Liberals? Or simply Terrorists? (Read 8397 times)

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2025, 12:28:30 PM »
Hahahhaa. Typical answer i expected.

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What a coincidence, yours is also a typical answer I expected. (Substanceless)

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2025, 12:33:06 PM »
So, your evidence that the FCC chair made a threat is there is none, because the FCC chair is smart?

There are no pieces to the puzzle that demonstrate a threat of any sort on the part of the FCC toward ABC or its affiliates.

Prove me wrong.

"it is still an abuse of power, the federal government flexing its muscle for the sake of the president's authoritarian tendencies. "

HOW is it an abuse off power?  Go read what the FCC's duties are and get back to me.

stop being obstinate, I know you are not dumb. You know very well threats can be made without wording it in a way that is a clear threat.

It is an abuse of power because the power is being levied in a way that it never was and is being done for the interest of the president. Ted Cruz can see it, why can't you?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2025, 12:59:03 PM »
stop being obstinate, I know you are not dumb. You know very well threats can be made without wording it in a way that is a clear threat.

It is an abuse of power because the power is being levied in a way that it never was and is being done for the interest of the president. Ted Cruz can see it, why can't you?
No threat = no abuse of power.

How is the FCC holding ABC's feet to the fire about LIES and DEMONIZING ACCUSATIONS made by Jimmy Kimmel being done in the interest off the President?  He's not the only person about whom Kimmel lied and made accusations regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.  if the post office lowered stamp prices tomorrow by 25 cents, you'd swear it was done to benefit Trump, even though everyone who mails a letter is also benefitting.

Who said the FCC has never done this before?

7 of the Biggest FCC Fines of All Time
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Howard Stern iand George Carlin are direct proof that the FCC has gone after broadcasters for the things comedians said on their stations.
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

changemyoil66

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2025, 01:03:22 PM »
What a coincidence, yours is also a typical answer I expected. (Substanceless)

Nice try. Thanks for playing like usual.

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Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2025, 07:32:19 AM »
Back to the original theme of this thread - this leading Communist just fled to Europe.  The clip seems to be a great look into this terrorist movement within our borders - especially for those who don’t yet get that they openly contemplate armed insurgency - they do, and this guy makes it explicit:

For years, Rutgers professor Mark Bray, author of Antifa: The Anti-Fascist Handbook, has openly defended political violence as part of “anti-fascist resistance.” In a recent interview, he even admitted that violence is “one of the tools in the toolbox.”

https://x.com/thestustustudio/status/1976288827250442438?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1976288827250442438%7Ctwgr%5E6eb415ac7b7c8745eb6092bc35fc8045aaff6cc3%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fpolitical%2Fantifas-mask-slips-trumps-roundtable-sends-shadow-ngo-network-behind-riot-inc-panic


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hvybarrels

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2025, 10:56:33 AM »
So it turns out Antifa is supported by taxpayer money laundered through the homeless industrial complex.

Liberal cities create policies to promote homelessness and then divert federal funding designated to fix the problem to the Democratic Party Brownshirt Brigades.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/antifas-mask-slips-trumps-roundtable-sends-shadow-ngo-network-behind-riot-inc-panic
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2025, 03:21:21 PM »
Whether or not their words are made public with actual evidence, the party of slavery and systemic racism thinks political violence is not only justified, but more of it would go a long way toward solving the nation's problems.

Jay Jones -- running for Virginia Attorney General
Member of the Virginia House of Delegates from the 89th district,
In office January 10, 2018 – January 2, 2022

Texts from 2022 have been made public where Jones says his GOP opponent and his kids should die.

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“Three people, two bullets,” Jones wrote in a text to
House Delegate Carrie Coyner (R) about Gilbert.

“Gilbert, hitler, and pol pot,” Jones wrote. “Gilbert gets
two bullets to the head.”

“Spoiler: put Gilbert in the crew with the two worst
people you know and he receives both bullets every
time,” Jones told Coyner.

Coyner, in response, told Jones, who at the time did
not hold an elected office, to stop.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5541374-jay-jones-text-scandal/

Then, the Democrat candidate for Governor, Abigail Spanberger, refused during a live debate to withdraw her endorsement of Jones for AG after multiple attempts to get an answer.

The Democrats as a party are evil and will do anything for power.  The people who support them may be moral and good in their own lives, but when they keep these people in power in spite of evidence against them, they are no better than the evil politicians themselves.

That's why political violence is not off the table for Dems.  They will almost always lose in the arena of ideas and fair dialogue, so they have a backup plan -- violence against the opposition.  They are no different than Communist and Socialist leaders we've seen for a century.  In their world, if you can't beat them, eliminate them.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #87 on: October 11, 2025, 03:44:19 PM »
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the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #88 on: October 11, 2025, 04:09:01 PM »

The Democrats as a party are evil and will do anything for power.  The people who support them may be moral and good in their own lives, but when they keep these people in power in spite of evidence against them, they are no better than the evil politicians themselves.

Absolutely true, and every non-comatose Dem knows it too.  They are absolutely complicit.  It’s a grave mistake to give them a free pass.  The ones that seem nice are just the passive/aggressive ones.
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Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #89 on: October 11, 2025, 06:51:58 PM »
Using laser pointers to blind military and police helicopter pilots? 

Blocking streets to protest Conservatives/Republicans without any permits preventing fire, police and ambulance drivers from answering emergency calls?

How is any of this not terrorism?  it's purely political.


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Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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Flapp_Jackson

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #92 on: October 14, 2025, 01:04:44 PM »
No threat = no abuse of power.

I disagree.


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How is the FCC holding ABC's feet to the fire about LIES and DEMONIZING ACCUSATIONS made by Jimmy Kimmel being done in the interest off the President? 

