Final Presidential Debate (Read 13536 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2020, 04:48:44 PM »
Yeah. Biden stumbled so many times. Something I picked up on many of Biden’s debates. Think deeps down he’s a bully that is just used to getting his way.

Ever have contact with someone suffering dementia or mental decline?  They can get really mad when they aren't able to kickstart their brain in the right direction.

Mostly out of frustration at themselves, but the angry outbursts are an indication they are struggling to remember or can't quite keep their train of thought on the rails.

Looking into Biden's eyes as he talked for more than 30 seconds, he really looked super old and struggling to remember simple facts.  He fell back on a lot of "listen", "here's the thing", and platitudes (all American's president, character, fear over COVID, Trump's a racist, etc.  No plans or details, just "give them more money" -- standard answer to "what will you do?").

Every election year, I hear Dems promise "Money! Money! Money!"  Never fixes a damned thing.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2020, 04:58:32 PM »
Ever have contact with someone suffering dementia or mental decline?  They can get really mad when they aren't able to kickstart their brain in the right direction.

Mostly out of frustration at themselves, but the angry outbursts are an indication they are struggling to remember or can't quite keep their train of thought on the rails.

Looking into Biden's eyes as he talked for more than 30 seconds, he really looked super old and struggling to remember simple facts.  He fell back on a lot of "listen", "here's the thing", and platitudes (all American's president, character, fear over COVID, Trump's a racist, etc.  No plans or details, just "give them more money" -- standard answer to "what will you do?").

Every election year, I hear Dems promise "Money! Money! Money!"  Never fixes a damned thing.
Actually yes. With family and family of friends.

I noticed that you’re saying to. An aspect of coaching on points. Trump seemed to have good counters with exception of a couple points (taxes, and another one I can’t remember). Another thing I noticed is Trump was looking at Biden while Biden was talking. Biden was usually looking down, sometimes I thought he was sleeping. I was gonna add a joke about the earwig. But already had one in there. Haha

drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #42 on: October 22, 2020, 05:01:10 PM »
I actually thought Biden connected with a few points. Overall, while I think Trump did prob his best in a debate, at least that I’ve seen. I don’t think it will significantly sway. Maybe, maybe the stuff about oil and crime, but don’t think they got j to that enough.

I do want to see how the slow release of Biden info plays out. Suspicious timing? I would say u fortunate that it got this far. But the acts seem to be too much to just ignore.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2020, 05:10:30 PM »
I actually thought Biden connected with a few points. Overall, while I think Trump did prob his best in a debate, at least that I’ve seen. I don’t think it will significantly sway. Maybe, maybe the stuff about oil and crime, but don’t think they got j to that enough.

I do want to see how the slow release of Biden info plays out. Suspicious timing? I would say u fortunate that it got this far. But the acts seem to be too much to just ignore.

Nothing really suspicious about it.  Giuliani said the repair shop owner contacted the FBI.  As he waited to have them pick it up, he made a copy of the data to prevent "accidental loss" or a two year delay in taking action.  After 6 months, he contacted Giuliani's lawyer.  After he sent a copy of the disk to him, Giuliani had some people look into it.  They gave him some parts of the emails and photos, which Giulani said he then spent a week verifying its authenticity in part by contacting the people in the email chains.  Look up Anthony Bobulinski.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partner-alleges-father-knew-about-venture-11603421247

If it was orchestrated as an October surprise, they made a tactical error.  With early voting happening, the release should have begun 3 weeks earlier.

Maybe they planned an earlier release, but Trump's COVID infection might have created a problem with the press cycle being overshadowed.  maybe.

I think they released it as soon as they were sure the info was legit, including having the DNI, DHS and FBI announce there's no evidence the info on the laptop came from any foreign election interference efforts.   :thumbsup:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #44 on: October 22, 2020, 05:15:18 PM »
Nothing really suspicious about it.  Giuliani said the repair shop owner contacted the FBI.  As he waited to have them pick it up, he made a copy of the data to prevent "accidental loss" or a two year delay in taking action.  After 6 months, he contacted Giuliani's lawyer.  After he sent a copy of the disk to him, Giuliani had some people look into it.  They gave him some parts of the emails and photos, which Giulani said he then spent a week verifying its authenticity in part by contacting the people in the email chains.  Look up Anthony Bobulinski.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-bidens-ex-business-partner-alleges-father-knew-about-venture-11603421247

If it was orchestrated as an October surprise, they made a tactical error.  With early voting happening, the release should have begun 3 weeks earlier.

