Everyone was pretty quick answering this.

Aside from the legal issues, the problem you will have with not having your own vehicle is transporting all the other stuff you need i.e. target frames, ammo (esp. 12ga), range bag, etc.

thanks everyone! super helpful. i just read that previous thread. VERY informative! i am looking forward to catching the bus with my rifle to kokohead. but id have to bring target frames? could you explain this please? i think id be able to fit most things in my backpack.

It would be fun to make a vacuum formed gun case that resembles the exact weapon it is designed to carry; just slightly oversize to contain the weapon and with a handle.. Just to piss off the hand wringing liberals....

genius. i'd buy it.

if anyone could answer my question further, would it be unlawful to transport mt rifle on the bus in a guitar bag? my rifle fits perfectly in it and i don't have a gun case or gun bag.

do you have a handgun?  if so, how did you get a gun if you didn't have a car since you gotta go down to HPD 3 times for that and back and forth between the gun store and HPD.

i don't have a handgun, just a .22 rifle. a remington 597. i bought it through private sale.

Everyone here knows the rules...it must be turned over to kingkeoni for final approval

thanks everyone! super helpful. i just read that previous thread. VERY informative! i am looking forward to catching the bus with my rifle to kokohead. but id have to bring target frames? could you explain this please? i think id be able to fit most things in my backpack.

Wasn't it just stated in the other post that the C&C of honolulu forbids firearms and ammunition on the bus?  So how can you be looking forward to catching the bus to Kokohead?

Don't have access to the statute at the moment (real reason: too damn lazy to look) but if I remember correctly, the firearm laws in Hawaii do not prescribe the manner and method of transportation, only the manner in which a firearm is stored while in transit. You may ride your 4 year old son's tricycle with a properly stored firearm strapped to your back to Kokohead from your apartment looking like a monkey who escaped from the circuit but you are probably not in violation of the law. That being the case, traveling between destinations permitted by the law in a bus would not be illegal per se. You may be violating OTS policies against carrying a prohibited article onboard and subject yourself to being thrown off but probably would not be in violation of the law.

As far as the container in which the firearm is stored while in transit, I recall that it must be stored completely in a "rigid" container or receptacle. "Rigid" is not defined in the statute the last time I checked but you can reasonably expect a gun sock to fail the test. The firearm must be completely encased which basically means that no part of it may be exposed. A buttstock protruding from a soft riflebag is therefore probably not a good thing. A good rule of thumb to follow is that if you can visibly see any part of the firearm, it's probably a violation of the law.

Since we on the subject....going to the range, decide to stop at a LGS (on my way to the range) to pick up ammo.  I take my pistols outta my car (enclosed in the case they came in) and walk in the LGS with them because of the fear of someone breaking in my car and maybe perhaps stealing my firearms.  This is legal right?

Since we on the subject....going to the range, decide to stop at a LGS (on my way to the range) to pick up ammo.  I take my pistols outta my car (enclosed in the case they came in) and walk in the LGS with them because of the fear of someone breaking in my car and maybe perhaps stealing my firearms.  This is legal right?

i think you're allowed to take them into a gun shop, as per the law. 

Don't have access to the statute at the moment (real reason: too damn lazy to look) but if I remember correctly, the firearm laws in Hawaii do not prescribe the manner and method of transportation, only the manner in which a firearm is stored while in transit. You may ride your 4 year old son's tricycle with a properly stored firearm strapped to your back to Kokohead from your apartment. You may look like an escaped monkey from a circus but you probably won't be in violation of the law. That being the case, traveling between destinations permitted by the law in a bus would not be illlegal per se. You may be violating OTS policies againstof carrying a prohibited article onboard and subject yourself to being thrown off but not be subject to arrest for violating the law regarding transporting firearms.

As far as the container in which the firearm is stored while in transit, I recall that it must be stored completely in a "rigid" container or receptacle. "Rigid" is not defined in the statute as  I recall but you can reasonably expect a gun sock to fail the test. The firearm must be completely encased which basically means that no part of it may be exposed. A buttstock protruding from a soft riflebag is therefore probably not a good thing. A good rule of thumb to follow is that if you can visibly see any part of the firearm, it's probably a violation of the law.

they allow for rigid OR soft cases and commercially manufactured gun socks, dont they?

It almost sounds like we're talking about genitalia.

(I'm not signing this one so nobody will know who posted it.)

It almost sounds like you guys are talking about genitalia.

Terry, 230RN

what's that you said?

thanks everyone! super helpful. i just read that previous thread. VERY informative! i am looking forward to catching the bus with my rifle to kokohead. but id have to bring target frames? could you explain this please? i think id be able to fit most things in my backpack.

Either you're not actually reading the posts here, or you're trolling.  On the off chance you're just not paying attention....

1.  IT IS AGAINST C&C RULES TO CARRY A FIREARM ON THE BUS
2.  A BACKPACK IS NOT A COMMERCIALLY MANUFACTURED GUN CASE.

If you insist on getting arrested, don't pretend that it's because you got bad info here.

they allow for rigid OR soft cases and commercially manufactured gun socks, dont they?

I believe the word is ambiguous and as such, LE will not cite people using soft cases. Just use common sense. People using soft rifle cases, the kind sold by Sports Authority, seem to  have no problem with LE. 

 A case or sock needs to be commercially made. A sock needs to have a tag of the manufacture on it.
It is acceptable to transport a firearm to a gun shop,gun show, range,HPD, or your place of sojourn.
Stay off the bus with a firearm and or ammo.
Check policy of the cab companies.
Best bet is to make friends. There are a number of us that would be willing to offer a ride to a fellow enthusiast.(maybe on a regular basis)

Either you're not actually reading the posts here, or you're trolling.  On the off chance you're just not paying attention....

1.  IT IS AGAINST C&C RULES TO CARRY A FIREARM ON THE BUS
2.  A BACKPACK IS NOT A COMMERCIALLY MANUFACTURED GUN CASE.

If you insist on getting arrested, don't pretend that it's because you got bad info here.

Im not trolling. Someone linked a previous thread in an early reply that said it isn't illegal to catch the bus with a firearm. Ago this isn't true? Check out the thread.  It quotes actual law. A statute or something saying its not illegal to bus, bike, or walk to a range with a firearm.

A case or sock needs to be commercially made. A sock needs to have a tag of the manufacture on it.
It is acceptable to transport a firearm to a gun shop,gun show, range,HPD, or your place of sojourn.
Stay off the bus with a firearm and or ammo.
Check policy of the cab companies.
Best bet is to make friends. There are a number of us that would be willing to offer a ride to a fellow enthusiast.(maybe on a regular basis)

ok i see. so the bus is off limits because of C&C rules? damn. the problem is i live in kalihi so its kind of far. i would probably have to bicycle there. anyway i found the guys quote


Colt808 :
Re: Firearm transportation without a car?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 10:50:59 PM »
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Not sure what gave you the idea that a vehicle is needed. HRS just requires it be unloaded and in an enclosed container while being transported between A and B. How do you get from A to B? Walk, bike, bus, or drive that is really up to you, as long as you don't violate other laws that may apply.

As far as brown paper wrapping goes, that does not meet the requirements for approved transport (a rigidly constructed receptacle).



thanks for all the help guys, stopped me from making a dumb mistake taking my rifle on a bus haha. i was hoping it wasn't unlawful to do so.

It would be fun to  make a vacuum formed gun case that resembles the exact weapon it is designed to carry; just slightly oversize to contain the weapon and with a handle.. Just to piss off the hand wringing liberals....

Better yet, use your wife's panty hose and call it a gun sock. When they try to cite you, tell them its a commercially made bag and show them the label that says, "Sheers."

Why would you have a rifle before having a car? Seems like a car is a more needed commodity.

Why would you have a rifle before having a car? Seems like a car is a more needed commodity.

If i was a thinking about being a new gun owner, i would have been very happy in my decision months ago to invest in a firearm instead of a car.   
At my old job, i used to catch bus and load up my bicycle.  Takes a while longer, but allowed me to save money.  Free bus pass from school and $50 bike from friend.  Priceless workout every day.  I did/do have a vehicle though.  Also before It took a long time to save up for a firearm before the crazyness.  Now its taking twice as long.  If i had the foresight, i would have sold my car pre election/panic buying, used the money to buy firearms i really want.  Maybe grab a few extra, sell those off and buy another car.  win-win all around.  Too bad my crystal ball doesnt work that great.