Authoritarians tend to not like being criticized. He sued CBS, now he is in a position to wield power through law, not just a lawsuit. This is a clear message to be careful about what you say about that side. It's not like he went after a news source either, he went after a comedian. Here is way to test whether this really is about some interest of Trump to have accurate news: If Trump starts going after right leaning broadcast news for lies as he does the left then we can see it is fair and about the truth.

Aside from that, it's a huge irony that Trump cares about truth telling when he tells more lies than hairs on his head.


He's not the only person about whom Kimmel lied and made accusations regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.  if the post office lowered stamp prices tomorrow by 25 cents, you'd swear it was done to benefit Trump, even though everyone who mails a letter is also benefitting.

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Who said the FCC has never done this before?

Note that none of those were political.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #93 on: October 14, 2025, 01:20:36 PM »
I disagree.
And that's where you chose to leave it.  You were so convincing, I'm sure everyone reading that comment is considering changing their stance to join yours.


Authoritarians tend to not like being criticized. He sued CBS, now he is in a position to wield power through law, not just a lawsuit. This is a clear message to be careful about what you say about that side. It's not like he went after a news source either, he went after a comedian. Here is way to test whether this really is about some interest of Trump to have accurate news: If Trump starts going after right leaning broadcast news for lies as he does the left then we can see it is fair and about the truth.

Aside from that, it's a huge irony that Trump cares about truth telling when he tells more lies than hairs on his head.
Name a contemporary president who did like being criticized.


He's not the only person about whom Kimmel lied and made accusations regarding Charlie Kirk's assassination.  if the post office lowered stamp prices tomorrow by 25 cents, you'd swear it was done to benefit Trump, even though everyone who mails a letter is also benefitting.

Note that none of those were political.
Kimmel is the one who chose to lie about a political topic.  don't blame the FCC for that.  If he'd lied about COVID vaccine data or transgender reassignment surgery success rates, they would still be lies that can harm the public.

In your world, if I run a red light and get stopped, the cop should not issue me a ticket if I argue that the only reason he stopped me was political -- like the bumper and window stickers I have on the vehicle, or the political apparel I have on.

To you, the broadcaster is somehow insulated from consequences because the lies had to do with a political party and MAGA.  That's insane.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #94 on: October 14, 2025, 03:13:42 PM »
And that's where you chose to leave it.  You were so convincing, I'm sure everyone reading that comment is considering changing their stance to join yours.

I made my case, you remain unconvinced or unable to admit you were convinced. I see no point in more effort to try and change your mind.


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Name a contemporary president who did like being criticized.

What other president is taking steps to silence the criticism of them?


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Kimmel is the one who chose to lie about a political topic.  don't blame the FCC for that.  If he'd lied about COVID vaccine data or transgender reassignment surgery success rates, they would still be lies that can harm the public.
In your world, if I run a red light and get stopped, the cop should not issue me a ticket if I argue that the only reason he stopped me was political -- like the bumper and window stickers I have on the vehicle, or the political apparel I have on.
To you, the broadcaster is somehow insulated from consequences because the lies had to do with a political party and MAGA.  That's insane.

If the cop only ever stopped speeders with bumper stickers criticizing the mayor would you be ok with that? If you were speeding you were speeding right?

macsak

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #95 on: October 14, 2025, 03:24:08 PM »
biden white house colluded with social media to take down anti-vaxx posts...

I made my case, you remain unconvinced or unable to admit you were convinced. I see no point in more effort to try and change your mind.


What other president is taking steps to silence the criticism of them?



If the cop only ever stopped speeders with bumper stickers criticizing the mayor would you be ok with that? If you were speeding you were speeding right?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #96 on: October 14, 2025, 03:32:39 PM »
I made my case, you remain unconvinced or unable to admit you were convinced. I see no point in more effort to try and change your mind.


What other president is taking steps to silence the criticism of them?
Obama’s legacy: The trashing of free speech
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Also that year the Committee to Protect Journalists released a report titled “The Obama Administration and the Press,” which began with this paragraph: 
“U.S. President Barack Obama came into office pledging open government, but he has fallen short of his promise. Journalists and transparency advocates say the White House curbs routine disclosure of information and deploys its own media to evade scrutiny by the press. Aggressive prosecution of leakers of classified information and broad electronic surveillance programs deter government sources from speaking to journalists.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/287426-obamas-legacy-the-trashing-of-free-speech/
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If the cop only ever stopped speeders with bumper stickers criticizing the mayor would you be ok with that? If you were speeding you were speeding right?
Swooooosh!
That was my point, but you seem to think it's only political if Trump's FCC chair enforces the rules.

Do you have any evidence the Trump FCC only targets liberals?  You know, the same way the Obama IRS almost only approved liberal applications for 401 status while sitting on Conservative organizations' applications so they were hamstrung in their fundraising just ahead of a national election?

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #97 on: October 16, 2025, 01:26:46 PM »
biden white house colluded with social media to take down anti-vaxx posts...

And was that acceptable to you?

eyeeatingfish

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #98 on: October 16, 2025, 01:28:38 PM »

Do you have any evidence the Trump FCC only targets liberals?  You know, the same way the Obama IRS almost only approved liberal applications for 401 status while sitting on Conservative organizations' applications so they were hamstrung in their fundraising just ahead of a national election?[/color][/b]

So why is it wrong when Obama engaged in this behavior but not when Trump does it?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Liberals? Or simply Terrorists?
« Reply #99 on: October 16, 2025, 01:30:44 PM »
So why is it wrong when Obama engaged in this behavior but not when Trump does it?
If Trump were engaging in this behavior, it would be wrong.

Your question is not based on facts.

Trump is not doing what Obama did.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw