The COVID Cult (Read 1793405 times)

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8620 on: October 08, 2021, 09:26:53 AM »
ICELAND STOPS USE OF MODERNA VACCINE
Alex Berenson
Oct 8
Not just for teenagers or people under 30. For everyone. The risk of heart problems is too high, according to their health authorities.

Source: https://www.visir.is/g/20212167101d/stodva-notkun-boluefnis-moderna-her-a-landi-i-ljosi-nyrra-gagna


macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8621 on: October 08, 2021, 09:29:12 AM »
All you need to know about vaccine failure - not in Israel, in the US - in one incredible chart
Alex Berenson
Oct 8
(Read this one to the end.)

So researchers decided to look at whether heavy use of cocaine, cannabis, and other drugs increases the risk for breakthrough Covid infections. (They found having a cannabis use disorder does; other drugs don’t, once you control for comorbidities. Tell Your Children.)

Anyway, that’s not the news.
This study was large and well-conducted. It used a database that covers 85 million Americans in 63 health-care organizations. It was published Oct. 5 in World Psychiatry, a peer-reviewed journal. People were included if they’d had no Covid infection before vaccination and had been “fully vaccinated” - that is, 14 days after the second dose.
The researchers wound up examining medical records of about 580,000 Americans, 30,000 with a substance use disorder, 550,000 without. They found that just over 7 percent of people with a use disorder wound up with a breakthrough infection between January and August, compared to 3.6 percent of those without.
Okay. Set aside the small group of users and focus only on the 550,000 people in the non-using group. They had a 3.6 percent chance of infection for fully vaccinated people over eight months, January to August.
But eight months is really about four months. Why? These are BREAKTHROUGH infections, and the average vaccinated American was not “fully” vaccinated until mid-April. (Remember, too, that “breakthrough” infections do not include the two weeks after the first dose, when vaccine efficacy is somewhere between zero and negative.)
So 1 in 28 “fully vaccinated” people was infected over the four months when the vaccines were at peak effectiveness. Because vaccines work!
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But story gets worse. Much worse.
The researchers stratified the risk of infection by month, January through August.
Here’s that chart - for the 550,000 people WITHOUT a substance use disorder, in other words the vast majority of the sample.
The rate of breakthrough infections rose FIVE-FOLD between July and August (and roughly 20-fold from March to August).
By the way, the scale here represents the rate of breakthrough infections PER DAY. In other words, in August, those 550,000 fully vaccinated people had a roughly 1 in 200 chance of being infected each day. (Which translates into about a 7 percent chance for the month, which doesn’t match the 3.6 percent total infection rate for this group for the entire time period. It is possible the data does not cover the entire month. Nonetheless the trend could not be clearer.)
As the researchers explained:
A similar trend was observed in the non-SUD population: the rate of breakthrough infection steadily increased from 0 cases/person-day in January 2021 to 0.0009 cases/person-day in June 2021, and then reached 0.0049 cases/person-day in August 2021 (5.4 times faster than in June 2021)
It is simply impossible to argue about vaccine failure any more.
Whether it’s because of the Delta variant, waning antibodies, or some combination, the vaccines simply don’t provide infection (and thus transmission) protection. The only studies that show anything like 80 or 90 percent protection after a few months are those the companies have funded. Maybe they provide some protection against serious cases - hospitalizations and deaths - for longer, but we don’t know how long, and that efficacy declines too.
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In any case, as has been pointed out over and over - but I will say yet again - if the vaccines do not stop infection and transmission, then even if they provide some health benefit (and it is far from clear they have a net health benefit for healthy adults under 50, and possibly older), they SHOULD NEVER, NEVER, NEVER be mandated.
I can’t believe I have to write this, but apparently I do.
In the United States, we do not force adults take medicines or have medical procedures if they are psychiatrically competent (and it is quite difficult to get long-term judgments of incompetency, as it should be). We do not make them lose weight. Or stop drinking. Or exercise. We do not make women have abortions (or get pregnant).
PERSONAL MEDICAL DECISION MAKING IS PERSONAL; IT DOES NOT BELONG TO THE STATE.
These Covid vaccine mandates and quasi-mandates are fast becoming the greatest infringement on liberty in the United States since slavery was abolished; and I don’t know what is going to stop them.

SOURCE: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/wps.20921

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8622 on: October 08, 2021, 09:31:40 AM »
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8623 on: October 08, 2021, 09:39:25 AM »
I had 3 coworkers go to the mainland in July. 2 of 3 caught covid. All 3 fully vaxxed.  None required hospitalization. 1 was to Vegas, the other Portland. The one that didn't catch anything was San Jose. The one that didn't catch it had no symptoms, so no testing was required.  But the other 2 had symptoms so they tested when they got back to HI.  Both flew back on the plane with symptoms because HI proclamation doesn't require the vaxxed to be tested before returning home. 

Friends who have also traveled during this time was about 7 people. 5 of 7 came back with covid.  Various cities, Vegas, Seattle, Portland, San Fran. Unsure vaxx status or other details like the above.

macsak

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8625 on: October 08, 2021, 11:31:35 AM »

Wchiro

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8626 on: October 08, 2021, 06:15:03 PM »
FDA is approaching booster shots for Moderna and Johnson & Johnson recipients with urgency. Advisory committee meetings are scheduled for Oct 14/15, which means boosters could be available the week after that.

FDA to Hold Advisory Committee Meetings to Discuss Emergency Use Authorization for Booster Doses and COVID-19 Vaccines for Younger Children:

- October 14: Moderna booster
- October 15: J&J booster
- October 15: Mix-and-match boosters
- October 26: Pfizer vaccine for kids 5-11

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-hold-advisory-committee-meetings-discuss-emergency-use-authorization-booster-doses-and-covid-19


Did anyone think about why the covid-19 vaccines still have the EUA designation?  Didn't the FDA give approval for a covid-19 vaccine?  If so that EUA and vaccine should have been removed.  The Approved FDA vaccine for covid-19 I think was called Komineri (not sure of the spelling) and according to the FDA rule if an approved drug becomes available the drug with the EUA must be removed from circulation.
Oh and by the way The FDA approved drug is not even available at this time in the USA or many other countries.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8627 on: October 08, 2021, 08:28:20 PM »

Did anyone think about why the covid-19 vaccines still have the EUA designation?  Didn't the FDA give approval for a covid-19 vaccine?  If so that EUA and vaccine should have been removed.  The Approved FDA vaccine for covid-19 I think was called Komineri (not sure of the spelling) and according to the FDA rule if an approved drug becomes available the drug with the EUA must be removed from circulation.
Oh and by the way The FDA approved drug is not even available at this time in the USA or many other countries.

Excellent point.  No need for any unapproved vaccines if there are already approved brands available ...

(1) unless the approved brand can't keep up with demand?  That happens.

(2) unless the ones producing under the EUA will be stuck with stockpiles of vaccine until they get approval -- IF they get approval?  Financial hardships based on trusting government ... it happens A LOT.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8628 on: October 08, 2021, 09:17:48 PM »
the salt must flow!

hvybarrels

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8629 on: October 09, 2021, 10:14:53 AM »
Mass Die-off in progress?
from: https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=3719829



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Annual run rate of non-institutional population over the last 12 months.  That is the total number of not-institutionalized people in the United States over the age of 16.  The only ways to leave that count once you join it on your 16th birthday are to:

Expatriate yourself and leave the US permanently.
Go to prison (you come back on it when you get out.)
Go to a nursing home (Reminder: The median life expectancy on admission to one is six months, after which you do the next.)
DIE.

Deciding to hide in Mom's basement, going on disability or otherwise choosing never to work again whether by circumstance or personal decision does not remove you from this group.  It does take you out of the "workforce" number (and adds you to the "not in labor force" number) but not from this figure.

But these estimates are what they are and if they're anywhere near accurate starting in February lots of people started dying who should not have died because the usual rate of death doesn't move these figures.

Something did -- and still is.
Pretending to be offended does not make you a good person.

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8630 on: October 10, 2021, 12:22:03 PM »

macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
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macsak

Re: The COVID Cult
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Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8633 on: October 11, 2021, 08:51:12 AM »
Glad to see this thread and the Media Lies thread are still the 2 most popular threads on the forum!!!  :love:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8634 on: October 11, 2021, 08:54:38 AM »
Glad to see this thread and the Media Lies thread are still the 2 most popular threads on the forum!!!  :love:

Welcome back. A lot of the needless post have been not posting for a few weeks now.  Forum is much better.

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8635 on: October 11, 2021, 08:56:07 AM »
Welcome back. A lot of the needless post have been not posting for a few weeks now.  Forum is much better.
NICE!!! Then I came back at a good time!  :thumbsup:
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8636 on: October 11, 2021, 08:57:30 AM »
NICE!!! Then I came back at a good time!  :thumbsup:

No jinx em.  :rofl:

Inspector

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8637 on: October 11, 2021, 09:00:11 AM »
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

aieahound

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8638 on: October 11, 2021, 09:43:27 AM »
Glad to see you back Inspector.   :shaka:

Today’s Star Advertiser paper front page headline:

“Flu proves deadlier than COVID”

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2021/10/11/hawaii-news/deaths-in-hawaii-over-the-past-12-months-exceed-pandemics-local-covid-fatalities/

changemyoil66

Re: The COVID Cult
« Reply #8639 on: October 11, 2021, 09:50:50 AM »
Glad to see you back Inspector.   :shaka:

Today’s Star Advertiser paper front page headline:

“Flu proves deadlier than COVID”

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2021/10/11/hawaii-news/deaths-in-hawaii-over-the-past-12-months-exceed-pandemics-local-covid-fatalities/

So to keep the flu spread down, we need to lock down every flu season.  Sounds like a good frog plan.