If the Deep State handlers of senile and thoroughly corrupt Not-President Biden want to kick off a homegrown insurrection this is a great way to start

Once again, you have to do a FOIA request.

On a side note, a FOIA was done here on RAPBACK and about 95% of the emails were redacted. All you saw where the dates.  But in the end the FBI said that they were not aware of RAPBACK for gun owners.  Which means even though HI gun owners paid $42.50, no one was enrolled.

On a side note, a FOIA was done here on RAPBACK and about 95% of the emails were redacted. All you saw where the dates.  But in the end the FBI said that they were not aware of RAPBACK for gun owners.  Which means even though HI gun owners paid $42.50, no one was enrolled.

The FOIA requests almost always results in a lawsuit. Mostly because of the government refusing to give up the documents or because of over redaction. And almost always we win over the government. So whoever did the FOIA request should have sued to have he judge review the redactions. 9 times out of 10 the redactions were not justified.

I dont think Biden has to do much. The Firat Amendment is trampled on with mask mandates. The media paints the gun problem as an epidemic synonomously with a pandemic and the People have largely complied with govt orders for over a year without questioning freedoms or rights. All the govt has to do is initiate some kind of mandate to turn in guns and to report on your neighbors (red flag laws).

The FOIA requests almost always results in a lawsuit. Mostly because of the government refusing to give up the documents or because of over redaction. And almost always we win over the government. So whoever did the FOIA request should have sued to have he judge review the redactions. 9 times out of 10 the redactions were not justified.

They did, but IDK the status of more unredaction.

I dont think Biden has to do much. The Firat Amendment is trampled on with mask mandates. The media paints the gun problem as an epidemic synonomously with a pandemic and the People have largely complied with govt orders for over a year without questioning freedoms or rights. All the govt has to do is initiate some kind of mandate to turn in guns and to report on your neighbors (red flag laws).

It's amazing that for 4 years they pushed gun laws as 1 of their huge things they want to do.  But now when the DNC controls everything, the fed bills are sure taking their sweet time.  It's like them blaming that Trump won't sign it is no longer a scapegoat.

I dont think Biden has to do much. The Firat Amendment is trampled on with mask mandates. The media paints the gun problem as an epidemic synonomously with a pandemic and the People have largely complied with govt orders for over a year without questioning freedoms or rights. All the govt has to do is initiate some kind of mandate to turn in guns and to report on your neighbors (red flag laws).

I fully expect Hawaii to make such a demand on guns in the near future,
it will be curious how many cops will want to enforce those laws..

The FOIA requests almost always results in a lawsuit. Mostly because of the government refusing to give up the documents or because of over redaction. And almost always we win over the government. So whoever did the FOIA request should have sued to have he judge review the redactions. 9 times out of 10 the redactions were not justified.

Having been on the "wrong side" of FOIA requests a number of times, it varies.

First is a legit gripe, but there is sensitive info files/correspondence.  Tough one there and takes a LONG time to review what can, should, or needs to be redacted.

Second is a legit gripe, but between two parties and FOIA request to a third party caught in the middle by the sides trying to prove a point.

Third was a PURE fishing expedition.  Asking for info under guise of "save the fishermen of Okinawa" and asking for "anything and everything" to do with something that has NO impact on the subject, but name of project/effort/study was mentioned once in a report.  That one was easy to defend.

Overall, FOIAs are a huge PITA, but I can understand the need, utility, etc.   

I dont think Biden has to do much. The Firat Amendment is trampled on with mask mandates. The media paints the gun problem as an epidemic synonomously with a pandemic and the People have largely complied with govt orders for over a year without questioning freedoms or rights. All the govt has to do is initiate some kind of mandate to turn in guns and to report on your neighbors (red flag laws).

How is the first amendment trampled on by mask mandates?  I see no correlation, unless while you wear a mask you feel physically unable to speak. 

How is the first amendment trampled on by mask mandates?  I see no correlation, unless while you wear a mask you feel physically unable to speak.

Go back to the COVID Cult thread for that.  This is not a discussion of all things COVID that you still disagree with and have to reiterate over and over ... again and again. 

This thread's about Re: what can biden do to the 2A and guns with EO

 

the First doesn't only apply to speech but expression. The First falls, then the Second.

Go back to the COVID Cult thread for that.  This is not a discussion of all things COVID that you still disagree with and have to reiterate over and over ... again and again. 

This thread's about Re: what can biden do to the 2A and guns with EO

 

We have already gone in circle again and again. Like in chuck n larry ordaned minister scene.

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Once again, you have to do a FOIA request.

The FOIA requests almost always results in a lawsuit. Mostly because of the government refusing to give up the documents or because of over redaction. And almost always we win over the government. So whoever did the FOIA request should have sued to have he judge review the redactions. 9 times out of 10 the redactions were not justified.

Doing a Obama / Biden phone calls FOIA is a great idea, I dont think it matters if it comes back all black bars. You will get to see how Many, how Often, and how Long they are, and more importantly Who is doing most of the talking. I have a feeling those numbers would make your average person say WTF?!?! is going on.

In the CBS Hunter interview recently, he claimed his father calls him everyday, at least once a day and also calls all of their other family members everyday. Add in Obama and I am pretty sure his day is burned up without doing any of the countries business.

Doing a Obama / Biden phone calls FOIA is a great idea, I dont think it matters if it comes back all black bars. You will get to see how Many, how Often, and how Long they are, and more importantly Who is doing most of the talking. I have a feeling those numbers would make your average person say WTF?!?! is going on.

In the CBS Hunter interview recently, he claimed his father calls him everyday, at least once a day and also calls all of their other family members everyday. Add in Obama and I am pretty sure his day is burned up without doing any of the countries business.

Talking to his family every day sounds like a routine meant to keep him from forgetting who's who.

Doing a Obama / Biden phone calls FOIA is a great idea, I dont think it matters if it comes back all black bars. You will get to see how Many, how Often, and how Long they are, and more importantly Who is doing most of the talking. I have a feeling those numbers would make your average person say WTF?!?! is going on.

In the CBS Hunter interview recently, he claimed his father calls him everyday, at least once a day and also calls all of their other family members everyday. Add in Obama and I am pretty sure his day is burned up without doing any of the countries business.

Better than Trump going golf 

Biden's mind never worked very well even before he went senile. Now it is just a national embarrassment.

Talking to his family every day sounds like a routine meant to keep him from forgetting who's who.

Or a way to shoo White House Staff away. 'Go away, cant you see I am on the phone!'

Or a way to shoo White House Staff away. 'Go away, cant you see I am on the phone!'

Forgot to add "while holding a banana to his ear".

I've been asking myself several times:  why is gun control NOW a gigantic problem needing solving? 

The timing seems unfortunate for the Bidens, and this topic can't help but publicize his son's felonious purchase of a handgun and subsequent disposal of it in a trash dumpster near a school -- gun was found by a regular dumpster diver.

How can Joe push more laws to create instant criminals of law abiding gun owners when he refuses to have the Justice Department charge his son?

Not a good message to send -- same old message we keep hearing:  Laws only apply to the "little people".  Those of us in power .... not so much.

I decided on Friday since Biden is going to sign EO’s to ban certain items, it is my duty as an American to buy those things he intends to ban. So I had to buy a short barreled AR 9mm pistol with brace that takes Glock magazines.