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If you want to stuff one inside your pants, have at it…

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If you want to stuff one inside your pants, have at it…

You have to weight the "what ifs". What distance would you engage at where a micro vs full size or like would make a difference.  If you go by FBI stats, there's the 7 yards thing.  At that distance, the size doesn't matter much. But extend that out to 20 yards +, then rapid fire there would be a difference.  But my RDS helps mitigate that since my VP9 has irons and my Shield plus (micro) has RDS.

At 15 yards, I'd say that I shoot both my VP9 and Shield Plus the same for rapid fire. Had I had a RDS on my VP9, then I might be able to shoot that faster due to the pick up being faster with a RDS for me.

The CCW test I took here, I scored 100% on both guns.  Both were pretty much golf ball grouping until the 15yrd mark. Then it was grapefruit IIRC grouping.  I think I posted the pick of the target in another thread. I can't remember where. So this is how I base my above, plus open shoots in the bays where you can rapid fire.  Even though the CCW test has a max time, i finished well before it. So it's not like I slow fired.  I would say I did at a pace that I know I can control. Years of open shoots taught me "know your limits".

So in the end, since I shoot both well, it's def easier to carry a smaller pistol.  Comfort wise.  I used to CCW my VP9 in Vegas all the time until I got my Shield since HI began issuing CCW's.  Some people don't carry cause it's not comfortable, so if you're one of these types of people, then getting a smaller pistol is better than not carrying at all.

Mag size isn't too much of an issue since HI only allows 10rds. Many max out at 10 or you could buy an extension to get you to 10rds. I also posted about this when weighing my options in another CCW thread. Sorry, can't remember which one. I think the G43 has like a 6rd cap, which is too low for me. But the G43X holds 10rds.

I never seriously considered jumping through CCW hoops because I didn't feel threatened where I live.
But I get the feeling that things are changing in my area...and not for the better.
 

Shot a modified (guud enuff) Dickens Drill with the ported 48 and did 10/10 in around 11 seconds.  This was the first I've shot the ported 48 further than around 25 yards and was pleasantly surprised.  Shot with the magwell and grip felt solid even at that distance.  Is that realistic for a SD scenario?  Who knows, but good to have some variety in training.  Not under "real" stress, but shooting with your buddies on a timed course of fire was challenging. 

I never seriously considered jumping through CCW hoops because I didn't feel threatened where I live.
But I get the feeling that things are changing in my area...and not for the better.
 

you never know
better to have and not need, than to need and not have

I never seriously considered jumping through CCW hoops because I didn't feel threatened where I live.
But I get the feeling that things are changing in my area...and not for the better.
 

CCW is for the stuff you can't predict.

Better to be prepared before the bad happens.

How many people invest in a home security system AFTER they are victims of a break-in?  All too common.  Closing the barn door after the horses are gone.

you never know
better to have and not need, than to need and not have

I don't carry most days because firearms not allowed where I work.  I used to evaluate based on perception, which I definitely can say it's changing.  For Hawaii CCW, I primarily got it out of principle.  To be (better) determine for myself if/when I carry.  Yeah, still getting approval from HPD via the process, but it was more about my choice vice conditions dictating (at least for me). 

Shot a modified (guud enuff) Dickens Drill with the ported 48 and did 10/10 in around 11 seconds.  This was the first I've shot the ported 48 further than around 25 yards and was pleasantly surprised.  Shot with the magwell and grip felt solid even at that distance.  Is that realistic for a SD scenario?  Who knows, but good to have some variety in training.  Not under "real" stress, but shooting with your buddies on a timed course of fire was challenging.

Since you've already jumped thru the permit to acquire hoops, what's 1 more?  At least the CCW last 4 years now, vs. the 1 year when they were 1st issued.

Shot a modified (guud enuff) Dickens Drill with the ported 48 and did 10/10 in around 11 seconds.  This was the first I've shot the ported 48 further than around 25 yards and was pleasantly surprised.  Shot with the magwell and grip felt solid even at that distance.  Is that realistic for a SD scenario?  Who knows, but good to have some variety in training.  Not under "real" stress, but shooting with your buddies on a timed course of fire was challenging. 

Since you've already jumped thru the permit to acquire hoops, what's 1 more?  At least the CCW last 4 years now, vs. the 1 year when they were 1st issued.

What?  Did you mean to respond to my post about CCW application? 

I actually used the CCW application process to justify buying another pistol, actually two more haha.  Current plan is to do the CCW process again for two other pistols about 2 years in.  Which made it a "convenient" justification for essentially duplicate CCW guns (2x 17.5 and 43x and 48).