The COVID Cult (Read 1789830 times)

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #420 on: December 02, 2020, 11:59:03 AM »
Those laws and EO's are OK because it's all for the greater good.
The “officials” know best

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #421 on: December 02, 2020, 12:00:05 PM »
There is plenty and hopefully they will be cleared up in the courts and our rights restored.  But I failed to see the link to covid...and masks...
“Your failing to see” is your issue. That doesn’t mean there isn’t a link...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #422 on: December 02, 2020, 12:01:00 PM »
There is plenty and hopefully they will be cleared up in the courts and our rights restored.  But I failed to see the link to covid...and masks...

You fail to see that, even though it has been painstakingly explained to you many times.

You're admitting you either don't comprehend and/or retain anything you don't agree with.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #423 on: December 02, 2020, 12:01:55 PM »
This is exactly why the Dems in Congress and anti-gun groups started pushing the narrative that gun ownership is now a "public health issue."

We have a real parallel between that attempt to make the gov't control guns more strictly out of public health and safety concerns just like the arguments for COVID-19 ordinances are being enforced.  Constitution?  What Constitution?
Doesn’t take a “Jenius” to see the parallel...

Yes, I schpelled dat korectally l’dat

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #424 on: December 02, 2020, 12:02:32 PM »
You fail to see that, even though it has been painstakingly explained to you many times.

You're admitting you either don't comprehend and/or retain anything you don't agree with.
Bazinga

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #425 on: December 02, 2020, 12:04:26 PM »
nope, don't watch far right or left media.

it's video of a lecture, that gave specific stats and charts that contain info that directly refute your claims
but that's ok, your feelings trump actual facts...

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #426 on: December 02, 2020, 12:05:54 PM »
Not sure how you can tie being contempt of the law and 2a together...

You can try go the "public safety" anti 2a route but that can be easily blocked by the fact a gun in the hands of a responsible owner has 0% chance to harm anyone.  Vs a virus does not have a 0% chance.

Also 2a is constitutional right.  Spreading viruses isn't.  Nor is defying laws/rules.

This is some profoundly disturbing anti-logic you are using here. Have you had some sort of brain trauma?
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #427 on: December 02, 2020, 12:10:14 PM »
it's video of a lecture, that gave specific stats and charts that contain info that directly refute your claims
but that's ok, your feelings trump actual facts...

You said Trump. :rofl:

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #428 on: December 02, 2020, 12:12:47 PM »
This is some profoundly disturbing anti-logic you are using here. Have you had some sort of brain trauma?
That MAY explain some of his postings rants. . .

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #429 on: December 02, 2020, 12:13:27 PM »
it's video of a lecture, that gave specific stats and charts that contain info that directly refute your claims
but that's ok, your feelings trump actual facts...
#cogdis
#defensemechanism

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #430 on: December 02, 2020, 12:13:55 PM »
There is plenty and hopefully they will be cleared up in the courts and our rights restored.  But I failed to see the link to covid...and masks...

What laws do you think will be cleared up in court?   HI's 10rd pistol mag law?  Hi's none issue of CCW permit law? HI's no SBR law?  HI's suppressor law? HI's to and from law? HI's places to keep law?  HI's bump stock or trigger crank law?

The only laws that affects HI is the Young Vs. Hawaii open carry lawsuit., Namiki's taser lawsuit, and Kukuewa, et al....multiple trips to HPD  lawsuit.  None of which deal with the above I just posted about.

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #431 on: December 02, 2020, 12:29:19 PM »
There is plenty and hopefully they will be cleared up in the courts and our rights restored. 
SNIP
Let's try to break this down logically. . .

So you agree that there have been laws passed and/or EOs that have eroded, degraded, or otherwise infringed on 2a rights?  [Yes/No]

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #432 on: December 02, 2020, 12:30:47 PM »
You fail to see that, even though it has been painstakingly explained to you many times.

You're admitting you either don't comprehend and/or retain anything you don't agree with.

I see how you THINK it relates to 2a. But I am unconvinced.  You perceive this as anti-freedom. I don't.  Freedom stops when you take freedom from others.  AKA drunk driving.  This is very similar, you are doing something of your own will and circumstances but there is a chance for harm of public.  By your logic you should also support the repeal of any laws against drunk driving because it infringes on freedom and can lead to losing 2a.

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #433 on: December 02, 2020, 12:31:11 PM »
Let's try to break this down logically. . .

So you agree that there have been laws passed and/or EOs that have eroded, degraded, or otherwise infringed on 2a rights?  [Yes/No]

yes

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #434 on: December 02, 2020, 12:32:07 PM »
What laws do you think will be cleared up in court?   HI's 10rd pistol mag law?  Hi's none issue of CCW permit law? HI's no SBR law?  HI's suppressor law? HI's to and from law? HI's places to keep law?  HI's bump stock or trigger crank law?

The only laws that affects HI is the Young Vs. Hawaii open carry lawsuit., Namiki's taser lawsuit, and Kukuewa, et al....multiple trips to HPD  lawsuit.  None of which deal with the above I just posted about.

All of the above.  But you don't have to have Hawaii have the lawsuit for the courts to decide. If the supreme court rules it effects the whole nation. 

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #435 on: December 02, 2020, 12:35:39 PM »
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Let's try to break this down logically. . .

So you agree that there have been laws passed and/or EOs that have eroded, degraded, or otherwise infringed on 2a rights?  [Yes/No]

yes
Ok.  Roger. . .

What was the justification for said law or EO that infringed on 2a rights? 

omnigun

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #436 on: December 02, 2020, 12:37:36 PM »
Ok.  Roger. . .

What was the justification for said law or EO that infringed on 2a rights?

Not sure on the specific justifications used.

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #437 on: December 02, 2020, 12:40:43 PM »
OMFG, The Director of Public Health here in AZ was just on the TV encouraging everyone to turn in businesses and individuals. She just bragged about shutting down over 2000 businesses. What a POS.  >:(
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #438 on: December 02, 2020, 12:50:20 PM »
Not sure on the specific justifications used.
Not sure?  Or you don't know? 

Hint, it doesn't really matter.  The point is that select few imposed laws or rules based on their "own" justification, that impacts rights of individuals. 

Are the laws or EOs constitutional?  Maybe, maybe not.  The point is that laws were passed and are in effect until overturned.  Even worse with EOs as they aren't necessarily done "by committee". 

Still don't see the connection? 

In this case, I'm putting the spotlight on EOs, be it by a Mayor or Gov.  Same thing. 

drck1000

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #439 on: December 02, 2020, 12:52:36 PM »
OMFG, The Director of Public Health here in AZ was just on the TV encouraging everyone to turn in businesses and individuals. She just bragged about shutting down over 2000 businesses. What a POS.  >:(
"How dare you!"

"Think of the children"