Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally (Read 31975 times)

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2024, 09:56:36 AM »
you actually think that someone was able to intentionally graze his ear from 150+ yards away?
got it...

As a Hawaiian national looking from the outside, I look at the Trump shooting as a last warning to both Trump and Kennedy to either accept a staged Presidential election defeat, do the bidding of the Power Okole should either overcome the widespread cheating and win the 2024 Presidential election, or be assassinated for failure to do so that of course will be blamed on Russia and/or China. 

While most are focusing on the "officially recognized" deceased patsy who did his role and now taking the blame, I truly believe the real shooter did exactly as ordered: fire off a few rounds of credible misses but deliver the actual warning shot that grazed Trump.  Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy assassinations in the 1960's, no one will be able to debunk the current evolving Trump assassination attempt narrative until after the current adult population and everyone involved are long dead.

In any case, the Power Okole has endless pasties and real assassins on-call to take both Trump and Kennedy out.  Trump is still alive only because the Power Okole allowed him to live...

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2024, 10:11:04 AM »
As a Hawaiian national looking from the outside, I look at the Trump shooting as a last warning to both Trump and Kennedy to either accept a staged Presidential election defeat, do the bidding of the Power Okole should either overcome the widespread cheating and win the 2024 Presidential election, or be assassinated for failure to do so that of course will be blamed on Russia and/or China. 

While most are focusing on the "officially recognized" deceased patsy who did his role and now taking the blame, I truly believe the real shooter did exactly as ordered: fire off a few rounds of credible misses but deliver the actual warning shot that grazed Trump. Unfortunately, like with the Kennedy assassinations in the 1960's, no one will be able to debunk the current evolving Trump assassination attempt narrative until after the current adult population and everyone involved are long dead.

In any case, the Power Okole has endless pasties and real assassins on-call to take both Trump and Kennedy out.  Trump is still alive only because the Power Okole allowed him to live...

It'a a little early to be drinking so heavily, don't you think?

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2024, 10:21:34 AM »
you actually think that someone was able to intentionally graze his ear from 150+ yards away?
You actually think that deceased young patsy was able to get on a roof undetected and have enough firearms training to even graze Trump at 150+ yards away?
Got it...

Kuleana

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #23 on: July 14, 2024, 10:23:07 AM »
It'a a little early to be drinking so heavily, don't you think?
I don't drink but understand the treachery of the Power Okole and their handywork all too well.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #24 on: July 14, 2024, 10:25:56 AM »
You actually think that deceased young patsy was able to get on a roof undetected and have the firearms training enough to even graze Trump at 150+ yards away?
Got it...

Apparently what actually happened based on observable events
and what you seem to believe happened
are not in the same realm of possibility.

I'll choose Occam's Razor for $1000, Alex.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2024, 10:29:07 AM »
I don't drink but understand the treachery of the Power Okole and their handywork all too well.

We understand you don't live in the really real world, so i was being polite -- attributing your nonsense to an alcoholic halucination.

Now you've just confirmed you're hallucinating all on your own.  That's much worse.

Please seek professional help before you've completely checked out.

 :crazy:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #26 on: July 14, 2024, 10:30:33 AM »
There's a problem with the aiming for the ear theory.  Sure if you pull it off Trump will get more votes.  However there's a fairly significant downside in that you can kill the person you're depending on.  Not to mention killing innocents in the background along with yourself.

In the conditions he was in, he probably had an accuracy of four inches at best.

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #27 on: July 14, 2024, 10:32:59 AM »
please show me where i said anything like that...

You actually think that deceased young patsy was able to get on a roof undetected and have enough firearms training to even graze Trump at 150+ yards away?
Got it...

macsak

QUIETShooter

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #29 on: July 14, 2024, 10:43:45 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gRZLBWkNY2M

She's right.

And she looks absolutely gorgeous as she's saying it.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #30 on: July 14, 2024, 10:44:49 AM »

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #31 on: July 14, 2024, 11:27:16 AM »
The very first question to ask is what was the sniper team that took out the shooter watching such that the shooter was able to get on that roof with a rifle in hand?  Was there an accomplice creating a diversion that made them take their eyes off the shooter's location?

He may or may not have gotten on the roof easily.  Need to wait to find out how he was able to get up there without adequate resistance from security people or measures.  Did he pick a lock?  Scale a wall?  Was he already up there hiding when the rally started?  Does a family member with keys to the building work there?

If I were Trump, i'd make the report public ASAP, just to show he's either well protected, or his protection detail needs better training/people.

A cynical man would say this is what happens when a deep state run White House is in charge of the people providing security for the man they helped lose an election once already.


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #32 on: July 14, 2024, 11:45:18 AM »
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

zippz

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #33 on: July 14, 2024, 11:46:42 AM »
The very first question to ask is what was the sniper team that took out the shooter watching such that the shooter was able to get on that roof with a rifle in hand? 

From what I've read, the snipers are primarily responsible for threats farther out with their 36x scopes.  They have a very large area to observe.  It would've also been difficult for the snipers to see the guy approach from behind the buildings.  It would've been local law enforcements responsibility to patrol the area.

Although the shooter was unfortunately able to get some shots off, the snipers did end the threat and their presence likely caused him to miss.

