Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump (Read 49780 times)

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #280 on: August 14, 2025, 03:57:28 PM »
How many election cycles have we heard the Democrats lie about Social Security benefits being cut massively if a Republican is in office?

Well, Trump just announced 275,000 illegal aliens were kicked off Social Security benefits.

Seems like fighting fraud to this degree would help the Social Security system survive as well as increase benefits to those who legally deserve it and reduce paycheck deductions for workers.

Trump touts eye-popping number of illegal migrants
and dead Americans he's kicked off Social Security

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15001701/trump-number-illegal-migrants-dead-americans-social-security.html



Trump just canceled 6,000 social security numbers for illegals, too.



DOGE reports illegal migrants getting
taxpayer-funded benefits like Medicaid


The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #281 on: August 25, 2025, 01:28:23 PM »
New XO about burning the American flag and 1 year in jail.

What you do on your property, I consider free speech.  What you do on a public sidewalk is a fire hazard.  Goes for any item being burned.

I didn't read the XO, so IDK what it fully says. Just going off the headlines.

macsak

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #282 on: August 25, 2025, 01:36:46 PM »
cool story, bro...

New XO about burning the American flag and 1 year in jail.

What you do on your property, I consider free speech.  What you do on a public sidewalk is a fire hazard.  Goes for any item being burned.

I didn't read the XO, so IDK what it fully says. Just going off the headlines.

hvybarrels

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #283 on: August 25, 2025, 07:12:25 PM »
New executive order!

All MP5s sold in the US come stock with FRTs now.

Okay it's not true, but we are still one step closer to living the dream someday.

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #284 on: August 26, 2025, 11:11:31 PM »
New XO about burning the American flag and 1 year in jail.

What you do on your property, I consider free speech.  What you do on a public sidewalk is a fire hazard.  Goes for any item being burned.

I didn't read the XO, so IDK what it fully says. Just going off the headlines.

Here is the order.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/prosecuting-burning-of-the-american-flag/
The argument the XO makes is that it may incite violence and riot. That isn't going to hold much water under the Brandenberger test though.

I agree with you, the only way any prosecution for flag burning would be by making it about something else. Theft and damage to someone else's flag or fire hazard type crime, etc.

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Teichi

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #285 on: August 27, 2025, 07:21:14 AM »
The way I interpret this XO is if you are a US Citizen and it is your personal flag or a flag given to you for your use, then you have a 1st amendment right to do what you want with that flag. You cannot take it from someone else's property and desecrate it. If you are a foreign national and desecrate the US flag, you may be impriso ed and/or deported. It makes sense to me.

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #286 on: August 27, 2025, 08:34:31 AM »
The way I interpret this XO is if you are a US Citizen and it is your personal flag or a flag given to you for your use, then you have a 1st amendment right to do what you want with that flag. You cannot take it from someone else's property and desecrate it. If you are a foreign national and desecrate the US flag, you may be impriso ed and/or deported. It makes sense to me.

Permanent residents do not have all the "rights" that US Citizens do. 1 example is if you try to overthrow the government, your permanent resident status can be revoked.  Some may say if one of these people joined a militia, that could be seen as trying to over throw the government.  This ties into the verbiage of the 2A "well regulated militia". 

Thanks for your more detailed interpretation of the XO, I still didn't read it as I have other stuff to do. Your post answers my thoughts.

QUIETShooter

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #287 on: August 27, 2025, 09:01:19 AM »
The way I interpret this XO is if you are a US Citizen and it is your personal flag or a flag given to you for your use, then you have a 1st amendment right to do what you want with that flag. You cannot take it from someone else's property and desecrate it. If you are a foreign national and desecrate the US flag, you may be impriso ed and/or deported. It makes sense to me.

This is the way it should be.  Although a US Citizen that has an issue with his country shouldn't go as far as burning or desecrating the flag of the United States. 

My opinion, of course.
Sometimes you gotta know when to save your bullets.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #288 on: August 28, 2025, 11:38:30 PM »
The way I interpret this XO is if you are a US Citizen and it is your personal flag or a flag given to you for your use, then you have a 1st amendment right to do what you want with that flag. You cannot take it from someone else's property and desecrate it. If you are a foreign national and desecrate the US flag, you may be impriso ed and/or deported. It makes sense to me.

Foreigners have pretty much all the same free speech protections Americans do. It could certainly be a reason to not approve someone's request for a visa though.

Of course it is rather rude to insult a country hosting you.

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #289 on: August 29, 2025, 08:42:34 AM »
Foreigners have pretty much all the same free speech protections Americans do. It could certainly be a reason to not approve someone's request for a visa though.

Of course it is rather rude to insult a country hosting you.

"pretty much" means not full 1a protections.  Refer to my post about any permanent resident trying to overthrow the government.  They also can own guns and get a CCW.

All these people who had major law breaking should have been deported at that time.  But I guess better late than never.  My friend wanted to go to Tahiti to visit his parents. He's a US citizen and his parents are Tahitian citizens. He was denied entry because he had a DUI in Hawaii a few years prior.  Then 2 of the cast members of Jersey Shore were denied entry into Italy due to their DUI. The producers had to pull strings to get them in so they could film there.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #290 on: September 06, 2025, 02:04:18 PM »
Largest ICE arrest in history!

