Ukraine vs. Russia (Read 311451 times)

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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1860 on: May 31, 2025, 01:26:30 PM »
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Be careful what you say because there is someone who sometimes chimes in and demands you show proof that Russia had already won the US empire's proxy war against Russia before it's SMO as I have similarly stated many times before.   :shaka:


Whether the Democrats take power after Trump's term or later do not matter.  The US empire's plan was always to smash Russia, China, Iran, and any other nation that wants to break out of its global geopolitical control.  Hence, Russia will continue hostilities in Ukraine geographically until it is strategically satisfied whether deal or no deal from Trump.


At long last, someone who understands the US empire is over and the only thing it can do is cut its loses and be part of the emerging multipolar World.

Unfortunately, I fear the oligarchs of the US empire will not accept the coming global reality and fade into the background but think they can restore their dominance by means of proxy or direct war among military peers with the hopes all economies except the US empire's is somehow still left standing so it can dictate to the World as it did in the aftermath of WWII.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1861 on: June 01, 2025, 12:17:11 AM »
Back when Putin was massing his forces at the borders of Ukraine and invasion seems eminent, I always held the view that this was the reason.  (Well, one of the main ones anyway.):

I blame all the asshats of the obama and biden (actually still obama) administrations for this.  It's gonna be a hard fix if it can be done at all.

Why do you think Putin always has that smirk on his face.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-nato-alliance-dream-is-dead/ar-AA1FPJXR?cmp_prftch=2&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=eeb61db564714a109c14468f70b933bc&ei=14


They did everything possible to antagonize Russia into invading.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1862 on: June 01, 2025, 06:46:02 AM »

They did everything possible to antagonize Russia into invading.
This is the greatest money laundering scheme in recorded history.

Yes, the Satanic globalists cannot have a strong independent Russia around.  It is a threat to them because they have no hegemony over it.

It was 100% provocation from the git go.

The fact that a globalist farm team - the Dems & deep state - made my country into the principle tool in the hands of EU totalitarians to prosecute this agenda, outrages me no end.

They are playing with WWIII, just to further their own brand of hell across the western world.

Getting peace here is analogous to diffusing a bomb that the bomber wants to go off In all conceivable cases.
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« Reply #1863 on: June 01, 2025, 08:13:22 AM »
Big ukraine drone hits in russian air bases. Up to 4000km into russia. 40 long range bombers damaged/desteoyed.

These drones were sitting in russia and waiting to be used for a year.

I wonder if this was part of the "no long range strikes" deal that was recently removed.


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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1864 on: June 01, 2025, 10:41:13 AM »
Big ukraine drone hits in russian air bases. Up to 4000km into russia. 40 long range bombers damaged/desteoyed.

These drones were sitting in russia and waiting to be used for a year.

I wonder if this was part of the "no long range strikes" deal that was recently removed.


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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1865 on: June 01, 2025, 11:19:49 AM »
Also, donning my Captain Obvious cape, it’s hard to see how Russia could be satisfied with a negotiated settlement that leaves all its opponents completely intact, i.e. status quo ante, after they’ve sustained such damage and loss of life and remain in the same relative peril as at the beginning.

Trump sounds as though that’s the outcome he’s seeking, and I could see Putin encouraging such expectations with an eye to getting NATO on strategically weaker ground post any deal, in the meantime.

Of course I have no idea what this could be.  Maybe pressuring NATO to crack, etc.

At any rate that’s my brain-addled guess as to why Russia is now slow walking “all of a sudden.”
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1866 on: June 01, 2025, 11:20:54 AM »
Well well

Look who met with Zelenskyy the day before the attack. Someone needs to get prosecuted for subverting the peace process.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5326749-graham-blumenthal-zelensky-ukraine-russia-sanctions/
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1867 on: June 01, 2025, 11:36:04 AM »
Well well

Look who met with Zelenskyy the day before the attack. Someone needs to get prosecuted for subverting the peace process.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5326749-graham-blumenthal-zelensky-ukraine-russia-sanctions/

Hmm,…Graham, Blumenthal & Zelinsky.

Must have met in a bathhouse.
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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1868 on: June 01, 2025, 06:22:25 PM »
It’s crazy how people are celebrating the Ukraine “victory”

Like none of them ever heard about Pearl Harbor
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1869 on: June 01, 2025, 06:39:11 PM »
It’s crazy how people are celebrating the Ukraine “victory”

Like none of them ever heard about Pearl Harbor

Well done!

