Big difference between spying on another country with surveillance and other methods that gather intelligence versus infiltrating the government to include congress, universities that conduct research for businesses and the government (i.e. military) and other deeply embedded spies.

Good point.

However, do you really believe the spies of the US empire have not done the same in China, Russia, Iran, and most recently Ukraine?  Take the US funded National Endowment for Democracy that has been linked to the many color revolutions over the years and specifically the political turmoil in Hong Kong.  And let's not get started of how the US empire's intelligence apparatus infiltrated Ukraine, installed a puppet government, and currently wage a proxy war with Russia.

Then there's the influence China enjoys by paying the former VP's / current President's son.

That's not spying as much as influencing the decision makers of the nation regarding foreign policy and technological intellectual property.

The fact that you raise regarding Biden's son says more to how corrupt the Power Okole and ultrawealthy of the US empire has become to the point of betraying their fellow citizens rather than the clandestine activities of China.

How sad the current state of affairs the oligarchs of the US empire have become. 

The fact that you raise regarding Biden's son says more to how corrupt the Power Okole and ultrawealthy of the US empire has become to the point of betraying their fellow citizens rather than the clandestine activities of China.

Six of one, half a dozen of another. The CCP exploited our treasonous oligarchs who gladly went along with he plot, and now millions are dead and billions more are slowly dying from bio weapon attacks.

Six of one, half a dozen of another. The CCP exploited our treasonous oligarchs who gladly went along with he plot, and now millions are dead and billions more are slowly dying from bio weapon attacks.

If what you say is 100% true, what do you advocate be done to all those treasonous American oligarchs from Fauci, Soros, Gates, Rockefellers, etc. that effectively control all the levers of power in the US empire?

If what you say is 100% true, what do you advocate be done to all those treasonous American oligarchs from Fauci, Soros, Gates, Rockefellers, etc. that effectively control all the levers of power in the US empire?

If this were ever to happen and go the way of the court system, I see a replay of the 1945 Nazi trials.  The judges were mostly former Nazi party members and didn't lay the hammer just in case they too were tried later for being part of the party.  Talk about stacking the deck.

Of the 400,000 remaining Nazi military members when WW2 ended, like only 2400 were convicted of war crimes.  Of which about 90% got less than a 5 year jail sentence.  Most were like 1-2 years.

If what you say is 100% true, what do you advocate be done to all those treasonous American oligarchs from Fauci, Soros, Gates, Rockefellers, etc. that effectively control all the levers of power in the US empire?

Y'all continue not to"Get it".
They aren't the problem, the people( Democrats) that support them are.
One of the few things I somewhat agree with Bill Gates on is de-populate.
Guess what kind of people that is?
It sure isn't people that produce tangible, needed products.
It will be government, artists, lawyers, social workers, and such
kind of workers, the kind that provide wanted, not needed functions.
Who needs a movie, or a facebook account?
 

If this were ever to happen and go the way of the court system, I see a replay of the 1945 Nazi trials.  The judges were mostly former Nazi party members and didn't lay the hammer just in case they too were tried later for being part of the party.  Talk about stacking the deck.

Of the 400,000 remaining Nazi military members when WW2 ended, like only 2400 were convicted of war crimes.  Of which about 90% got less than a 5 year jail sentence.  Most were like 1-2 years.

Are you talking about the Nuremberg Trials?  If so, do you have a source for your claim that “the judges were mostly former Nazi party members”?

Are you talking about the Nuremberg Trials?  If so, do you have a source for your claim that “the judges were mostly former Nazi party members”?

Easy enough to find the answer:

The Nuremberg Judges

Each of the four Allied countries that had formed the International Military Tribunal -- the
United States, France, Great Britain, and the Soviet Union -- provided one judge and one
alternate for the court that convened in the fall of 1945.

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/nuremberg-judges/

Are you talking about the Nuremberg Trials?  If so, do you have a source for your claim that “the judges were mostly former Nazi party members”?

End of Schindlers list mentions it, extended version. Spielbergs shenen-something org via USC.

It wasnt nuremberg.

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Y'all continue not to"Get it".

They aren't the problem, the people (Democrats) that support them are.

So, using your logic, Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet, Pol Pot, and every other bloodthirsty dictator in history are not to blame for their atrocities committed to those they slaughtered during their reign.  It was their own people that were responsible and should be held accountable for whatever genocidal acts or crimes against humanity those leaders committed.

Hence, like in the case of the illegal annexation of Hawaii by the US empire in 1898 and the illegal war in Iraq in 2003, it was not the fault of the Republican Presidents McKinley and Bush, respectively, that were responsible, but the Republican constituency that supported and voted them to power.

I'll make sure at least all Hawaiians get it right and direct their collective hate, accordingly.   

One of the few things I somewhat agree with Bill Gates on is de-populate.  Guess what kind of people that is?

It sure isn't people that produce tangible, needed products.  It will be government, artists, lawyers, social workers, and such kind of workers, the kind that provide wanted, not needed functions.

It is really amazing how you are so easily able to justify human genocide in this day and age.   

It is really amazing how you are so easily able to justify human genocide in this day and age.   

The CCP is committing genocide right now against ethnic Muslims yet you seem perfect fine with that.

Kinda says a lot about your “Hawaiian” values

Btw Mao was the worst mass murderer of all time, although Xi seems to want to give him a run for his money with the current global biological warfare campaign.

The CCP is committing genocide right now against ethnic Muslims yet you seem perfect fine with that.

Other than what the US imperial mainstream media spews, there is no real evidence of genocide among the Muslim minorities in China.

In my own many travels to China, I have personally spoken to many common, not US imperial paid shills, Tibetans, Muslims, etc. and they all share how surprised to hear of their own people being subjected to genocide.

Kinda says a lot about your “Hawaiian” values.

What about your values and sense of justice?

I don't see you calling for the US empire's immediate de-occupation of Hawaii as prescribed by US Constitutional law as many Hawaiian nationals proscribe.

Btw Mao was the worst mass murderer of all time, although Xi seems to want to give him a run for his money with the current global biological warfare campaign.

You don't know the whole story regarding Chairman Mao and time period that he had to operate to be qualified to make judgements about him.  I could similarly say the same thing about the US Presidents during the 19th century who oversaw the systematic genocide of the Native American people during America's pre-imperial push to occupy and claim all of the West for themselves.

As for President Xi, you make it sound like he was the actual alleged perpetrator that created and released Covid-19 to the World.

Xi is not perfect in the least, but nor is Trump or any other World leader for that matter also.  Moreover, China still is poised to become the greatest economic power in the World that the people of China will all benefit as with those other nations that are part of China's Belt and Road Initiative, BRICS, and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which is largely due to Xi's leadership and the CCP.

Is it because of this fact that I shared above about Xi, the CCP, the rise of China, and the birth of a truly Multipolar World that has gotten you and all the other anti-Chinese Americans so disturbed?  If so, then it becomes more transparent that China's human rights record and accusations of ethnic genocide are nothing but a racist pretext for policies to derail China's return to a historical World power.

Other than what the US imperial mainstream media spews, there is no real evidence of genocide among the Muslim minorities in China.

In my own many travels to China, I have personally spoken to many common, not US imperial paid shills, Tibetans, Muslims, etc. and they all share how surprised to hear of their own people being subjected to genocide.


What about your values and sense of justice?

I don't see you calling for the US empire's immediate de-occupation of Hawaii as prescribed by US Constitutional law as many Hawaiian nationals proscribe.


You don't know the whole story regarding Chairman Mao and time period that he had to operate to be qualified to make judgements about him.  I could similarly say the same thing about the US Presidents during the 19th century who oversaw the systematic genocide of the Native American people during America's pre-imperial push to occupy and claim all of the West for themselves.

As for President Xi, you make it sound like he was the actual alleged perpetrator that created and released Covid-19 to the World.

Xi is not perfect in the least, but nor is Trump or any other World leader for that matter also.  Moreover, China still is poised to become the greatest economic power in the World that the people of China will all benefit as with those other nations that are part of China's Belt and Road Initiative, BRICS, and the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, which is largely due to Xi's leadership and the CCP.

Is it because of this fact that I shared above about Xi, the CCP, the rise of China, and the birth of a truly Multipolar World that has gotten you and all the other anti-Chinese Americans so disturbed?  If so, then it becomes more transparent that China's human rights record and accusations of ethnic genocide are nothing but a racist pretext for policies to derail China's return to a historical World power.

What a load of horseshit!

What a load of horseshit!

Have you been to China and, if so, how many times?

Have you ever spoke to common Chinese people living in China about their government and their nation's rise to a World power?

Or, do you get what you know about China from the US imperial anti-China mainstream media outlets as well as people who are clearly anti-China?