Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol. (Read 25086 times)

abakja1

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2013, 06:55:53 PM »
I think that for his 1st pistol, the Glock or MP would be a better choice than the CZ.
I just got my CZ SP-01 last month only cause it is one of the Super 9mm out there, but it may be too heavy for his 1st pistol if he'd want to use it in other manners. 
The CZ is definitely heavier for EDC or primary pistol compared to the Glock and MP since they polymer frames, but is great for target shooting and follow up shots due to the weight.  Glock got many upgrade mod parts out there as well.

I like my G19 with some mods as my primary pistol and I have a Sig 226 40 SW, Sig 1911, and the CZ Sp-01 as backups (as well as my 1 shottys and 6920 for long guns).

Also....how about a CZ-75b?

kavawava

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2013, 07:04:02 PM »
The only polymer pistol I'd consider replacing my Glocks with is the new Walther PPQ.

+1 my sentiments exactly.  :thumbsup:

Anyone know of a LGS that actually sells one?

Bunker

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2013, 07:19:54 PM »
The only polymer pistol I'd consider replacing my Glocks with is the new Walther PPQ.

Not sure if I would replace but surely augment. Everything I heard or read, an excellent handgun. I'm a huge fan of Walther, so I'm likely to invest in one too.

Surf

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2013, 07:30:58 PM »
M&P is a sexier looking pistol, has a nice ergo feel and a familiar angle and point for most people used to a more American grip angle.  Stock M&P trigger is horrible and is THE most common, or first thing upgraded by most serious M&P shooters.  I will say that I played around with the M&P CORE variant and the trigger is a bit improved over their past standard models.  Accuracy has been extremely spotty in prior serial run models in 9mm and the one that I heavily Tested and Evaluated when they were first released had horrible accuracy even from a rest.  Supposed to be an issue addressed in new models.

The Glock is my choice.  I do like the pronounced grip angle as I get more cam in my support wrist which helps to manage recoil much more efficiently with my already aggressive thumbs forward or modern combat grip.  Trigger is much better than the M&P and easily improved to be an excellent trigger for its type.  Accuracy is good, reliability is high.  Beware that some of the early Gen4's have had some issues.  This is not voodoo, it is real.  Newest versions have supposedly better addressed the issues. 

Having said the above, I will say that I have never been a fan of the M&P pistols.  I will say that having handled the CORE version and that I have a couple red of mini red dots sitting around, I have a 9mm longslide and a .40 S&W on order. 

I will also note that I know of a test done between the M&P and Glock with 30 participants using 15 Glocks and 15 M&P's.  Each were carried and fired for 2 weeks, then the group traded pistols for another 2 weeks.  I was very much expecting the M&P to be more popular.  To my shock, 100% chose the Glock after an in depth, post T&E, written evaluation and review from all the testers. 

Hunter1007

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2013, 08:10:47 PM »
I have both and love both of them. The biggest difference to me was the triggers. Glock have that audible reset and have a bit crisper break. To me the the M&P's trigger was mushy out of the box and had an awkward break. After a few hundred rounds it smoothen out but you really have to slow your trigger presses down at first until you get the hang of the break. For a first gun either will do. Get what feels better in your hands. Before you go to the range dry fire the crap out of it while practicing sight alignment and trigger press. Trust me, it will save you on ammo and frustration. :thumbsup:

ManaSpark

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2013, 08:44:50 PM »
I'd like to see they study/review of all 15 people choosing the Glock over an M&P.

hawaiian

Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2013, 09:14:24 PM »
I have both. M&P 9 pro feels better in the hand ergonomically but weird wrist feel until I changed out the trigger to the Apex kit. Glocks are cheap with GSSF discount so I bought 2. Never had a single problem with any yet but if I had to choose 1 it would be the G34.

Paul96734

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2013, 09:33:35 PM »
I was able to grip a G17 Gen 4 tonight, and I am very comfortable with how it felt within my hands. After doing some additional research, I am thinking the Walther PPQ would be a good compliment to the G17 rather than the M&P 9, but I would have to actually see how both models feel.



crazy cat

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2013, 09:39:16 PM »
The Kahuku Practical Pistol Shooters Club is on the Big Island...and the range that we shoot IPSC and IDPA at is actually in Glenwood. 

Cougar8045

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2013, 09:43:36 PM »
Lol, anyone complaining about the lack of aftermarket products available for the M&P has never owned a Beretta Cougar 8045!   :'(
I'm just a fluffy white bunny rabbit who lost his way. 

"If a thief be found breaking in, and be smitten that he die, there shall no blood be shed for him. ..."  -Exodus 22:2

musubi

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2013, 10:09:14 PM »
+1 my sentiments exactly.  :thumbsup:

Anyone know of a LGS that actually sells one?

I remember seeing one at  X-Ring, but that was back in early December. Not sure if they still have it.

Dblnaknak

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #31 on: January 26, 2013, 10:29:12 PM »
I have a glock 23 and M&P9c. While the M&P grip is great the trigger reset sucks. It's all the way out. The glock feels good and is proven. The glock is easy to take apart. The M&P takes a bit to disassemble. Other than the M&P trigger reset, they both shoot great. I also bought an advantage arms .22 conversion for my glock. Now I can shoot all day for cheap.

The glock 23 is almost the same size as the M&P9c.

Dolomite

Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2013, 01:12:43 AM »
Which glock is the best?

Dblnaknak

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2013, 08:47:05 AM »
Which glock is the best?

Glock 23. You can get the 9mm conversion and the .22 conversion.

sirkaiks

Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2013, 09:32:02 AM »
Which glock is the best?
i have a 17, 19, and 23... I like the 17 the best, then the 19.

aieahound

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2013, 09:45:40 AM »
As far ass .22 for practice/first gun. They also sell some awesome replica blow-back gas pellet guns. ( not air soft ) that you can shoot cheap and in  the backyard or garage.

What about Springfield XD/XDM.  I love the grip and they have conversion barrels ?

bass monkey

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2013, 09:53:39 AM »
hey bro you got a link for barrel conversions for Springfield XD handguns?
Might have to check that out

ManaSpark

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2013, 11:42:47 AM »
In the end it becomes personal preference.  When sh*t hits the fan reliability is what matters most and both are reliable, trigger reset when your reacting to a threat, negligible, you can drive both of them hard.  But Walther pistols are just sexy!

GZire

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2013, 04:57:45 PM »
My preference is the M&P.

mnpfamily

Re: Thoughts on a Glock versus SW M&P 9 as a first pistol.
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2013, 07:00:04 PM »
I prefer the M&P also, in both .40 S&W and 9mm.  Another thing to consider, if you end up shooting a lot, you'll probably end up reloading.  No problem shooting lead out of an M&P stock barrel.  With the Glock, its up in the air whether you need a aftermarket barrel or not to safely shoot lead. 
The hard thing about both pistols is that it normally takes a while to get proficient with either pistol.  One gun may feel more comfortable in the shop, but that doesn't necessarily carry over to the range.  The stock trigger pull leaves a lot to be desired, hence the very common initial problems with "low, left".  Both are extremely reliable, but for me and my wife, the M&Ps are what we started with and prefer.  And lastly,  I'm glad someone finally said it, the M&Ps are just a whole lot nicer looking.