HPD issuing any CCW permits? (Read 44419 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2023, 10:06:56 AM »
They are employing a tactic I call "Discourage, Frustrate, and Delay."

You call them, they say you didn't sign this or that.  Then you call again and it's something else.  On and on and on.

They're going full court press on this.  Not only did they succeed in making the CCW permit worthless as a wooden penny, but they also probably put the most disorganized, inept, and scatterbrained person in charge of CCW approval.

All of this my opinion, of course.  But I've seen these tactics employed before.

Our Mayor doesn't "condone" carrying firearms in public.

“We’re not a gun carrying society and we’re not gonna do anything that’s gonna condone that,” Blangiardi said.

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condone
verb [ T ]
UK  /kənˈdəʊn/ US  /kənˈdoʊn/
 
to accept or allow behaviour that is wrong:

- If the government is seen to condone violence, the bloodshed will never stop.

In our government's mind, anyone carrying a firearm in public is a criminal.  These new laws are simply "gotchas" designed to catch as many people with CCW licenses as they can so peaceful gun owners can be stripped of their license and 2A rights.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2023, 10:40:24 AM »
A buddy who applied back in Feb got notification of approval this past week. So hang in there fellas.

QUIETShooter

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2023, 11:00:15 AM »
Our Mayor doesn't "condone" carrying firearms in public.

“We’re not a gun carrying society and we’re not gonna do anything that’s gonna condone that,” Blangiardi said.

In our government's mind, anyone carrying a firearm in public is a criminal.  These new laws are simply "gotchas" designed to catch as many people with CCW licenses as they can so peaceful gun owners can be stripped of their license and 2A rights.

I definitely remember him saying this.  And I will definitely remember with my vote if or when he seeks other office or re-election.

This coming from someone who thought he was the better choice vs. Amemiya.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

QUIETShooter

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2023, 11:07:15 AM »
A buddy who applied back in Feb got notification of approval this past week. So hang in there fellas.

Interesting.  Based on feedback on this forum there are members who applied earlier and are still waiting.  As far as I know they haven't been informed why or only find out discrepancies when they call in to inquire.

If there is some kind of hold up for whatever reason they should be notified.  If they are being notified, then I retract my statement however this doesn't seem to be the case with some members.  They applied earlier than Feb.

And then again there is only one guy processing these permits.  Or so I've heard.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

RSN172

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2023, 11:36:04 AM »
Quote from: QUIETShooter link=topic=49718.msg456602#msg456602

And then again there is only one guy processing these permits.  Or so I've heard.

Slow worker. Should be able to process around least one per hour.
Happily living in Puna

changemyoil66

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #85 on: July 16, 2023, 12:02:14 PM »
A buddy who applied back in Feb got notification of approval this past week. So hang in there fellas.
Got 2 friends submitted last week of jan still waiting. Both had to come back 12 weeks after initial drop off due to "missing" stuff.

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stangzilla

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #86 on: July 16, 2023, 02:01:18 PM »
Process 1 app, then its plate lunch time, then its take a break for the rest of the day
That's a hard days work.
Life is tough
But who cares
We checked the box
We are box checkers after all
Great job! Wooooo!!  :rofl:

stangzilla

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #87 on: July 16, 2023, 02:05:20 PM »
Still waiting
I expect to wait a very long time
Bend over and take it
What other option do I have
Lucky we live Hawaii
Land of the oppressed and the best police force money can buy.
I already accept that we are all screwed

Flapp_Jackson

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #88 on: July 16, 2023, 02:13:10 PM »
Process 1 app, then its plate lunch time, then its take a break for the rest of the day
That's a hard days work.
Life is tough
But who cares
We checked the box
We are box checkers after all
Great job! Wooooo!!  :rofl:

That, or maybe;

New application -- start on first page.
Missing a copy of something -- put in in the stack to contact applicant.
Missing a signature -- put in in the stack to contact applicant.
Guy who contacts applicants for missing stuff comes in on Wednesdays for half a day.  Makes calls and leaves.  If he's on vacation, the applications sit in his box another week or two.
Once all required forms and signatures are submitted, request background check info from HMOs, doctors, health dept, FBI, criminal records division, etc.
Now wait indefinitely until those agencies and businesses respond. 
Once all responses are received, do a complete review of all paperwork.  If anything needs remedying, put it in the Wednesday guy's in-box.
Once the discrepancies are corrected, do another full review, start to finish, in case you missed something in the previous reviews.  If you find any "new" problems previously overlooked, it goes back into the Wednesday guy's pile.
If all is completed, send the application to the Police Chief for final review and approval/rejection.  Wait indefinitely for the application to be returned.

