Tulsi Gabbard loves guns? (Read 33051 times)

changemyoil66

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #160 on: October 21, 2022, 01:37:15 PM »
Her father Mike jumped fences couple of times.  That's why I will wait and see.  Seems to run in the blood.

Yes, 1 year he voted to support a mag ban. The next year he voted against a mag ban.

changemyoil66

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #161 on: October 21, 2022, 01:38:43 PM »
I haven't checked in many months... what's his party affiliation at the moment?

DNC. He is in the senate, which only has 1 GOP Kurt Favela (Ewa Beach).  Both are on the same committee. Kurt is a reliable pro 2a senator.

QUIETShooter

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #162 on: October 21, 2022, 01:46:35 PM »
Mike Gabbard is a Democrat Senator.  Since 2007.  Prior he was GOP from 2004 to 2007.  And was an Independent prior to 2004.

 
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #163 on: October 21, 2022, 02:05:15 PM »
Trump used to be a Democrat as well as other affiliations.

Quote
Donald Trump registered as a Republican in Manhattan in 1987; since that time, he has
changed his party affiliation five times. In 1999, Trump changed his party affiliation to the
Independence Party of New York. In August 2001, Trump changed his party affiliation to
Democratic. In September 2009, Trump changed his party affiliation back to the Republican
Party. In December 2011, Trump changed to "no party affiliation" (independent). In April 2012,
Trump again returned to the Republican Party.[4]

In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more
as Democrat", explaining: "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats
than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems
that the economy does better under the Democrats...But certainly we had some very good
economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster
under the Republicans."[5] In a July 2015 interview, Trump said that he has a broad range of
political positions and that "I identify with some things as a Democrat."[4]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump

Every four years, the National Committees of the Republican and Democrat parties hold conventions and decide on the parties' platforms.  Some years, the issues and positions change dramatically.  Those changes can alienate party members if they don't agree with the changes.

When politicians say, "My party left me," that's a likely factor.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Rocky

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #164 on: October 21, 2022, 03:47:09 PM »
Or even just a detailed written statement to the legislature on how many of the Hawaii laws are unconstitutional and ought to be remedied ASAP by the legislature (e.g. mag capacity limits, carry license "requirements", etc., etc., etc.).
This is gonna be good.

Why don't you just ask her ?

https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard
or
https://www.tulsigabbard.com/contact/
“I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made.”
                                                           Franklin D. Roosevelt

changemyoil66

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #165 on: October 21, 2022, 04:19:41 PM »
Why don't you just ask her ?

https://twitter.com/tulsigabbard
or
https://www.tulsigabbard.com/contact/
I posted a comment asking. I also saw others asking the same.

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hvybarrels

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #166 on: October 21, 2022, 10:04:09 PM »
Maybe a lot of us should ask

Like all at the same time
Sharing is caring, but forced redistribution is communism.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #167 on: October 21, 2022, 10:28:18 PM »
Maybe a lot of us should ask

Like all at the same time

Has anyone actually tried to reach out to her to set up a 2A Town Hall type get together?  Maybe at the range ... well, one that's not closed at the moment?

A little food, some shooting, some friendly competition, and a little talk-story-time afterward.

Isn't that the aloha spirit way of welcoming someone to your "community?"

Sugar, not vinegar.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

macsak

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #168 on: October 23, 2022, 12:09:37 PM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #169 on: October 23, 2022, 01:50:29 PM »
She's obviously saying what she said in that video just to line her pockets with advertiser's dollars from her podcast.

For those who take everything literally: 

/sarcasm!!!!!!/
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

robtmc

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #170 on: October 23, 2022, 07:20:47 PM »
A little food, some shooting, some friendly competition, and a little talk-story-time afterward.
Just make sure the shooting toys include AR-class stuff.

After all, she has claimed superb knowledge of the platform, right?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #171 on: October 23, 2022, 08:29:09 PM »
Just make sure the shooting toys include AR-class stuff.

After all, she has claimed superb knowledge of the platform, right?

According to her Huckabee interview, the Bruen decision was an eye-opener for her.  She gets the 2A now, and that the right to keep and bear arms is not something the government has the right to infringe upon.  I'm thinking having a stalker and now not being provided free armed security wherever she goes likely plays into her attitude adjustment, too.  Just guessing, but that would be good to ask her.

It does sound like she's changed her core belief of how 2A works, and why government isn't supposed to be the gatekeeper of what arms "the people" may use to defend against a tyrannical government.  Maybe a less-well-written opinion in Bruen wouldn't have had the same effect.  Who knows?

When you are in the military, you get accustomed to rules and regulations that tell you everything you can and can't do.  I think she was in that mindset when it came to not allowing individuals, but rather the government, to decide how to defend ourselves and with what firearms.

That's what I took away from the things she said.   

I'm simply thinking of how we can try to put her past in the past and honestly give her a chance to help the 2A going forward. 
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

oldfart

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #172 on: October 23, 2022, 09:21:28 PM »
According to her Huckabee interview, the Bruen decision was an eye-opener for her.  She gets the 2A now, and that the right to keep and bear arms is not something the government has the right to infringe upon.  I'm thinking having a stalker and now not being provided free armed security wherever she goes likely plays into her attitude adjustment, too.  Just guessing, but that would be good to ask her.

It does sound like she's changed her core belief of how 2A works, and why government isn't supposed to be the gatekeeper of what arms "the people" may use to defend against a tyrannical government.  Maybe a less-well-written opinion in Bruen wouldn't have had the same effect.  Who knows?

When you are in the military, you get accustomed to rules and regulations that tell you everything you can and can't do.  I think she was in that mindset when it came to not allowing individuals, but rather the government, to decide how to defend ourselves and with what firearms.

That's what I took away from the things she said.   

I'm simply thinking of how we can try to put her past in the past and honestly give her a chance to help the 2A going forward.
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Yeah, that's what I saw in the interview too.
What, Me Worry?

aieahound

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #173 on: October 23, 2022, 09:45:49 PM »
She was a LAWMAKER !
Only Now she gets it ?

Has anyone actually tried to reach out to her to set up a 2A Town Hall type get together?  Maybe at the range ... well, one that's not closed at the moment?
A little food, some shooting, some friendly competition, and a little talk-story-time afterward.
Isn't that the aloha spirit way of welcoming someone to your "community?"
Sugar, not vinegar.

Funny.
I’ve NEVER seen YOU at one of our get togethers.  ???
Set up a get together with Tulsi Flapp. A bunch of us would show up and she can shoot almost anything legal she wants when the range opens.
Never gonna happen because you would never try to set it up. You’re only lip action. Just an observation, not an attack.
Zippz or CMO or O.F. Might do it, but you wouldn’t show up anyway. Bet dollar.

Good idea though.
No Mo’ range for now.  :(
But a GTG with Tulsi would be great. Set it up Flapp.  :rofl: :crazy:
« Last Edit: October 23, 2022, 09:53:21 PM by aieahound »

groveler

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #174 on: October 24, 2022, 05:12:58 AM »
She was a LAWMAKER !
Only Now she gets it ?

Funny.
I’ve NEVER seen YOU at one of our get togethers.  ???
Set up a get together with Tulsi Flapp. A bunch of us would show up and she can shoot almost anything legal she wants when the range opens.
Never gonna happen because you would never try to set it up. You’re only lip action. Just an observation, not an attack.
Zippz or CMO or O.F. Might do it, but you wouldn’t show up anyway. Bet dollar.

Good idea though.
No Mo’ range for now.  :(
But a GTG with Tulsi would be great. Set it up Flapp.  :rofl: :crazy:
If I thought you guys would show up,
I'd  try to set it up on the un-official county
sanctioned range on Saddle road.
Meaning the cops won't mess with you.
However that is a little to brutally wild for most urban
shooters.
The shooters are the RSO's
Standard Hunter Etiquette  and safety rules are the only rules.
Might scare you city boys.
Besides Mauna Loa is acting up.
 :shaka:


 

QUIETShooter

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #175 on: October 24, 2022, 07:17:38 AM »
I see Tulsi as a person that adapts to the winds of change.  And opportunity.

She is likable, beautiful, intelligent, and full of conviction and she is skilled at conveying and convincing others likewise.

But that's the thing.  Her convictions change like how a storm changes the desert's landscape.
 
In a way this describes 99% of our politicians.  Yet in a way Tulsi stands out from the rest.

Trump and Tusli on the 2024 ticket.  Wow.  Now that would be something.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

oldfart

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #176 on: October 24, 2022, 08:04:01 AM »
I see Tulsi as a person that adapts to the winds of change.  And opportunity.
She is likable, beautiful, intelligent, and full of conviction and she is skilled at conveying and convincing others likewise.
Trump and Tusli on the 2024 ticket.  Wow.  Now that would be something.
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I would vote Tulsi for pres and Trump for VP. :rofl:
She has a calm demeanor, and also intelligent, articulate, and physically attractive.
That checks all the boxes for me.
People rag on her political past, but we have all done stupid things in the past, right?
What, Me Worry?

macsak

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #177 on: October 24, 2022, 08:59:29 AM »
there's a thread in the "jacket" section with links if you are interested...

changemyoil66

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #178 on: October 24, 2022, 09:20:13 AM »
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People rag on her political past, but we have all done stupid things in the past, right?

Since she burned us in the past, IMO she has to prove herself a lot more before getting my support. She is getting closer since she talked about how HPD would have denied her CCW.  And she has been speaking out against other stuff as well.  No politician will have 100% of my support as it is human nature to not see eye to eye on every single issue.  So it would all depend on who she's running against.  But I think she's done with running for anything.  She seems to be enjoying life.

What is being shown is how maybe she had to keep her mouth shut about many issues to stay in line with the party.  Which is BS also.  Be a free speaker.  This show the control parties have in politics, which is a bad thing.

rpoL98

Re: Tulsi Gabbard loves guns?
« Reply #179 on: October 24, 2022, 01:04:54 PM »
Has anyone actually tried to reach out to her to set up a 2A Town Hall type get together?  Maybe at the range ... well, one that's not closed at the moment?

A little food, some shooting, some friendly competition, and a little talk-story-time afterward.

Isn't that the aloha spirit way of welcoming someone to your "community?"

Sugar, not vinegar.
I don't think she's in lovely Hawaii anymore, moved to the mainland a while ago.  I guess she might come "home" once in a while to visit family, who knows.  seems like Hawaii is distantly in her rear-view mirror, fading.