"Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind (Read 14322 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #60 on: September 13, 2023, 10:58:36 PM »
again. All you dumb tools who think it is OK for this kind of label is the reason why NM's governor suspended the 2a. You guys think the short game while they are thinking the long game. Absolute nonsense.

Do you have any evidence that calling things a GVI is part of their long game?

ren

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #61 on: September 14, 2023, 07:10:18 AM »
Do you have any evidence that calling things a GVI is part of their long game?

This is too long and complicated for this forum. I'll be at the gun show this month if you want to have a debate or I'll be at the range this weekend. Maybe we should have a table like Louder With Crowder.

"Labeling Gun Violence is Dumb - change my mind"



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changemyoil66

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #62 on: September 14, 2023, 08:29:40 AM »


I was saying that homicide is not specific enough because it doesn't tell you whether it was a murder, an accident, or a justified killing, or whether a firearm was involved.

Here is my bottom line, I would not use GVI as a describing term but I won't complain if others do because I don't believe it is some lefty conspiracy to control language and scare people away from guns. If you can find evidence that it is one of their psychological tactics then I will reconsider.

Logic states it. Is there any evidence that calling assault rifles or high capacity magazines is a lefty conspiracy? Logic.

Give stuff a good name to push agendas. Affordable care act is another. Everytown for gun safety, moms demand action, etc...

Imagine if their name was "moms taking away the 2nd amendment" or "everytown to take a right away".

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macsak

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #63 on: September 14, 2023, 09:18:38 AM »
"inflation reduction act"


Logic states it. Is there any evidence that calling assault rifles or high capacity magazines is a lefty conspiracy? Logic.

Give stuff a good name to push agendas. Affordable care act is another. Everytown for gun safety, moms demand action, etc...

Imagine if their name was "moms taking away the 2nd amendment" or "everytown to take a right away".

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changemyoil66

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #64 on: September 14, 2023, 10:38:52 AM »
"inflation reduction act"

Buuurrrnnnnnnn

Flapp_Jackson

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #65 on: September 14, 2023, 11:24:54 AM »
"inflation reduction act"

Biden signs gun safety bill into law
Quote
The legislation, which passed the House 234-193 Friday night following Senate approval
Thursday, includes incentives for states to pass so-called red flag laws that allow groups
to petition courts to remove weapons from people deemed a threat to themselves or others.

In addition, the bill expands an existing law that prevents people convicted of domestic abuse
from owning a gun to include dating partners rather than just spouses and former spouses.

It also expands background checks on people between the ages of 18 and 21 seeking to
buy a gun.
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/25/1107626030/biden-signs-gun-safety-law

Apparently "gun safety" is synonymous with "gun confiscation & purchase denial."
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #66 on: September 14, 2023, 02:16:51 PM »
This is too long and complicated for this forum. I'll be at the gun show this month if you want to have a debate or I'll be at the range this weekend. Maybe we should have a table like Louder With Crowder.

"Labeling Gun Violence is Dumb - change my mind"



Just to clarify, I am not saying it isn't possible. I understand the possibility and the suspicion , I just wouldn't claim it is so as a statement of fact

ren

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #67 on: September 14, 2023, 02:21:10 PM »
Just to clarify, I am not saying it isn't possible. I understand the possibility and the suspicion , I just wouldn't claim it is so as a statement of fact

Where did I state that it was a fact? I said "thinking"
Gun show is Sept 30 - Oct 1.
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macsak

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #68 on: September 14, 2023, 02:37:19 PM »
goalposts moved...

Just to clarify, I am not saying it isn't possible. I understand the possibility and the suspicion , I just wouldn't claim it is so as a statement of fact

changemyoil66

Re: "Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind
« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2023, 04:38:23 PM »
goalposts moved...
F22 whoop whoop

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oldfart

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2023, 06:03:57 PM »
Where did I state that it was a fact? I said "thinking"
Gun show is Sept 30 - Oct 1.
...
Maybe I should assign the tables so you guys can sit next to each other for 2 days. :rofl:
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changemyoil66

Re: "Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind
« Reply #71 on: September 14, 2023, 06:09:01 PM »
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Maybe I should assign the tables so you guys can sit next to each other for 2 days. :rofl:
Sell tickets to watch and have the tourettes guy officiate.

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ren

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #72 on: September 14, 2023, 06:44:51 PM »
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Maybe I should assign the tables so you guys can sit next to each other for 2 days. :rofl:

a long time ago..
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changemyoil66

Re: "Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind
« Reply #73 on: September 15, 2023, 11:23:37 AM »
Brady foundation was once known as Gun Control Inc.

The anti 2a orgs changed their words from gun control to gun violence

*Mark W. Smith, 4 Boxes Diner.

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: "Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind
« Reply #74 on: September 15, 2023, 11:29:17 AM »
Brady foundation was once known as Gun Control Inc.

The anti 2a orgs changed their words from gun control to gun violence

*Mark W. Smith, 4 Boxes Diner.

Don't forget "Common Sense," as they associate that with gun laws and gun reform.

If these people really advocated for common sense, they would stop what they are doing and advocate for stricter law enforcement and penalties for anyone using guns unlawfully.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: "Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind
« Reply #75 on: September 15, 2023, 11:41:50 AM »
Don't forget "Common Sense," as they associate that with gun laws and gun reform.

If these people really advocated for common sense, they would stop what they are doing and advocate for stricter law enforcement and penalties for anyone using guns unlawfully.
And there are people who believe "common sense" gun laws work, even though they have no clue what said law is.

But, maybe im wrong as there is no proof or studies showing the phrase common sense gun laws are anti 2a. (Sarcasm).

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Flapp_Jackson

Re: "Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind
« Reply #76 on: September 15, 2023, 01:33:24 PM »
And there are people who believe "common sense" gun laws work, even though they have no clue what said law is.

But, maybe im wrong as there is no proof or studies showing the phrase common sense gun laws are anti 2a. (Sarcasm).

There are so few examples today of people exercising common sense, it's understandable that some people get confused as to its real meaning.  People (no one on this forum, of course) think they can spin vocabulary and change the meanings of words to suit their narrative as long as it's technically not wrong.

In absence of concrete and objective examples, they can get away with calling anything they believe in as "common sense," especially when their efforts are in direct opposition to the Constitution and Natural Rights.  They tried preaching "Roe v. Wade" is the "law of the land" to force acceptance, but somehow the Constitution and 2A are outdated and need changing.

The Left wouldn't recognize common sense even if it showed up with 3 forms of ID.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #77 on: September 15, 2023, 07:16:25 PM »
Where did I state that it was a fact? I said "thinking"
Gun show is Sept 30 - Oct 1.
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I didn't say that you said that, I was saying this generally to anyone who is making such a claim

eyeeatingfish

Re: now its "Gun violence incident"
« Reply #78 on: September 15, 2023, 07:16:38 PM »

ren

Re: "Gun violence incident" term is dumb - Change my mind
« Reply #79 on: September 17, 2023, 08:46:59 AM »
I was at the range yesterday...
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