Poll

What is your stance on abortion?

Under no circumstances allowed
29.6%
Under rape/incest
25.9%
Under Medical or Genetic issues.
7.4%
Personal choice
33.3%
Forced
3.7%
Total Members Voted
27

Abortion (Read 227226 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #800 on: July 29, 2021, 01:11:35 PM »
You can't force people to have abortions.

There's no evidence the people opting to have the most abortions are the ones giving birth to "criminals".

Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood as a Eugenics solution -- to diminish the minority (Black) population.  If you agree she had the right idea, you are the worst kind of racist.   O0

Imagine if the money poured into Planned Parenthood went into supporting urban neighborhoods -- schools, small business, gang crime prevention, ...
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #801 on: July 29, 2021, 01:38:49 PM »
You can't force people to have abortions.

There's no evidence the people opting to have the most abortions are the ones giving birth to "criminals".

Margaret Sanger started Planned Parenthood as a Eugenics solution -- to diminish the minority (Black) population.  If you agree she had the right idea, you are the worst kind of racist.   O0

Imagine if the money poured into Planned Parenthood went into supporting urban neighborhoods -- schools, small business, gang crime prevention, ...

Show me where I said to force people to have abortions.

Poor people having babies more times than not will only get poorer.  Unless you support welfare. 

People forced to have birth defected kids will occur more burdons on society from education to health.  Aka even more welfare.

Nothing to do with race.  Looks like you just really like commie welfare states.

You make it seem like planned parenthood is a big expense and all they do is abortions. Both are false accusations.  I went to planned parenthood and I didn't get an abortion.  STD checks and health checks only benefit society unless you like STDs spreading around, then again that would make your views on covid make more sense....Probably would fear monger STI vaccines too. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #802 on: July 29, 2021, 01:50:05 PM »
Show me where I said to force people to have abortions.

Poor people having babies more times than not will only get poorer.  Unless you support welfare. 

People forced to have birth defected kids will occur more burdons on society from education to health.  Aka even more welfare.

Nothing to do with race.  Looks like you just really like commie welfare states.

You make it seem like planned parenthood is a big expense and all they do is abortions. Both are false accusations.  I went to planned parenthood and I didn't get an abortion.  STD checks and health checks only benefit society unless you like STDs spreading around, then again that would make your views on covid make more sense....Probably would fear monger STI vaccines too.

Show me where I quoted or responded to you at all.

#DumbassTrolls
#ThoseIgnorantPeople

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #803 on: July 29, 2021, 01:51:33 PM »
Show me where I quoted or responded to you at all.

#DumbassTrolls

Add "doesn't know how to use "show me"" to the list.

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #804 on: July 29, 2021, 01:58:09 PM »
Show me where I said to force people to have abortions.

Poor people having babies more times than not will only get poorer.  Unless you support welfare. 

People forced to have birth defected kids will occur more burdons on society from education to health.  Aka even more welfare.

Nothing to do with race.  Looks like you just really like commie welfare states.

You make it seem like planned parenthood is a big expense and all they do is abortions. Both are false accusations.  I went to planned parenthood and I didn't get an abortion.  STD checks and health checks only benefit society unless you like STDs spreading around, then again that would make your views on covid make more sense....Probably would fear monger STI vaccines too.

Nothing in this post makes sense.  Flapp addressed the show me portion.

Only to you it seems that Flapp made it seem like all PP does is abortions.  So try again. Assumption mistake again. PP has shown on their tax returns how many millions they get by the feds. Then to donate millions to majority DNC politicians.  If they have millions to give away, why are the feds funding them so much?

People with critical thinking abilities know why PP offers other services.  Guess you didn't see the Project Veritas under cover video talking to PP  and what they do with the aborted parts. 

*edit
Guess $100-$500 million isn't a big expense.  I use the range because it depends on what kid of federal funding is considered.

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #805 on: July 29, 2021, 01:59:06 PM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #806 on: July 29, 2021, 02:06:59 PM »
Nothing in this post makes sense.  Flapp addressed the show me portion.

That's because he's just pasting his abortion talking points.  Doesn't matter if it addresses my comments.

He needs to stop engaging me at all. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #807 on: July 29, 2021, 02:24:24 PM »
Nothing in this post makes sense.  Flapp addressed the show me portion.

Only to you it seems that Flapp made it seem like all PP does is abortions.  So try again. Assumption mistake again. PP has shown on their tax returns how many millions they get by the feds. Then to donate millions to majority DNC politicians.  If they have millions to give away, why are the feds funding them so much?

People with critical thinking abilities know why PP offers other services.  Guess you didn't see the Project Veritas under cover video talking to PP  and what they do with the aborted parts. 

*edit
Guess $100-$500 million isn't a big expense.  I use the range because it depends on what kid of federal funding is considered.

Alright he didn't directly quote me,  he just retorted on many things I said  :crazy:

Lets make alot of assumptions cause I know you hate them.   Lets assume project scamitas was indeed correct.  Who cares if they sell the parts, if anything that will make the "big expense" smaller.  Capitalism go.  Now lets assume its 500mil the high range of your figures.  Thats a tiny amount compared to many other programs and would not be enough to address any of flapps comments on alternative funding areas. 

Then we get to the point you ignored the obvious right areas where I pointed out less abortions = more welfare.

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #808 on: July 29, 2021, 02:26:20 PM »
you not justifying that 3.7 by saying that republican states have higher taxes and crime rates...

I said The republicans hopefully will learn over time what polices like that will do to their states..  Guess what that means?  In the future...Which implies its not the case now...showing that doctorate skills. 

