155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards (Read 16350 times)

drck1000

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2022, 08:53:07 AM »
Shux I sent my last 500 to a bradda big island not too long ago. I'll keep a look out n have a few friends on the mainland looking as well. Glad you get some bullets to keep you busy in the mean time  :D
Thanks!  Yeah, def keep me posted it you see anything.  I signed up on a bunch of sites and regularly check other sites that don't have notification.  Not a big deal, but those Bergers get really good reviews. 

808Hunta

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #41 on: July 08, 2022, 09:34:03 AM »
Thanks!  Yeah, def keep me posted it you see anything.  I signed up on a bunch of sites and regularly check other sites that don't have notification.  Not a big deal, but those Bergers get really good reviews.

No problem brother anytime! Yeah I use bergers in my .243, .257, .264 and .284 caliber cartridges

Will lyk if I get a lead on any my bradda! Have a good one

Aloha

Rhed

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #42 on: July 08, 2022, 10:08:34 AM »
Berger hybrid bullets, does those bullets need the vld type seating stem? I get one vld setting stem but for LE Wilson seater. I use it for the tmk’s.
Probably gonna start reloading this weekend. Gonna check the Petersons factory sizing on the Redding instant indicator. If is to saami, then I just gonna reload it from there just so I can fire form the first 50.

808Hunta

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #43 on: July 08, 2022, 10:34:55 AM »
Berger hybrid bullets, does those bullets need the vld type seating stem? I get one vld setting stem but for LE Wilson seater. I use it for the tmk’s.
Probably gonna start reloading this weekend. Gonna check the Petersons factory sizing on the Redding instant indicator. If is to saami, then I just gonna reload it from there just so I can fire form the first 50.

Howzit my bradda berger does recommend a vld seating stem for hybrids.  The hybrids have both tangent and secant ogives therefore they recommend using the vld seating stem.

Aloha

808Hunta

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #44 on: July 09, 2022, 05:54:35 AM »
Howzit bradda drck1000

I get 2 boxes 140 gr hybrids inbound lyk when I get em. Hope that helps get you started

Aloha

drck1000

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2022, 03:08:42 PM »
Howzit bradda drck1000

I get 2 boxes 140 gr hybrids inbound lyk when I get em. Hope that helps get you started

Aloha
Awesome!  Thank you so much!  Please let me know if you (or your buddies) have any needs as well. 

Rhed

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2022, 06:31:10 PM »
I no more 6.5 kine. But if you guys like try some of 155 Palma or 175 smk lmk. I also have a few Hornady 168 hpbt match too. I get Hornady reloading manual if you like me post the data. 1 more box of 500 pieces 168 gr smk. 77 gr tmk. Lmk you guys like try.

808Hunta

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #47 on: July 09, 2022, 06:44:09 PM »
Awesome!  Thank you so much!  Please let me know if you (or your buddies) have any needs as well.

Easy bradda no prob  :shaka: I will mahalo

808Hunta

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #48 on: July 09, 2022, 06:48:54 PM »
I no more 6.5 kine. But if you guys like try some of 155 Palma or 175 smk lmk. I also have a few Hornady 168 hpbt match too. I get Hornady reloading manual if you like me post the data. 1 more box of 500 pieces 168 gr smk. 77 gr tmk. Lmk you guys like try.

Mahalo for the offer bradda  :shaka:  appreciate ĺt

drck1000

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #49 on: July 09, 2022, 08:26:03 PM »
I too have a surplus of .30 cal bullets. If you folks want to try Hornady 168 gr ELD-Match, 168 gr SMK and Nosler Competition (same thing) and couple of different 175 gr Bergers, lust let me know. I also have a bunch of “just as good as 168 gr SMK” from Everglades as well.

I bought a variety to test and going with Berger 168 gr hybrids. Will likely use some of the 168 gr stuff for loading up come 30-06. Even after that, I have plenty extra.

808Hunta

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2022, 03:08:20 PM »
I too have a surplus of .30 cal bullets. If you folks want to try Hornady 168 gr ELD-Match, 168 gr SMK and Nosler Competition (same thing) and couple of different 175 gr Bergers, lust let me know. I also have a bunch of “just as good as 168 gr SMK” from Everglades as well.

I bought a variety to test and going with Berger 168 gr hybrids. Will likely use some of the 168 gr stuff for loading up come 30-06. Even after that, I have plenty extra.