You’re of course right.  Here comes WWIII… (wish there was a skull & crossbones emoji to insert here)
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1870 on: June 02, 2025, 06:47:54 AM »
We sent billions in aid in terms of equipment and yes, cash.  Not only to fight the war, but to keep Ukraine functioning as a nation.

Is there a way to find out how many pockets that aid and money went into?

Zelinsky, may I see your pockets?   ;)

Anyway, all that aid.........

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-grinding-down-ukraine-to-victory-right-before-our-eyes/ar-AA1FVBCz?cmp_prftch=2&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=d33290cc3c9b4d099f0463b8f379314a&ei=13
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« Reply #1871 on: June 02, 2025, 09:38:14 AM »
We sent billions in aid in terms of equipment and yes, cash.  Not only to fight the war, but to keep Ukraine functioning as a nation.

Is there a way to find out how many pockets that aid and money went into?

Zelinsky, may I see your pockets?   ;)

Anyway, all that aid.........

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-is-grinding-down-ukraine-to-victory-right-before-our-eyes/ar-AA1FVBCz?cmp_prftch=2&ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=d33290cc3c9b4d099f0463b8f379314a&ei=13

"The paper trail was destroyed when a building was hit by a Russian missile" would be the reply.

But a few months ago, Zelin did state that he doesn't know where half the money went.  There was no follow up on this.

changemyoil66

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1872 on: June 03, 2025, 08:56:14 AM »
We are learning more and more from the use of drones.

Since the early ones could be "jammed"(wireless), they now use fiberoptic cables to help stop this.  The battlefield is littered with these cables.

Drones can also land and go into hibernation mode to conserve energy.  Then activate and alert the controller when noise or movement is detected. They can have solar panels so they can stop and recharge and then continue on.

Thye are cheap to make and can be made easily. We have seen them being hillbilly rigged too.

The days of guided missiles are limited as they are much more expensive to make, harder to make, and need a place to launch and much easier to be seen prior to launch.

hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1873 on: June 03, 2025, 09:56:38 AM »
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1874 on: June 03, 2025, 10:06:22 AM »


been reloading that load for years....
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1875 on: June 03, 2025, 10:24:32 AM »
been reloading that load for years....

Didn’t know you live in Los Alamos …..



…. also, I don’t think that’s reloading  :-*

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hvybarrels

Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1876 on: June 03, 2025, 11:29:42 AM »
At first I kicked myself for picking up an s12 as a range toy
Now it’s set up for the scenario where tops start popping off containers down on sand island

The NATO morons just set a horrible precedent. Hostile nations are actively figuring out how to do this to us because we just told the rest of the world that it’s game on.
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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1877 on: June 03, 2025, 11:43:35 AM »
At first I kicked myself for picking up an s12 as a range toy
Now it’s set up for the scenario where tops start popping off containers down on sand island

The NATO morons just set a horrible precedent. Hostile nations are actively figuring out how to do this to us because we just told the rest of the world that it’s game on.

This was actually the primary motivation for my picking up a Benelli M4 last year.

Also, any civil conflict an American may face going forward will likewise involve the deployment of this technology against civilians, obviously.
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changemyoil66

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« Reply #1878 on: June 03, 2025, 03:37:51 PM »
This was actually the primary motivation for my picking up a Benelli M4 last year.

Also, any civil conflict an American may face going forward will likewise involve the deployment of this technology against civilians, obviously.

You should try skeet or trap shooting to give you an idea.  But keep in mind that this is from side to side. A drone may be coming straight at you, so it's harder to miss.

Also for open shoots by HRA, you can set up a paper target at various distances so you can see the spread patterns for buck and bird shot.  For 35 yards or so, bird shot opens up to the size of a human.

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Re: Ukraine vs. Russia
« Reply #1879 on: June 03, 2025, 04:01:22 PM »
You should try skeet or trap shooting to give you an idea.  But keep in mind that this is from side to side. A drone may be coming straight at you, so it's harder to miss.

Also for open shoots by HRA, you can set up a paper target at various distances so you can see the spread patterns for buck and bird shot.  For 35 yards or so, bird shot opens up to the size of a human.

Thanks dude! Used to shoot some clays back in college - really liked it a lot!

I believe there’s trap and skeet at Koko Head, but it’s really the case that I’m ignorant of training options for shotgunners around here.  Definitely need to fix that.
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