News says a police officer confronted the shooter on the roof before the shots were fired, but jumped off when shooter turned his rifle towards the officer. Seems like a breakdown in communication from that.
« Last Edit: July 14, 2024, 11:57:41 AM by zippz »

QUIETShooter

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #34 on: July 14, 2024, 12:35:15 PM »


News says a police officer confronted the shooter on the roof before the shots were fired, but jumped off when shooter turned his rifle towards the officer. Seems like a breakdown in communication from that.

In my opinion that police officer might just have saved President Trump's life.  The distraction caused the shooter to lose focus.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

macsak

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #35 on: July 14, 2024, 12:39:50 PM »
nope, shot grazed trump on purpose...

In my opinion that police officer might just have saved President Trump's life.  The distraction caused the shooter to lose focus.

hvybarrels

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #36 on: July 14, 2024, 12:55:05 PM »
Alex Jones is now saying that there will be an assassination attempt on Biden next, and they will try to make it look like it was MAGA.

The "staged" theory is being circulated to distract from the very real possibility that some of Trump's Secret Service detail were accomplices to the failed hit job.

If Trump makes it to the presidency then hundreds of deep state criminals are going to be looking at very long prison sentences if not outright execution for treason, therefore it's in their best interest to sew chaos so that the election doesn't happen.

This is not a time to celebrate
Stop blaming lazy people. We didn’t do anything.

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2024, 08:04:32 AM »
This was an inside job, They've tried for years to "get him" starting with libel and slander. That failed, so they tried racism. That failed. They escalated it to the corrupt judicial system. Going after his "friends"/allies first. They still had nothing. So then they went after him in the judicial system. They still had nothing, so they had to change the law, find a corrupt DA and judge in a corrupt state. He still was beating them and the outcome they wanted wasn't a "slam dunk". So what happened is the only logical next evolution.

Points below:

1) The SS use layers of protection. Each team is responsible for their sectors.  As you saw with the SS sniper on the roof, due to the scope he has, he's for 400m+ engagements. Which is why you see him have to raise his head to located a 150m threat and then reposition his rifle.

2) Multiple people called out guy on roof with rifle and nothing was done to address it in an urgent matter.  They let him get into position. There's rumors that a stand down order was given. Even if this is true, it's the duty of the counter sniper to disobey and engage. I mean, it's not like a random guy is walking around. A guy with a rifle is getting into a shooting position.

3) There are a lot of female SS for a former president and the top candidate.  DEI hires, since the head of the SS did state that she wants more women in the SS. Nevermind we want just good people, but it has to also be women.  You see 1 fail to holster her weapon multiple times. She then gave up. And they were also in panic mode when around his SUV. This is not SOP for the SS. They are supposed to take control of the situation and remain calm.  . A female SS agent who is a whole head shorter than the P. I mean, I'm sure there's supposed to be some height requirment depending on who the P is. You see her try to cover him and his entire head is exposed in her sector.  She then bends down to pick up his hat and exposing his entire body. I've seen older films of Carter and Reagan and they were much more professional.

4) Once Trump was covered by the SS when he hit the floor, the media boosted the mic. You hear trump ask for his shoes. I heard no SS voices. "Sir, we will get your shoes later". this is important because someone who was just shot may not be thinking clearly.  Once he can walk, they allowed him to remain on stage for way to long. A 223 will penetrate at least 1 agent and hit the P. Any higher caliber round would def penetrate multiple agents and hit the P. Trump wanted to stay on stage, but as the detail, you need to push his ass off stage to safety. Regardless if the radio said the shooter is down. What if there's more than 1, or that was an error. Once he's standing, he should have been off that stage in 2 seconds.  The reaction time was also a little slow once the first shot broke. Within 1-2 seconds, agents should have been on stage.

5) Back to the SUV, it should have left immediately. There should have been a clear exit path.

6) Why was the only structures that close left unsecure?  Local PD could have been patrolling it if SS resourses are too low.

7) This was the 2nd time Trump asked for more security but was denied. The 1st time was on J6 and Pelosi denied it.

Seems like the only guy who did his job was the sniper with the big ass scope. He broke off his sector as no one was watching the 150m roof top. Re-position his rifle and take the shot.

I had this discussion with EEF a few days ago, and it seems like his detail was the JV squad.  I think this was intentional as to give the shooter time and the best odds of success.  The various government agencies have been weaponized against Trump for years. The SS is no different.  But in the end, no one will be held accountable and face any sort of punishment.

I"m not a religious person, but I do think a higher power had his back.  1/2 a second later and he would have not just been hit on the ear.  That head turn made all the difference. 

The sad part is that they will try again, but on a more covert way.  We are becoming more and more of a communist country as political opponents are being targeted by the government agencies.  The illusion that we have rights is present and the government can swoop in and take them away at any moment. "I'll fight them in court and win", but at what cost. The process is the punishment.
« Last Edit: July 15, 2024, 08:39:54 AM by changemyoil66 »

changemyoil66

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #38 on: July 15, 2024, 09:44:59 AM »
New intel:

There wasn't that many SS agents on site. The others you see are Treasury Agents. Which would explain a lot.  The most hated man in the US by the left has minimal SS agents.

They also were tracking the shooter from 300 yards out, but lost him when he went into a building. 

QUIETShooter

Re: Former President Trump, shot on stage at a rally
« Reply #39 on: July 15, 2024, 10:45:08 AM »
I think it is becoming more and more apparent that SECRET SERVICE means something entirely different now.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.