Rules for thee but not for me Dem version (Read 8686 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2022, 11:13:56 AM »
If lying were a crime, the entire Congress would be in prison -- ESPECIALLY the lying bunch of Democrats.

Get a clue, brainiac. 

You make an accusation that Biden is somehow supposed to be cleaning up "Trump's mess," even though all the evidence shows he's just making it 100 times worse.

Then when I demonstrate this was NOT Trump's mess, you pivot and deflect about a non-existent kidnapping.

It's not a kidnapping when the people willingly get on the bus, train, plane...  Were all the people the Biden admin relocated also kidnapped?  Did they know 100% what to expect when they reached their destinations?  Highly doubtful, since most of those transports were moving in secrecy and under cover of darkness.  When the press tried to get close to interview the "immigrants," they were told by armed guards to leave the area.

Yeah.  Sounds more like a kidnapping the way the Biden people operate.

The next tactic that xhe will use  is to not reply at all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #41 on: September 19, 2022, 11:17:26 AM »
The next tactic that xhe will use  is to not reply at all.

I was rather enjoying not having this mosquito buzzing around the forum, sucking the life out of every thread with the anti-Trump, anti-Trump-supporter, Leftist BS talking points.

It was nice while it lasted.  Didn't waste any time reminding us what a trolling jerk xhe can be.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #42 on: September 19, 2022, 11:22:03 AM »
I was rather enjoying not having this mosquito buzzing around the forum, sucking the life out of every thread with the anti-Trump, anti-Trump-supporter, Leftist BS talking points.

It was nice while it lasted.  Didn't waste any time reminding us what a trolling jerk xhe can be.

Have you ever vistied the Occupy Democrats Twitter?  Pretty much every post is BS.  So if you see them drop some big info, it's most likely BS. 

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #43 on: September 19, 2022, 11:36:04 AM »
Have you ever vistied the Occupy Democrats Twitter?  Pretty much every post is BS.  So if you see them drop some big info, it's most likely BS.

I deleted all my social media accounts years ago.

You can't convince them they are doing a poor job of providing a fair and balanced platform for everyone when the current business model creates massive revenue for them.

Contacting sponsors of TV shows, newspapers and radio stations used to be an effective way of causing change with the purveyors of entertainment and news.  That's not as big a "stick" for the Right anymore, and the Left abuses it so much, sometimes it works in their favor -- sometimes it boomerangs back and hits them in the proverbial face!

Occupy was a failed movement.  Occupy Democrats?  I can only imagine......   :wacko:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #44 on: September 19, 2022, 11:46:15 AM »
I deleted all my social media accounts years ago.

You can't convince them they are doing a poor job of providing a fair and balanced platform for everyone when the current business model creates massive revenue for them.

Contacting sponsors of TV shows, newspapers and radio stations used to be an effective way of causing change with the purveyors of entertainment and news.  That's not as big a "stick" for the Right anymore, and the Left abuses it so much, sometimes it works in their favor -- sometimes it boomerangs back and hits them in the proverbial face!

Occupy was a failed movement.  Occupy Democrats?  I can only imagine......   :wacko:

I understand and have thought myself to ditch social media.  But I do get a lot of entertainment from them like vids/meme's.  I got my 1911 because I saw a pic of it on a Recon IG page and it looked super cool.

Then add in there are right/conservative and good press agencies still out there.  Example, if it were not for IG and me following Project V, I would not have know what they do.  I only found out about them cause another conservative page I follow mentioned them years ago.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #45 on: September 19, 2022, 03:24:03 PM »
Brainiac,

You need to educate yourself. If you lie or misrepresent facts and people are harmed it's a crime.  In this case referrals have already been made to the justice department for criminal investigation.

Please list the federal statute/s that makes lying which causes someone to get hurt a crime.

If you're going to pretend to be a lawyer, at least have enough pride to know what statutes you're talking about.

Then explain who was hurt by the lies.  The illegals?  Nope.  They got taken care of.  The residents of the recipient cities?  Nope.  They asked for this by declaring themselves "sanctuaries" for illegals.

#Braniac

Hint:

Not all falsehoods are lies.  The misrepresentation must be knowingly and willfully offered.  If they believe something is true, it's not a lie.

If engaged in a transaction in which you knowingly lie, you MIGHT be guilty of fraud.  Since you don't know exactly what was told to the illegal aliens being given free transport to sanctuary cities, you can't accuse anyone of fraud.

If they knowingly lied to a LE officer or other government official, depending on the situation, it MIGHT be considered perjury or "lying to a government agent."  Since the agents involved were part of the process, I don't think any of them were lied to.

There's no crime for generally lying regardless of the consequences -- only specific instances such as fraud, deceptive statements or lying to government officials.  All of that requires a knowledge the facts are false and were done to convince someone to do something they would not otherwise do. 

I think we all know the illegals were happy to be getting as far away from the Mexican border as possible.

« Last Edit: September 19, 2022, 03:42:35 PM by Flapp_Jackson »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #46 on: September 19, 2022, 04:03:18 PM »
NVM
looking back Martha's Vineyard CAN accommodate 50 more people...lookie here at Obama's backyard



« Last Edit: September 19, 2022, 06:00:38 PM by ren »
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #47 on: September 19, 2022, 05:37:50 PM »
stop derailing

Help me out here.

The title is about the hypocrisy of the Dems.

The OP is an example of the hypocrisy of one Dem politician whose guns were stolen.

Since about the 3rd post, other examples of hypocrisy have been posted, including the Dems crying about and calling out the National Guard over illegals being dumped on their doorsteps -- same thing they've been doing to every other state that just accepts them and eats the cost.

Seems on-topic to me.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #48 on: September 19, 2022, 06:02:28 PM »
Please list the federal statute/s that makes lying which causes someone to get hurt a crime.

If you're going to pretend to be a lawyer, at least have enough pride to know what statutes you're talking about.

Then explain who was hurt by the lies.  The illegals?  Nope.  They got taken care of.  The residents of the recipient cities?  Nope.  They asked for this by declaring themselves "sanctuaries" for illegals.

#Braniac

Hint:

Not all falsehoods are lies.  The misrepresentation must be knowingly and willfully offered.  If they believe something is true, it's not a lie.

If engaged in a transaction in which you knowingly lie, you MIGHT be guilty of fraud.  Since you don't know exactly what was told to the illegal aliens being given free transport to sanctuary cities, you can't accuse anyone of fraud.

If they knowingly lied to a LE officer or other government official, depending on the situation, it MIGHT be considered perjury or "lying to a government agent."  Since the agents involved were part of the process, I don't think any of them were lied to.

There's no crime for generally lying regardless of the consequences -- only specific instances such as fraud, deceptive statements or lying to government officials.  All of that requires a knowledge the facts are false and were done to convince someone to do something they would not otherwise do. 

I think we all know the illegals were happy to be getting as far away from the Mexican border as possible.
Dayyymmmmmmmnnnn. Someone just got schooled again. Facts vs. feelings/regugitation/talking points.

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ren

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #49 on: September 19, 2022, 06:09:26 PM »
DeSantis wasn't the first person to do this, he did get them to a nicer place though!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-admin-again-flying-migrants-who-cross-border-one-place-n1271211

The Biden administration is restarting what are known as “lateral flights,” in which migrants crossing into the U.S. from Mexico in one area are transported to another part of the border and often sent back into Mexico from there, according to two immigrant advocacy groups familiar with the government’s decision.

So was Biden "kidnapping" these poor illegals?

https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/biden-is-hiding-illegal-immigration-with-secret-flights/

The Biden administration doesn’t want media attention on illegal immigration, its open border policies, or the results of those policies. How do we know? A security officer just said so, in an explosive video of secretive, dark-of-night flights transporting illegal immigrants to various points throughout the US.
Gee I wonder where these migrants went? Apparently not Martha's Vineyard
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ren

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #50 on: September 19, 2022, 06:15:50 PM »
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/rep-matt-loprestis-drunk-driving-case-dismissed-with-prejudice/article_ce0f8864-2f35-11ed-84e0-7fd1bdd73411.html

Hawaii Rep. Matt LoPresti is off the hook for drunk driving after an Oahu judge granted LoPresti's motion to dismiss the case for lack of probable cause. The police report says Ofc. Mariah Ah Tou transported LoPresti to the Kapolei Police Station. Ah Tou said: "During the transport, I could smell the odor of an alcoholic type beverage within the vehicle. Once LoPresti departed out of my vehicle and upon my return, the odor of an alcoholic type beverage could no longer be detected."