Right now they are enjoying the fruits of labor from the liberals.  Then again there's also a reason many republican areas are not leading in GDP. 

macsak

Re: Abortion
« Reply #809 on: July 29, 2021, 02:36:29 PM »
I said The republicans hopefully will learn over time what polices like that will do to their states..  Guess what that means?  In the future...Which implies its not the case now...showing that doctorate skills. 

Right now they are enjoying the fruits of labor from the liberals.  Then again there's also a reason many republican areas are not leading in GDP.

please prove that the policies "will" lead to higher taxes and crime rates...

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #810 on: July 29, 2021, 03:07:09 PM »
Alright he didn't directly quote me,  he just retorted on many things I said  :crazy:

Lets make alot of assumptions cause I know you hate them.   Lets assume project scamitas was indeed correct.  Who cares if they sell the parts, if anything that will make the "big expense" smaller.  Capitalism go.  Now lets assume its 500mil the high range of your figures.  Thats a tiny amount compared to many other programs and would not be enough to address any of flapps comments on alternative funding areas. 

Then we get to the point you ignored the obvious right areas where I pointed out less abortions = more welfare.
So now u state that u know i hate assumptions?

Its the one who makes them and then is wrong that looks like a moron. Not the one who is pointing out an assumption was made.

Anyone can assume anything. So your story...goalpost assumed to be moved.

So ignoring of something u post means that u are right? Maybe u post so much wrong stuff that some of it will be missed or the need to address it all wasnt needed.

Nice assumption again. Did u watch the vid i posted?


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omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #811 on: July 29, 2021, 04:28:55 PM »
please prove that the policies "will" lead to higher taxes and crime rates...

Don't have time to give you a research paper on how poor people having more kids and getting poorer will create more crime.  Nor do I have time to get you papers on how the unwanted or genetic or medically insufficient births will effect the medical and welfare budget. 

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #812 on: July 29, 2021, 04:29:51 PM »
So now u state that u know i hate assumptions?

Its the one who makes them and then is wrong that looks like a moron. Not the one who is pointing out an assumption was made.

Anyone can assume anything. So your story...goalpost assumed to be moved.

So ignoring of something u post means that u are right? Maybe u post so much wrong stuff that some of it will be missed or the need to address it all wasnt needed.

Nice assumption again. Did u watch the vid i posted?


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Your vid link does not show on this forum.  Age restricted.

aletheuo137

Re: Abortion
« Reply #813 on: July 29, 2021, 04:30:20 PM »
"Nice assumption again. Did u watch the vid i posted?"

Can I have, not really?

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #814 on: July 29, 2021, 04:32:15 PM »
Your vid link does not show on this forum.  Age restricted.

IT SME -- but doesn't know how to watch a video on the YouTube app or browser.

#ThoseIgnorantPeople
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Abortion
« Reply #815 on: July 29, 2021, 04:35:22 PM »
IT SME -- but doesn't know how to watch a video on the YouTube app or browser.

#ThoseIgnorantPeople

Don't have a youtube account.  Guessing by the title its some meme. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Abortion
« Reply #816 on: July 29, 2021, 04:42:17 PM »
Don't have a youtube account.  Guessing by the title its some meme.

Doesn't have a YT account -- cries because he can't open an "Age Restricted" video.

Must be Trump's fault!

#ThoseIgnorantPeople
#NotSarcasm
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

aieahound

Re: Abortion
« Reply #817 on: July 29, 2021, 04:47:13 PM »
Doesn't have a YT account -- cries because he can't open an "Age Restricted" video.

Must be Trump's fault!

#ThoseIgnorantPeople
#NotSarcasm

Doesn’t having a YouTube account violate like half the shit half the members here believe in ?
Dammit. Assumption based on prior posts that are anti-government and Big Tech.
I don’t have a YouTube account or Facebook or Instagram or Twitter.
I use Pictograph.

Doesn’t Planned Parenthood get most of their Federal funding through Medicaid claims ? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/health/planned-parenthood-title-x.html

The fact they have a political Super - PAC is fawked.
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/09/768399183/with-abortion-rights-on-the-line-planned-parenthood-announces-2020-push
But then so is the NRA.
Guess everyone gotta grease the wheel to protect their Rights.

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#WhyFourUserNames
« Last Edit: July 29, 2021, 04:58:16 PM by aieahound »

changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #818 on: July 29, 2021, 04:59:00 PM »
Your vid link does not show on this forum.  Age restricted.
Are u under 18?

Or did u see under siege 2?

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changemyoil66

Re: Abortion
« Reply #819 on: July 29, 2021, 05:02:40 PM »
Doesn’t having a YouTube account violate like half the shit half the members here believe in ?
Dammit. Assumption based on prior posts that are anti-government and Big Tech.
I don’t have a YouTube account or Facebook or Instagram or Twitter.
I use Pictograph.

Doesn’t Planned Parenthood get most of their Federal funding through Medicaid claims ? 
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/health/planned-parenthood-title-x.html

The fact they have a political Super - PAC is fawked.
https://www.npr.org/2019/10/09/768399183/with-abortion-rights-on-the-line-planned-parenthood-announces-2020-push
But then so is the NRA.
Guess everyone gotta grease the wheel to protect their Rights.

#TrollsInControl
#WhyFourUserNames
Thats why i stated the range and why, due to medicare as 1 example. Omni choose to use the highest # for his example. I was learning toward the low end, which is still a lot of $. But hey, maybe to private school kids, $100 million is chump change.


YT holds a monopoly and so does other social media. Their popularity allows the monopoly. Are there less popular venues available, of course. But the info i need arent readily available.

I use YT a lot for instructions on firearm cleaning, reviews, training, etc...IG for info, like LT. Gov green uses his to show HI covid numbers. Green doesnt have an emailer and the way he breaks down the info makes it easier to understand than just using the Hawaiicovid19 website.

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