That's what I'm envisioning anyway.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #89 on: July 16, 2023, 02:16:15 PM »
Posted in the wrong thread.  Ignore.  Nothing to see here...nothing to see.

QUIETShooter

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #90 on: July 16, 2023, 03:29:49 PM »
Still waiting
I expect to wait a very long time
Bend over and take it
What other option do I have
Lucky we live Hawaii
Land of the oppressed and the best police force money can buy.
I already accept that we are all screwed

Great attitude stang! :shaka:  Although I detected a bit of sarcasm in your post I don't blame you one bit.  I hope you get your notification to go pick up your permit soon.  And this goes for all the others who have been waiting for so long.

And for all of the people who supported and succeeded in enacting these ridiculous and violation of rights gun control measures I hope you and your loved ones do not fall victim because of the very laws you have pushed.  Even wild animals will bite your hand off in your effort to feed them when they're hungry.  Just like criminals, they do not discriminate.  All are fair game.

Except it looks like they (criminals) seem to hold an advantage.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

stangzilla

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #91 on: July 16, 2023, 04:30:10 PM »
Great attitude stang! :shaka:  Although I detected a bit of sarcasm in your post I don't blame you one bit.  I hope you get your notification to go pick up your permit soon.  And this goes for all the others who have been waiting for so long.

And for all of the people who supported and succeeded in enacting these ridiculous and violation of rights gun control measures I hope you and your loved ones do not fall victim because of the very laws you have pushed.  Even wild animals will bite your hand off in your effort to feed them when they're hungry.  Just like criminals, they do not discriminate.  All are fair game.

Except it looks like they (criminals) seem to hold an advantage.

Yes. You are correct. Theres a lot of sarcasm in my post. I dont know what else to do but try and find some humor. Although I'm crying inside  :'(

stangzilla

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #92 on: July 16, 2023, 04:33:50 PM »
If i didnt have family obligations keeping me here, I would move to Arizona or some other free state a long time ago. Maybe when I retire I'll move to someplace where I can shoot in my backyard and race my Mustangs at a local track. The 2 things that matter the most to me I cant do here. But maybe one day.....

RSN172

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #93 on: July 16, 2023, 05:16:28 PM »
If i didnt have family obligations keeping me here, I would move to Arizona or some other free state a long time ago. Maybe when I retire I'll move to someplace where I can shoot in my backyard and race my Mustangs at a local track. The 2 things that matter the most to me I cant do here. But maybe one day.....
Can do both Hilo side of the BI.   I shoot in my back and front yard and my friend races his 68 SS427 on the drag strip in Hilo.
Happily living in Puna

changemyoil66

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #94 on: July 16, 2023, 08:26:56 PM »
Great attitude stang! :shaka:  Although I detected a bit of sarcasm in your post I don't blame you one bit.  I hope you get your notification to go pick up your permit soon.  And this goes for all the others who have been waiting for so long.

And for all of the people who supported and succeeded in enacting these ridiculous and violation of rights gun control measures I hope you and your loved ones do not fall victim because of the very laws you have pushed.  Even wild animals will bite your hand off in your effort to feed them when they're hungry.  Just like criminals, they do not discriminate.  All are fair game.

Except it looks like they (criminals) seem to hold an advantage.
U missed the ET interview with "the veteran". Went something along the lines

"I explained the importance of the work do to my daughter and she values it".  (With regard to taking peoples 2a right away)

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groveler

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #95 on: July 16, 2023, 08:47:07 PM »
Can do both Hilo side of the BI.   I shoot in my back and front yard and my friend races his 68 SS427 on the drag strip in Hilo.
Ren refers to me as living in "green acres".
I too can shoot in my yard but don't,  as I don't want to scare my animals
or my neighbors animals.
Cows will go through or over a 4 foot fence like it isn't there.

Many of my neighbors don't bother to go to the Hilo track,
they use the main road.
After 1930 hours the cops dispatch out of Hilo some 50 miles away but they have more important
things to deal with than street racers.
Guys that live here locally, have to interrupt dinner.
If there isn't anybody hurt or dead it can wait.
 :shaka:


stangzilla

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2023, 01:40:59 PM »
Got my letters of approval for 2 pistols today. Picking up the permits this week

QUIETShooter

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2023, 01:47:26 PM »
Got my letters of approval for 2 pistols today. Picking up the permits this week

Glad to hear this! :thumbsup:
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

stangzilla

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2023, 05:51:46 PM »

Fia

Re: HPD issuing any CCW permits?
« Reply #99 on: July 23, 2023, 09:42:49 PM »
Got my letters of approval for 2 pistols today. Picking up the permits this week

When did you submit your applications if I may ask?