LoPresti later agreed to take a blood test, and a blood sample was taken from him about three hours after he was arrested. Police did not release the results of that test.

LoPresti was charged with OVUII, a misdemeanor, and he was released after posting $500 bail.

he did issue a statement right after he was arrested: "On the advice of counsel, we are not making any statements at this time. We are in the process of conducting our own investigation and hope to make a statement in the upcoming weeks."

LoPresti, a Democrat, represents District 41

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changemyoil66

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #51 on: September 20, 2022, 09:25:52 AM »
DeSantis wasn't the first person to do this, he did get them to a nicer place though!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/biden-admin-again-flying-migrants-who-cross-border-one-place-n1271211

The Biden administration is restarting what are known as “lateral flights,” in which migrants crossing into the U.S. from Mexico in one area are transported to another part of the border and often sent back into Mexico from there, according to two immigrant advocacy groups familiar with the government’s decision.

So was Biden "kidnapping" these poor illegals?

https://nypost.com/2022/01/27/biden-is-hiding-illegal-immigration-with-secret-flights/

The Biden administration doesn’t want media attention on illegal immigration, its open border policies, or the results of those policies. How do we know? A security officer just said so, in an explosive video of secretive, dark-of-night flights transporting illegal immigrants to various points throughout the US.
Gee I wonder where these migrants went? Apparently not Martha's Vineyard

This fits the title, rules for thee and not for me.

ren

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2022, 09:42:40 AM »
You can build a seawall if you are a Dem - climate change doesn't phase them one bit

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10481075/Scowling-Obama-inspects-new-multi-million-dollar-Hawaii-mansion-controversial-sea-wall.html

Construction has been mired in controversy because the project used a planning loophole to retain a sea wall that is almost certainly causing beach erosion.

https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/10/03/hawaii-news/seawall-expansion-along-property-tied-to-former-president-obamaruns-into-strong-opposition/

Plans to overhaul a seawall to protect a Waimanalo property with ties to former President Barack Obama ran into public opposition on Friday, with the Oahu chapter of the Surfrider Foundation going so far as to advocate for the complete removal of the wall so that the beach could be restored.


But if you are a local homeowner trying to save your property

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2022/04/18/north-shore-homeowner-faces-fines-his-efforts-save-home-erosion/

The state is eyeing hefty fines against a North Shore homeowner who moved tons of sand on the beach fronting his property in a bid to protect his and his neighbors’ homes.

Todd Dunphy said he had little choice but to take matters into his own hands.
In February, Dunphy pleaded with DLNR Chair Suzanne Case for permits to protect his home.
“It makes them look ridiculous. They’re fining a property owner who is trying to save his home? It’s ridiculous. They all should be fired,” said Dunphy.
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ren

Re: Rules for thee but not for me Dem version
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2022, 09:46:11 AM »
Dems don't care about your ancestors

https://www.thedailybeast.com/unearthed-human-remains-cause-stir-at-hawaiian-property-with-obama-ties

The treatment of Native Hawaiian remains at a new development project with ties to President Barack Obama has stirred up controversy between developers and the native population. Workers unearthed human remains in January at a multimillion-dollar oceanfront project that is set to become a luxury compound and is being developed by Obama Foundation chair Marty Nesbitt. The bones, discovered where the developers planned to put a swimming pool and a septic system, were initially stored in a filing cabinet where they were wet and grew black mildew, according to activist Kamuela Kala‘I. They were reburied months later in a different location. “All over the place, our kupuna, somehow it is OK to sacrifice them for the sake of buildings and cesspools and swimming pools,” said Kala‘I, a member of the Waimanalo Native Hawaiian community. “It’s not OK. It’s not OK. I will say that until the last breath in my body can say it.”
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