Right on my bradda! Unfortunately I don't shoot much target shooting so mainly hunting bullets lol. But the bergers can do both as well as the sierras.  I use 180 hybrids in my larger 7mm's

Rhed

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #51 on: July 30, 2022, 11:03:53 PM »
Finally got time to go to my bench and start some. Well, all I did was open the box of 155 smk Palma. Just to check the uniformity.

Here’s a comparison between the 155 smk (#2156c) left and the 175 smk right. They almost look identical.


Notice the closed tip on the 155? Pretty slick..


Checked the weight on these just out of curiosity..



Checked BTO on some of the 155’s which is mmm not bad I guess.
First one I set at “0”



Bullet 1


Bullet 2


Bullet 3


Bullet 4






drck1000

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #52 on: July 31, 2022, 04:16:33 PM »
Rhed - That is one bada$$ setup you have (spying your bench).  With those scales and throwing setup and the Giraud trimmer.  Wow! 

I recently went with a AMP annealer and damn is that thing fast and super easy/convenient.  I am still trimming with a Wilson trimmer, but for the volume I do, it's ok.  Been eyeing the Giraud and (I forget the name, but it's red). 

I haven't done any bullet sorting, but I know some F-Class folks who sort by OAL within a given lot.  I don't even want to think about pointing.  haha

Rhed

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #53 on: July 31, 2022, 10:05:15 PM »
Yea the AMP. One of the best investments in my reloading bench. A must have, especially with quality brass. I have the Mark 1 version that I bought 5 years ago. Then just got the AZTEC upgrade when it released. Cost me less then 1k from brownells after some promo codes when they use to carry it. Cool, you must have the Mark 2 version. Faster, runs cooler, and already comes with AZTEC.
I don’t point my bullets. These 155’s 2156 already comes pointed from Sierra. I do want to experiment though one day. If you go with a Giraud trimmer, they sell the Meplat blades to use with the trimmer. I got one for .223 and .308. Just never got around to getting the pointer dies, https://bullettipping.com/products/bullet-tipping-die/ . Maybe time to try since we still slowly getting reloading components (primers and powders) coming in.. try pointing some 175 smk or 168 smk.

drck1000

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #54 on: August 01, 2022, 07:28:55 AM »
Yup. I have the Mark 2.  Once I got the settings, I can now anneal 50 cases in less than the time it would take me to setup the flame annealer.  I load at my buddy's shop, so I put everything away between sessions.  Setting up the flame annealer isn't difficult, but it does take time to dial it in just right.  Now, I can change from annealing .308 to 6.5 CM with about a handful of button presses.  Def well worth the investment. 

I decided to get one right in the middle of their dry spell.  I would have to get online just before noon (I forget what time zone) and have the order in my basket and ready to go.  Those suckers would sell out in minutes. 

I don't think I'll ever get to tipping bullets, but who knows.  I never thought I would have an AMP annealer. . . haha

Will check out the Meplat blades for the Giraud.  I now hvae 3 rifles to load for, so any efficiencies gained is more time shooting.  But also more components being used. . .  :(  Hopefully the component market continues to improve and we can get a decent hui for group buy.  Was talking to another shooting buddy the other day and think we have enough people.  Just need the suppliers to get enough supply.

Rhed

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #55 on: August 03, 2022, 01:15:01 PM »
Not really relevant to the subject, but thought I’d share my findings with Peterson compared to Lapua. I use Lapua or Nosler, and their pretty consistent. This is my first time using Peterson.Though all of that is a moot when one preps their own brass anyways.

.308 Peterson srp left, Lapua lrp right


Peterson


Lapua


Peterson


Lapua


Redding SAAMI spec case gauge


Case gauge set to zero


Peterson


Lapua


Forgot to add, these brass are brand new out of the box. No prepping..

Rhed

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2022, 10:09:56 PM »
Went to the range today to fire form only. It was a frustrating day at the range for me actually. My LabRadar was giving me issues in combination with the app always loosing connection. I did everything the night before, updated the firmware, connected my phone. Then all went to shits at the range. Then come to find out 20 something shots later, when I decided to turn off and turn on the LabRadar, it gave me a error of disk write protected of some sort. Pulled out the SD card to find out the lock on the side of the SD card does not want to stay on the open position, so each time when I put it in, it slides back to lock.. wt..  :wacko: Anyways I had to jimmy rig something to keep it open temporarily. I did manage to get some reads. By that time, I was frustrated as shit! So I was averaging 2850-2860 fps. There’s plenty of room yet for development, no pressure signs. I just loaded 46.4 gr of Varget. These are fire forming only. I think I can get it to 2900. If I can without too much pressure signs, I’ll be golden out to 1000- maybe 1200 yrds.