Maybe they planned an earlier release, but Trump's COVID infection might have created a problem with the press cycle being overshadowed.  maybe.

I think they released it as soon as they were sure the info was legit, including having the DNI, DHS and FBI announce there's no evidence the info on the laptop came from any foreign election interference efforts.   :thumbsup:
You and OG already beat that subject up. I’ll just say that my point of IF it is suspicious is from the video I posted in the Biden thread. To me, the conduct is all that matters. I don’t care about timing.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #45 on: October 22, 2020, 05:35:44 PM »
You and OG already beat that subject up. I’ll just say that my point of IF it is suspicious is from the video I posted in the Biden thread. To me, the conduct is all that matters. I don’t care about timing.

Ed Zachery!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

omnigun

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #46 on: October 22, 2020, 05:40:43 PM »
Trump did far better this debate.  That's all I got to say. Wasn't screaming and interrupting Biden every 10 seconds.  He actually acted presidential for once. 

robtmc

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #47 on: October 22, 2020, 05:43:56 PM »
Did not watch it, was sighting in new Williams aperture sights on my airguns.

Let me guess, that ignorant millennial kid thinks China Joe mopped the floor with Trump, regardless of what was said in the debate?

Who cares what HPD troll fisheye and that other clown think, they have been blocked for so long cannot recall what triggers them.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2020, 05:52:28 PM »
Did not watch it, was sighting in new Williams aperture sights on my airguns.

Let me guess, that ignorant millennial kid thinks China Joe mopped the floor with Trump, regardless of what was said in the debate?

Who cares what HPD troll fisheye and that other clown think, they have been blocked for so long cannot recall what triggers them.

OG said Trump did better than before.

That's all he had to say.

Then he went on to say more.

 :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2020, 05:53:36 PM »
Did not watch it, was sighting in new Williams aperture sights on my airguns.

Let me guess, that ignorant millennial kid thinks China Joe mopped the floor with Trump, regardless of what was said in the debate?

Who cares what HPD troll fisheye and that other clown think, they have been blocked for so long cannot recall what triggers them.
Actually no

omnigun

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #50 on: October 22, 2020, 05:56:12 PM »
OG said Trump did better than before.

That's all he had to say.

Then he went on to say more.

 :crazy:

Haven't finished watching so I don't want to comment yet. So far Trump I would say won this debate.  Much different from the last one. 

drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #51 on: October 22, 2020, 06:49:31 PM »

macsak

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2020, 07:41:20 PM »

drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2020, 07:45:51 PM »

Got a bunch of uber liberal friends (using that term loosely) in WA that picked up on the “you’ll have to learn to die with Covid” thing and more testimony coming on Biden.

“Let’s finish this”

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2020, 07:46:16 PM »
The moderator was a double edge sword for Trump.  She gave him more follow up questions, and asking more detailed questions, than she did for Biden.

While that's a bit lopsided, I'm sure intended to help Biden (or at least not hurt him as much), it gave Trump the opportunity to demonstrate his grasp of the subject matter.  I didn't see him fail to answer many follow ups while also getting his own points in.

I think she made Trump look good, showing he can hit fastballs while Biden was hitting slow, underhand pitches.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2020, 07:51:31 PM »
The moderator was a double edge sword for Trump.  She gave him more follow up questions, and asking more detailed questions, than she did for Biden.

While that's a bit lopsided, I'm sure intended to help Biden (or at least not hurt him as much), it gave Trump the opportunity to demonstrate his grasp of the subject matter.  I didn't see him fail to answer many follow ups while also getting his own points in.

I think she made Trump look good, showing he can hit fastballs while Biden was hitting slow, underhand pitches.
That was one thing I picked up on. Trump seemed pretty prepared with the topics. While I think Trump could’ve done better on climate change, Biden butchered it. At least IMO. “Climate warming”?

I do think the moderators clarifications were more pointed to Trump.  However, she did seem to allow Trump to respond to things Biden tried to twist. The oil industry one was a doozy.

changemyoil66

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2020, 09:36:33 PM »
What about abraham lincoln?

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drck1000

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2020, 09:53:17 PM »
What about abraham lincoln?

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Biden thinks he’s running against him.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Final Presidential Debate
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2020, 09:56:06 PM »
Biden thinks he’s running against him.

Flashbacks?   :crazy:

That would have been decades less than the 180 years he was in the Senate.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw