We are lost (Read 12896 times)

Kuleana

Re: We are lost
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2020, 06:49:35 PM »
Did you see the photo of the Chinese girl about to be executed? That is what your post-United States utopia is going to look like in real life.
How do you know?

When the Soviet Union fell, it was not a pretty sight, but there was less death than what would happen, if a civil war broke out, which is what some Trump supporters are contemplating.

changemyoil66

Re: We are lost
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2020, 06:51:34 PM »
Here's how our would-be (relatively soon-to-be?) overlords handle those who will not comply.


Theres a TX senator whos family this happened to. She vows to never give up her AR or make you either.

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Kuleana

Re: We are lost
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2020, 07:00:11 PM »
The delusional leftist statist progressives, such as the one you are addressing, are delusional about both the past and the future.
So says the person, who thought Trump could beat those, who really rule the US empire.



There is not a thing anyone can say or do that will change their delusion, and their commitment to bringing about dystopia in the name of "freedom" and "progress".
What makes you think the end of America is this "delusional dystopia" you speak of?



The existence of so many "useful idiots" is a sad commentary on our education system and the lack of teaching critical thinking skills.
You mean those useful idiots, in the US empire, that blindly cheer for US hegemony abroad, but get upset, when such hegemony is used against them domestically, against their permitted freedoms?

hvybarrels

Re: We are lost
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2020, 07:27:58 PM »
How do you know?

When the Soviet Union fell, it was not a pretty sight, but there was less death than what would happen, if a civil war broke out, which is what some Trump supporters are contemplating.

You are a utopian, which means to say you are more concerned with emotional fulfillment than historical precedent. It is a dangerous philosophy to assume human nature will automatically choose the right path out of chaos.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Kuleana

Re: We are lost
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2020, 08:13:09 PM »
You are a utopian, which means to say you are more concerned with emotional fulfillment than historical precedent. It is a dangerous philosophy to assume human nature will automatically choose the right path out of chaos.
So, are you saying Trump supporters should start a civil war and reap the death and destruction such a war would bring, instead of waiting, for American experiment to end and start anew?

macsak

Re: We are lost
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2020, 08:45:48 PM »
So, are you saying Trump supporters should start a civil war and reap the death and destruction such a war would bring, instead of waiting, for American experiment to end and start anew?

lol
talk about putting words in someone else's mouth...

Kuleana

Re: We are lost
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2020, 08:53:40 PM »
lol
talk about putting words in someone else's mouth...
No need to get involved.

Let the person answer the question.

macsak

Re: We are lost
« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2020, 09:03:46 PM »
No need to get involved.

Let the person answer the question.

really?
so how's about you not get involved in every thread you post in, turning it into a discussion of the end of the american empire and how the islands were illegally stolen?

ren

Re: We are lost
« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2020, 09:22:25 PM »
according to the ROs Roni are illegal to put on a pistol
Deeds Not Words

Kuleana

Re: We are lost
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2020, 12:31:25 AM »
really?
so how's about you not get involved in every thread you post in, turning it into a discussion of the end of the american empire and how the islands were illegally stolen?
That is really none of your business, as I was not talking to you.

You decided to get involved, with some provocative comments.  If you can't handle, what is being posted, I am not forcing you, to read or reply.

hvybarrels

Re: We are lost
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2020, 12:44:32 AM »
So, are you saying Trump supporters should start a civil war and reap the death and destruction such a war would bring, instead of waiting, for American experiment to end and start anew?

So, are you saying that when the USA train comes off the rails and rolls over the edge of a cliff that everyone in the cars is going to instantly land on their feet? Rights and freedom will spread across the land with minimal effort because humans are naturally wise and discerning? Come on, buddy. You can barely hide your own thirst for revenge, never mind the countless other questionable motivations circulating in a group of over 300 million other people.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Inspector

Re: We are lost
« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2020, 01:08:17 AM »
I know there are other cases being brought to the Supreme Court. These cases I feel are the cases that lack standing with the court. I feel that these cases are going to get thrown out for the same reason as the Texas case was. I believe in the constitution. And I believe the Texas case is the only case brought to SCOTUS that had the proper standing. And yet it was denied for the one reason it was brought by the states. Because according to the constitution the states have standing to bring this sort of case to SCOTUS. I am extremely disappointed in SCOTUS. They are a bunch of feckless cowards (except Alito and Thomas). This will come back to haunt them if Biden/Harris makes good on their threat and packs the court with progressive judges. We are literally No longer a functioning republic. Our lives will go on under the progressives. But we will go down hill quickly. Much more quickly than we have been.

So now what? What do we do? Will there be a civil war? Will the free states that want to remain free secede from the fallen republic? I would vote for that personally. As Groveler put it, they need us more than we need them. But they could make life really tough for us. I am very disappointed in our system right now. The one body that is supposed to protect the citizens from the type of illegal election processes let us down. The world has not come to an end. But our world will change because of this decision. JMHO
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

hvybarrels

Re: We are lost
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2020, 01:30:44 AM »
Cheer up Inspector. This is still 2020 after all, and indications are the ride will continue in 2021. Not sure that Biden/Harris will be able to accomplish much with wrecked credibility and will likely have to face ACTUAL disasters (aka not self-inflicted ones like covid). The reason corporate commies had to cheat is enough people have become aware how useless they are. All they know how to do is rig elections and redistribute wealth to the top, and that is a lousy long term plan. People are moving away from the tyranny states because they are becoming unlivable, and the refugees have already created a bad reputation for trying to ruin wherever they go. This could be 2 years of watching the left tear itself apart followed by an epic red wave for the mid terms. On the next go around I would not want to be one of those shady election officials mentioned in the affidavits. The price of openly committing fraud is now everyone knows all their tricks.
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Inspector

Re: We are lost
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2020, 02:03:58 AM »
Cheer up Inspector. This is still 2020 after all, and indications are the ride will continue in 2021. Not sure that Biden/Harris will be able to accomplish much with wrecked credibility and will likely have to face ACTUAL disasters (aka not self-inflicted ones like covid). The reason corporate commies had to cheat is enough people have become aware how useless they are. All they know how to do is rig elections and redistribute wealth to the top, and that is a lousy long term plan. People are moving away from the tyranny states because they are becoming unlivable, and the refugees have already created a bad reputation for trying to ruin wherever they go. This could be 2 years of watching the left tear itself apart followed by an epic red wave for the mid terms. On the next go around I would not want to be one of those shady election officials mentioned in the affidavits. The price of openly committing fraud is now everyone knows all their tricks.
Thanks HB. I know my life won’t change much in the near future. It is the implications of certain things that has me concerned. There are four things that concern me the most. 1. The Executive Orders. Obama was the king of these and led the way in issuing EO’s that were illegal and beyond the scope of what they were meant for in the first place. If the president can’t get his agenda through congress, just use an EO and let someone try and bring a suit if it doesn’t fall within legal parameters. I think Biden/Harris will push the envelope in this area. Especially in gun confiscation and/or gun control laws. 2. Not retaining the senate. I think this has obvious repercussions. 3. Packing the Supreme Court. While I think this will backfire on them if they try this, until it does backfire there are a boatload of cases thaat have been denied hearing that will be brought forth and ruled on. 4. The economy. If we don’t retain the Senate I fear rampant spending on a scale even greater than during the Obama years. This could bring us down quickly. Could cause accelerated inflation worse than we already are experiencing. There are other things like getting into new wars and continuing China interference and IP theft and an agreement towards moving to something like the Big Reset. I hope you are right about the Big Red Wave. It looks like it may have started in CA. I know here in AZ people are PISSED. So hopefully we will see continued push back.
SCIENCE THAT CAN’T BE QUESTIONED IS PROPAGANDA!!!

macsak

Re: We are lost
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2020, 05:29:33 AM »
That is really none of your business, as I was not talking to you.

You decided to get involved, with some provocative comments.  If you can't handle, what is being posted, I am not forcing you, to read or reply.

really?
you thought those were "provocative comments"?  If you can't handle, what is being posted, I am not forcing you, to read or reply.

omnigun

Re: We are lost
« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2020, 06:16:13 AM »
You can't hate Obama executive orders use while ignoring Trumps use of it. 

hvybarrels

Re: We are lost
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2020, 10:06:47 AM »
You can't hate Obama executive orders use while ignoring Trumps use of it.

Assassination Tuesday Bad. Bumpstock Ban also Bad. You happy now?
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: We are lost
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2020, 10:10:50 AM »
I know there are other cases being brought to the Supreme Court. These cases I feel are the cases that lack standing with the court. I feel that these cases are going to get thrown out for the same reason as the Texas case was. I believe in the constitution. And I believe the Texas case is the only case brought to SCOTUS that had the proper standing. And yet it was denied for the one reason it was brought by the states. Because according to the constitution the states have standing to bring this sort of case to SCOTUS. I am extremely disappointed in SCOTUS. They are a bunch of feckless cowards (except Alito and Thomas). This will come back to haunt them if Biden/Harris makes good on their threat and packs the court with progressive judges. We are literally No longer a functioning republic. Our lives will go on under the progressives. But we will go down hill quickly. Much more quickly than we have been.

So now what? What do we do? Will there be a civil war? Will the free states that want to remain free secede from the fallen republic? I would vote for that personally. As Groveler put it, they need us more than we need them. But they could make life really tough for us. I am very disappointed in our system right now. The one body that is supposed to protect the citizens from the type of illegal election processes let us down. The world has not come to an end. But our world will change because of this decision. JMHO

#1 thing we can do is donate to or volunteer for the Georgia Senate campaigns.  If those 2 seats go Blue, Biden will have both chambers of Congress to push the far Left agenda his handlers want to implement.  Paris Climate Accord, Economic agreements, gun control, ...  without a GOP majority in the Senate, we can't stop the insanity.  The Dems already know this and have given over $1M to their candidates for the special/run-off elections. 

https://www.loeffler.senate.gov/

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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: We are lost
« Reply #38 on: December 12, 2020, 10:14:39 AM »
You can't hate Obama executive orders use while ignoring Trumps use of it.

WTH are you posting here for?  You got your wish .... Trump lost. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Mdotweber

Re: We are lost
« Reply #39 on: December 12, 2020, 10:17:53 AM »
Isn't that a Dragunov rifle, without a scope?

Looks like a type-81
"Dont forget, incoming fire has the right of way"-Clint Smith?