than someone who thinks life is all about personal gain and helping others is for suckers.

Your assumptions wind up digging holes that you refuse to acknowledge were wrong.   Then you insult the religion you wrongly assume I follow.  Petty and ineffective, not to mention something an asshole would do considering the country was founded to in part permit freedom to worship as one wants -- a right that happens to be the FIRST IN A LIST OF CIVIL RIGHTS called "The Bill of Rights."

Just because you don't like religion, you think you have a superior opinion.  You DO have a religion.  It's called Liberalism.  Call yourself whatever you like, but your idealogical BS you post daily is 80% Democrat Liberal Socialist Leftist dogma.

Get over yourself.  Your assumptions are in your little mind.  Maybe you should try ASKING the person you're judging whether your assumptions are even close to accurate.  You'll be surprised how less often you'll get into arguments over bogus assumptions.

Lol you actually think I'm a liberal what an wrong assumption.   🤣

I am not anti religion another wrong assumption.  I'm anti religion in government and influencing others.   You are free to follow whatever rules you want.  But don't for a second force that on another person.   Don't like abortion?  Don't do it.  Don't make rules for others based on your religion,  your perceived morals.  That's such a "liberal" thing to do.   

Just like blm and their forcing of perceived racist sjw stuff on others.  You are what you hate and are blind to it.   

If you don't want to use abortion as birth control don't.   But don't force that opinion on others.  That's the true conservative way.   You liberal.