I don't recall hearing him say one in the video but so much background noise I might not be able to hear it if he did.

No.  It's a fact.  If you have a problem with it, deal with the courts/justice system.

He did mention he shouted in the manner of : Stop. Please. Get Back.

But in my opinion it doesn't hold as much water as : Stop.  Or I'll Shoot.

And yes, I know I am on the outside looking in.  Easy to play armchair quarterback when one wasn't in that situation. 

Trying to understand just exactly what kind of threat Ashlee was posing in that scenario where she had to be shot and also trying to understand how DOJ and other agencies investigating came to their conclusion.

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how is it a fact if it wasn't proven in a court of law?
or consensus?
or wherever you moved the goalposts to today?

Context matters.

Someone primed the situation to create hysteria and panic for the security forces inside the Capitol that day.

Trump asked to have the National Guard activated to provide additional crowd control / security a few days before, Gen Milley denied the request.  (threat level increase)

FBI released a last second middle of the night vague warning of organized violence by unknown groups being imminent.  (threat level increase)

Then early in the morning reports that bombs were set around DC. ( massive threat level increase)

Ninjas were sent to multiple locations to cut the temporary fencing and the crowds start moving closer to the building. (threat level increase)

Someone orders Flashbangs and CS to get fired into the unmoving crowd. Which makes them start moving (threat level increase)

Someone orders guards to stand down at doors on one end of the building and let people in, (perimeter breach) (threat level increase)

While on the opposite side of the building Anti-fa folks are breaking windows and forcing doors (threat level increase)

I am sure radio chatter was a mess, spamming reports  of breaches and locations of crowds all over the building. I am sure the mentality was now that they were under siege.

Look at all the pics where they stacked chairs up against doors to make panicked barricades like tropes from a bad movie. A lot of those door didnt even have locks.

the IG report about that day after the fact severely criticized the CPD for not having done ANY planing, training or developed any strategic protocols for scenarios where crowds came into the building.

All this certainly made for a situation where I am sure more than some of the security in the building were sh*tting their pants and certain they were go down Benghazi style and their corpses were going to be dragged to the street and hung from light poles

To me it doesnt look at all like some random snowballing of events, more like someone was making sure a lot of boxes got checked to create a situation where deadly force would be used, legitimately or not.

He did mention he shouted in the manner of : Stop. Please. Get Back.

But in my opinion it doesn't hold as much water as : Stop.  Or I'll Shoot.

And yes, I know I am on the outside looking in.  Easy to play armchair quarterback when one wasn't in that situation. 

Trying to understand just exactly what kind of threat Ashlee was posing in that scenario where she had to be shot and also trying to understand how DOJ and other agencies investigating came to their conclusion.