155 gr smk #2156
.308 SRP Peterson case ( no prepping done, reloaded out of the box, did put just a kiss of crimp using a taper crimp die, just in case)
46.4 gr Varget
CCI #450 SRP


5 shot groups





Development load I probably just gonna load in .2 (46.6, 46.8, and 47 maybe 47.2) 5 each. I’m thinking of also seeing what the 175’s will do so, I might do 20 of those too, but with XBR.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2022, 10:20:59 PM by Rhed »

drck1000

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #57 on: August 09, 2022, 01:24:48 PM »
Went to the range today to fire form only. It was a frustrating day at the range for me actually. My LabRadar was giving me issues in combination with the app always loosing connection. I did everything the night before, updated the firmware, connected my phone. Then all went to shits at the range. Then come to find out 20 something shots later, when I decided to turn off and turn on the LabRadar, it gave me a error of disk write protected of some sort. Pulled out the SD card to find out the lock on the side of the SD card does not want to stay on the open position, so each time when I put it in, it slides back to lock.. wt..  :wacko: Anyways I had to jimmy rig something to keep it open temporarily. I did manage to get some reads. By that time, I was frustrated as shit! So I was averaging 2850-2860 fps. There’s plenty of room yet for development, no pressure signs. I just loaded 46.4 gr of Varget. These are fire forming only. I think I can get it to 2900. If I can without too much pressure signs, I’ll be golden out to 1000- maybe 1200 yrds.

155 gr smk #2156
.308 SRP Peterson case ( no prepping done, reloaded out of the box, did put just a kiss of crimp using a taper crimp die, just in case)
46.4 gr Varget
CCI #450 SRP


5 shot groups


Development load I probably just gonna load in .2 (46.6, 46.8, and 47 maybe 47.2) 5 each. I’m thinking of also seeing what the 175’s will do so, I might do 20 of those too, but with XBR.
You use the disk? I have been using the built-in memory (or at least I assume).  Will see what happens if/when I exceed the data limits.  I keep a written log, but haven't thought about digital records. 

46.4 Varget at 2850 fps is zooming!

That is some good shootin'!  At least once you ironed out the horizontal dispersion on the second target pic.  ;D (kidding, kidding)

Do you have Ballistic-X?

Rhed

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2022, 02:56:42 PM »
Yea was a frustrating day. I think I have to delete my internal memory data. I haven’t done that since the last time I’ve used it. It only holds 100 shots, I think. I busy trying to get that LabRadar to wor mostly. And zeroing my scope too. But it’s ok, it was only fire forming. Just wanted to see what kind of speed I was getting. Hopefully I have time to go this weekend fine tune and do reload development. After this past shooting trip, decided to order a Piet Recoil Trigger for the LabRadar.  Should have done that before. Got a new SD card too.

drck1000

Re: 155 Palma (#2156) or 175 smk for 1000 + yards
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2022, 03:47:26 PM »
Yea was a frustrating day. I think I have to delete my internal memory data. I haven’t done that since the last time I’ve used it. It only holds 100 shots, I think. I busy trying to get that LabRadar to wor mostly. And zeroing my scope too. But it’s ok, it was only fire forming. Just wanted to see what kind of speed I was getting. Hopefully I have time to go this weekend fine tune and do reload development. After this past shooting trip, decided to order a Piet Recoil Trigger for the LabRadar.  Should have done that before. Got a new SD card too.
I have the JKL Precision trigger.  VERY helpful.  Eliminates or greatly reduces missed shots, or errors.  With the Impact Precision, I have to be a little careful as working the bolt in a certain way results in a trigger.  My Defiance actions, no problem.  I probably can adjust the setting for the Impact, but it hasn't bothered me. . . yet. 

Yeah, fighting your gear is n bueno.  I had a different USB battery that would shut off if there was a too long break between shots.  So I ended up missing shots or even strings here and there.  Super  :grrr:  A new USB battery pack and all was well again.  When I do my powder tests, a missed shot here and there will not be good.

Hope your next range session goes well!