IF DEEDY GETS CONVICTED IT WILL BE A SAD DAY FOR LAWR ENFORCEMENT. It'll be "free for all off" for off duty lawr enforcement. I hope he gets set free. He( "the DOA guy") picked on the wrong guy at the wrong time and got his a$$ kilt. The bully got what he deserved. Too many times I've seen locals do the same to lawr enforcement. Time to stop. They deserve our respect and honor. Any dis-agreements?
I am speaking as both a 'local' and someone who has been overseas when I say that there is an obvious ego problem here in Hawaii. I never really 'fit in' with my peers, which is why I never really adopted that attitude of 'what bra, like beef?!' just to prove a point, or establish dominance over another individual. I'm happy I did, because there were numerous occasions, while on the mainland and overseas, where that kind of attitude could have resulted in me being killed.
The problem here is that because many people who have never experienced life, specifically violence, outside of Hawaii, they will never expect how people may defend themselves, nor will they ever understand why individuals may escalate to higher levels of force to do so; i.e. presentation/application of deadly force. There is a predisposed mentality that beat someone up and that's that. But speaking from experience, its really not like that anywhere else in the country. Sure, you have fights and what not; but from my experiences, I have learned to expect the worst possible outcome, which is why I always opt to deescalate a situation and be the bigger man at the expense of my pride, unless my life or the lives of my loved ones are on the line.
I can tell you that working as an MP, I was extremely confident with my deescalation techniques and only had to escalate to higher levels of force on a few occasions because of my approach and attitude when dealing with perps or persons of interest. However, I can also tell you that my partner, a 5'1, 115# woman, had to escalate to presentation of deadly force on several occasions, in the same type of scenarios, because many of the individuals she interacted with thought they could intimidate/overpower her because of her size, and she honestly felt she was in danger.
Case in point : Ego/pride + underestimating how someone (who honestly fears for their life) will react = recipe for disaster.
I honestly feel that Elderts, regardless of if he or Deedy was wrong, should have deescalated or avoided the situation. But from my experience amongst my peers, deescalation is definitely not something encouraged within our local society.