475 workers at a Hyundai plant were detained.  300 of the illegal employees were Korean.


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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

hvybarrels

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #291 on: September 06, 2025, 02:57:19 PM »
This is what I imagine the immigration inspectors saw when they opened the wrong door at the Mitsubishi plant

I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #292 on: September 06, 2025, 06:19:50 PM »
Largest ICE arrest in history!

475 workers at a Mitsubishi plant were detained.  300 of the illegal employees were Korean.



I thought they were only going after mexicans (sarcasm)

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ren

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #293 on: September 06, 2025, 06:37:33 PM »
I thought they were only going after mexicans (sarcasm)

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changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #294 on: September 08, 2025, 01:15:54 PM »
IDK whether to put this here or in the fake news thread.

I've been seeing more and more interviews of people who voted/support for Trump, and then who's spouse, family, or themselves were deported.  And now they regret their vote. 

Same goes with business people who employed illegals and now have no workers to run the business.

Yes, I voted for this.  For too long we have let illegals work unchecked. And for too long, we have let people who are guest here break the law and remain.  There also has been increasing stories of permanent residents who the fake news leaves out committed a crime, then was recently deported.  They should have been deported back when the crime was committed.  There's 1 local story of that lady who was caught stealing money from her employer 20 years ago and was recently deported due to that.  Then the former military member (I can't remember the branch) who had a drug conviction from 12 years ago who was recently deported.

At the same time, the fake news is saying that millions of jobs are now impacted due to no workers due to the deportations.  But yet, they also report that unemployment is super high due to no jobs available and it's Trumps fault for the high unemployment.

For every job I had, I had to show my social security card.  From being a bag boy to white collar jobs.  So how did these illegals get a social security card?  It's amazing the legal documents that they're able to get (drivers licenses).

hvybarrels

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #295 on: September 08, 2025, 01:36:30 PM »
It's amazing the legal documents that they're able to get (drivers licenses).

Every one comes with a free mail in ballot now
I’m becoming clinically undepressed and thinking about beginning it all.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #296 on: September 08, 2025, 02:10:47 PM »
IDK whether to put this here or in the fake news thread.

I've been seeing more and more interviews of people who voted/support for Trump, and then who's spouse, family, or themselves were deported.  And now they regret their vote. 

Same goes with business people who employed illegals and now have no workers to run the business.

Yes, I voted for this.  For too long we have let illegals work unchecked. And for too long, we have let people who are guest here break the law and remain.  There also has been increasing stories of permanent residents who the fake news leaves out committed a crime, then was recently deported.  They should have been deported back when the crime was committed.  There's 1 local story of that lady who was caught stealing money from her employer 20 years ago and was recently deported due to that.  Then the former military member (I can't remember the branch) who had a drug conviction from 12 years ago who was recently deported.

At the same time, the fake news is saying that millions of jobs are now impacted due to no workers due to the deportations.  But yet, they also report that unemployment is super high due to no jobs available and it's Trumps fault for the high unemployment.

For every job I had, I had to show my social security card.  From being a bag boy to white collar jobs.  So how did these illegals get a social security card?  It's amazing the legal documents that they're able to get (drivers licenses).
So, what you're really saying is the criminals (employers and illegals) are mad because they helped elect someone who actually enforces immigration law?

Funny, since Obama still holds the record for an administration's total deportations.  And Biden's deportation numbers were the lowest in decades even though the number of illegals coming into the US surged during his administration.

Even LEGAL immigrants voted for Trump and his agenda to do something toward fixing border security and illegal immigration.

This report estimates that 39 Million Americans have had their Social Security Numbers stolen and used by illegals to obtain employment, receive tax refunds, and receive Social Security benefits. **

https://www.irli.org/39-million-irli-investigation-reveals-massive-identity-fraud-by-illegal-al/

** Note: make sure you've taken your blood pressure meds before reading!
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #297 on: September 08, 2025, 10:35:35 PM »
There is a huge disparity between illegal workers being caught and prosecuted/deported and the people who hire them. Looked it up and the average was about 11 cases per year. They need to start chasing after the people who hire illegals otherwise the problem will never end because as long as someone gives them work, they will come for the work.

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Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #298 on: September 09, 2025, 07:31:39 AM »
There is a huge disparity between illegal workers being caught and prosecuted/deported and the people who hire them. Looked it up and the average was about 11 cases per year. They need to start chasing after the people who hire illegals otherwise the problem will never end because as long as someone gives them work, they will come for the work.
Yes.  Much more strategic, effective, and humane.  They are the enablers, in tandem with the political party seeking to conduct the invasion - while homeless and working-poor Americans languish on our streets.
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changemyoil66

Re: Promises made, Promises kept! -- President Trump
« Reply #299 on: September 09, 2025, 08:09:39 AM »
There is a huge disparity between illegal workers being caught and prosecuted/deported and the people who hire them. Looked it up and the average was about 11 cases per year. They need to start chasing after the people who hire illegals otherwise the problem will never end because as long as someone gives them work, they will come for the work.

I hope they do this as well.  And going another step further.  How did an illegal get documents if employers ask for them.  Like a social security card, etc...Like I posted above, for all my jobs, I had to show my SS card and ID (drivers license).  To get my license, I had to show my birth certificate.