don't contradict the forum SME...

Have you mentioned this to Zelenskyy?  You must know more about the conflict than he does.

i hate having to repeat myself.  Putin is less concerned about NATO than with Ukraine joining the EU.  NATO requires resources to support the collective military forces of NATO.  EU is more of a threat to Russia economically -- a long-term problem for Putin.

https://2ahawaii.com/index.php?topic=44573.msg492860;topicseen#msg492860

i hate having to repeat myself.

I totally agree with you; I find you repeating yourself equally annoying. 

Putin is less concerned about NATO than with Ukraine joining the EU.

Oh Really?  Hear from Putin himself.




Hear from American Professor Jeffrey Sachs' as well.

EU is more of a threat to Russia economically -- a long-term problem for Putin.

Interesting opinion, however, EU member states might decide to leave the sphere of the US empire themselves and join BRICS with the rest of the World in the near future as well.

Where did you find Russian objectives?

From Putin of course.

From Putin of course.

No. He doesn't state Russian objectives. Objectives are tied to effects.
As an "SME" you should understand Western policy making and how national policy affect levels down to the tactical level. Translate that concept to Russian policy design and explain how you extrapolated Russian objectives from a 3 minute speech about what Russia doesn't want in their backyard. He didn't answer how they will achieve deterrence. Objectives nest within national policy.

From Putin of course.

Not a syllable of that video mentioned war or Putin's objectives.  Just a tirade of how the countries the USSR once possessed are now joining the EU and placing DEFENSIVE missiles on their borders with Russia.

His objective is to disarm countries Russia may/will try to invade one day. 

There's not a single instance of those weapons "pointing at Russia" being used to start a war.  Maybe that's a more glaring point than "US Imperialism."

You can't shoot someone because they have a holstered weapon.  Shooting them because they are armed for self defense is no justification.

Sounds like you've swallowed Putin's propaganda.

I totally agree with you; I find you repeating yourself equally annoying. 

Funny how you don't care that you annoy others, but here you are complaining about being annoyed.  That's so YOU.   


Oh Really?  Hear from Putin himself.

Where did he say he was justified in ordering troops into Ukraine?  I must have missed it.


Hear from American Professor Jeffrey Sachs' as well.

Not an expert on National Security.  He's a climate change globalist. 

Quote

Sachs is co-founder and chief strategist of Millennium Promise Alliance, a
nonprofit organization dedicated to ending extreme poverty and hunger.
From 2002 to 2006, he was director of the United Nations Millennium
Project's work on the MDGs. In 2010, he became a commissioner for the
Broadband Commission for Sustainable Development, whose stated aim
is to boost the importance of broadband internet in international policy.[11]
Sachs has written several books and received several awards.

He has been criticized for his views on economics, on the origin of
COVID-19, as well as on the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[12][13]

Quote

In May 2022, Sachs said that the Russian invasion of Ukraine in February 2022
would be hard to beat and that Finland's moves to join NATO would undermine
a negotiated peace: "All of this talk of defeating Russia, to my mind, is reckless."[68]
In June 2022, he co-signed an open letter calling for a "ceasefire" in the war,
questioning Western countries' continuing military support for Ukraine.[69]

In 2022, Sachs appeared several times on one of the top-rated shows funded by
the Russian government, hosted by Vladimir Solovyov, to call for Ukraine to
negotiate and step away from its "maximalist demands" of removing Russia from
Ukrainian territory.[70]

Sachs has suggested that the U.S. was responsible for the sabotage of the Nord
Stream pipeline. In February 2023, he was invited by the Russian government to
address the United Nations Security Council about the topic.[71][25]

Sounds like Sachs is playing on Putin's team.  This is who you picked to support your opinions?  Tells us a lot about you.

Interesting opinion, however, EU member states might decide to leave the sphere of the US empire themselves and join BRICS with the rest of the World in the near future as well.

MDGs = Millennium Development Goals

No. He doesn't state Russian objectives. Objectives are tied to effects.
As an "SME" you should understand Western policy making and how national policy affect levels down to the tactical level. Translate that concept to Russian policy design and explain how you extrapolated Russian objectives from a 3 minute speech about what Russia doesn't want in their backyard. He didn't answer how they will achieve deterrence. Objectives nest within national policy.

Since you could have easily researched for yourself the goals and objectives of the Russian Federation with respect to the Ukrainian war, it appears to me that you are very disingenuous in your inquires.

For the sake of clarity, enjoy.

Funny how you don't care that you annoy others, but here you are complaining about being annoyed.

The only people that should be annoyed from my posts are imperialists, neocons, and anti-Constitutionalists when it comes to foreign policy, imperial invasions/annexations, and war.

Hence, someone like you should find my posts disturbing and stroke causing.   

Where did he say he was justified in ordering troops into Ukraine?  I must have missed it.

Listen to Putin's himself articulate the goals of the Ukrainian war.

Sounds like Sachs is playing on Putin's team.  This is who you picked to support your opinions?  Tells us a lot about you.

This kind of statement is what would be given by US imperialists and neocons when anti-imperialists and anti-neocons are discussing the Ukrainian war.

The fact your view of Professor Sachs, who is objectively sharing the Russian perspective and exposing the US empire's historical and ongoing involvement in the Ukrainian war, unashamedly echoes the same criticism given by US imperialists and neocons alike tells a lot about you as well.   

The only people that should be annoyed from my posts are imperialists, neocons, and anti-Constitutionalists when it comes to foreign policy, imperial invasions/annexations, and war.  IN YOUR OPINION.

Hence, someone like you should find my posts disturbing and stroke causing.   
Personal attack.  You have no idea what i'm like.  you only have a biased opinion since i challenge your conclusions and bloviating.


Listen to Putin's himself articulate the goals of the Ukrainian war.




This kind of statement is what would be given by US imperialists and neocons when anti-imperialists and anti-neocons are discussing the Ukrainian war.

The fact your view of Professor Sachs, who is objectively sharing the Russian perspective and exposing the US empire's historical and ongoing involvement in the Ukrainian war, unashamedly echoes the same criticism given by US imperialists and neocons alike tells a lot about you as well.   

'denazification', 'demilitarisation' and 'neutral status'

^^^^^
That's how Putin summed up his goals for the war.

Show where he mentions the US and NATO in his objectives -- which are part of his objectives according to you.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korean-troops-so-poorly-trained-that-putin-army-yet-to-throw-them-into-battle-say-western-officials/ar-AA1vliqD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0146ec6ed3434aee9d7ca7fd184a6469&ei=19

There was so much hoopla and hang wringing reports and articles about NK entering the war and fighting on the front lines.  Even articles showing drones hunting them down and destroying them.  Also articles about NK troops being used as cannon fodder and Kim Jong-Un was all pissed off and crap like that.  Desertion, defection, etc. etc.

Now this article says they haven't been used yet.  WTF.

And so much money being thrown into this war effort.  Billions.  Makes me wonder how much of it really is used in the war effort.

$37.63?  or maybe $38.43.  Wonder how true it is about Zelinsky having mansions all over the world.

Russia conducted a massive assault in the Kyiv region of Ukraine, prompting Poland to scramble it's jet fighters.

Yeah, the sanctions imposed on Russia by the West is working just fine. {sarc.}

Will China enter the war against Russia?  Russia still controls northern lands stolen from China.  Russia military is getting depleted while China continues to increase theirs.
That would be more epic than losing Syria.  As long as nuclear war doesn't breakout.

Will China enter the war against Russia?  Russia still controls northern lands stolen from China.  Russia military is getting depleted while China continues to increase theirs.
That would be more epic than losing Syria.  As long as nuclear war doesn't breakout.

As much as I want to cheer that on,  a stronger China with war experience is not what we need.   

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/north-korean-troops-so-poorly-trained-that-putin-army-yet-to-throw-them-into-battle-say-western-officials/ar-AA1vliqD?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=0146ec6ed3434aee9d7ca7fd184a6469&ei=19

There was so much hoopla and hang wringing reports and articles about NK entering the war and fighting on the front lines.  Even articles showing drones hunting them down and destroying them.  Also articles about NK troops being used as cannon fodder and Kim Jong-Un was all pissed off and crap like that.  Desertion, defection, etc. etc.

Now this article says they haven't been used yet.  WTF.

And so much money being thrown into this war effort.  Billions.  Makes me wonder how much of it really is used in the war effort.

$37.63?  or maybe $38.43.  Wonder how true it is about Zelinsky having mansions all over the world.

They started their first assault and got wiped.  Crazy they were just walking across an open field. 

They started their first assault and got wiped.  Crazy they were just walking across an open field.

Who is "they"?

Who is "they"?

North Korean troops

Will China enter the war against Russia?  Russia still controls northern lands stolen from China.  Russia military is getting depleted while China continues to increase theirs.
That would be more epic than losing Syria.  As long as nuclear war doesn't breakout.

As much as US imperialists and neocons alike would love Russia and China to have a war between themselves, both nations are not stupid as they both view the US empire as the number one enemy to their own nations as well as the stability of the free World.  Both Russia and China are the main drivers of BRICS and the Belt and Road initiative linking Eurasia economically which will also eventually lead to their own common currency.

The US empire is losing its proxy war against Russia and is so desperate that it's trying to start another color revolution in Georgia as well as empowering Islamic jihadists to Balkanize Syria knowing full well they will be screwed by them in the near future.

As much as I want to cheer that on,  a stronger China with war experience is not what we need.

China has never won a war.

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China has never won a war.

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Depends on how you define war. They are kicking our ass with fentanyl at the moment.

If Trump does not end the US imperial proxy war against Ukraine soon, please seriously consider signing up as Ukraine is desperately in need of soldiers especially if you support the neocon fight against Russia.