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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: HNL03 on July 16, 2014, 05:48:22 PM
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That sucks
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/foghorn/breaking-obama-administration-bans-import-izhmash-kalashnikov-saiga-firearms/ (http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07/foghorn/breaking-obama-administration-bans-import-izhmash-kalashnikov-saiga-firearms/)
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Looks like expanded sanctions to a couple banks, energy companies, and weapons manufacturers.
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It's BS. For those wondering and don't wanna read much on sites, it bans the saiga and other ak's from Russia. So those ak's built on saiga receivers are no more. No more veprs either.
Ak's from other countries like Bulgaria (Arsenal), yugo aks, etc are still fine for now.
I'm assuming since FIME group who makes the sgl series now goes under since they get their receivers from Russia?
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I keep hoping these idiots will "punish" us by leaving. Guess I have a better chance of finding a rainbow unicorn.
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Waiting for ridiculously overpriced AKs to start appearing on Armslist and Gun Broker.
everyone;\'s going to panic that if o'bama is willing to make an EO to ban AKs, he may do one to ban assault weapons and assault magazines
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He is the worst president in my lifetime.
I am thankful that i just registered my SGL 1 week ago.
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He is the worst president in my lifetime.
I am thankful that i just registered my SGL 1 week ago.
Me too! Found a slr 106 here n went to hpd last monday.
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If someone wants to buy my VEPR12 w/ 6 mags for 3,000, let me know :rofl:
OK Deal 3000 Russian Rubles!
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Me too! Found a slr 106 here n went to hpd last monday.
Slr's are made from Bulgarian parts so they're still importable.
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So, where are our fellow 2a members that voted for this clown not once but twice? I'd like to thank for your shortsightedness and lack of intelligence.
Oh, but I'm sure Romney would've been so much worse, right? ::)
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in soviet Russia, AK47 BAN YOU!!
(http://img.qz.com/2013/12/ap0109030627.jpg?w=640)
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As far as I know its just Russian (Izmash/Molot/VEPR/SAIGA, etc) not Bulgarian. All the distributors are already sold out of Arsenal SGL, Saiga models and anything IZMASH based like some of the century rifles.
They weren't particularly easy to get even before this (russian variants that is)
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Crap!!! I should have bought the couple of VEPRs I seen for sale a month or so ago.
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This is going to be just like cuban cigars, you're going to need to buy the
dominican republic bulgarian version instead of the cuban russian.
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Cuban cigars aren't too hard to find. ;)
but i get your drift.
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If that 777 was shot down by a BUK SAM provided to Russian separatists, this might only be the beginning.....
Prayers to the family of the near 300 lost.
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Damn, there goes my chance of getting a Saiga 12 at a reasonable price......
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Some say we will never get it back after a ban is in place but at one point in time we were in a cold war with them
Not long ago. So do you all feel like it will never return to back to business as usual eventually. Or not in our lifetime? >:(
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Some say we will never get it back after a ban is in place but at one point in time we were in a cold war with them
Not long ago. So do you all feel like it will never return to back to business as usual eventually. Or not in our lifetime? >:(
I don't think the sanctions will be forever, I'd be shocked if they last more than a year or two. These sanctions are devastating to the Russian economy as their export of nat gas & oil is huge. It also hurts Europe a lot but Europe has built some reserves from the last time the Gazprom lines got shut off so they are somewhat prepared. The big X factor here is Putin who is a total whack job. If they invade a NATO country then I think it's time to say, "oh shit" but right now there isn't enough to bring us back to a cold war era.
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Obunaga is the best firearms salesman of the century!
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Some say we will never get it back after a ban is in place but at one point in time we were in a cold war with them
Not long ago. So do you all feel like it will never return to back to business as usual eventually. Or not in our lifetime? >:(
Those import bans from the 90's are still in place :(
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the sanctions goina be worst now the ak go up, but goina drive up all the guns like the ar 15 putting more presure on the united states guns. watch prices goina go up again. you guys better buy your guns now cause here we go again carnival ride
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So does that mean Century Arms is destined to be a Fortune 500 Company?
http://youtu.be/op8pcJV36Rk?list=UU_yFwaCnvs9fM_-1o35lTFA (http://youtu.be/op8pcJV36Rk?list=UU_yFwaCnvs9fM_-1o35lTFA)
http://youtu.be/0_8xhPKU-0I (http://youtu.be/0_8xhPKU-0I)
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Some say we will never get it back after a ban is in place but at one point in time we were in a cold war with them
Not long ago. So do you all feel like it will never return to back to business as usual eventually. Or not in our lifetime? >:(
They are sporting rifles anyway. It's not like they are "assault weapons." The Saigas and VEPRs are all in sporting configuration.
Maybe Izhmash and Molot can find a way around this, maybe import through a different country/company? It only bans the company Izhmash/Kalashnikov Concern, not the actual firearms. So what's to stop any other company from importing them?
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does this mean prices of ALL aks go up due to less on the market???
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does this mean prices of ALL aks go up due to less on the market???
Probably. Mostly due to a combination of unscrupulous dealers and uninformed buyers.
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Probably. Mostly due to a combination of unscrupulous dealers and uninformed buyers.
A local LGS already gave warning that their stock is going on gun broker if local folks don't come in and buy them "before open market prices go into effect"
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MAINEPREPPER's one of my favorite YouTube channels too. :thumbsup:
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now with the shooting down of the civilian airliner russia pushed themselves in a corner now europe goina have to make stricter sanctions. That russian president puttin he screwd up big time, eroupe might ban all ak guns just gotta wait and see, whos backing up russia is china, and they ain't saying anything because they can get swollowed up in economic sanctions too remember by banning AK's in russia now you got the chinease versioin of the AK and now china can profit off of Russia's mess, so right now china is sitting pretty now, thats what you call economics, if you cant get your guns in one country theres alway another
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There is a couple of American companies that claim the have engineering rights and capabilities let everyone panic and pay outrageous prices when the mass manufacturing comes out ill purchase 4 for the prices that are coming in the following days.
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Claim (They* ) have
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A local LGS already gave warning that their stock is going on gun broker if local folks don't come in and buy them "before open market prices go into effect"
Its a free market.
An AR > AK anyways :rofl:
But an AK will always be a sign of freedom..which is slowly eroding under our feet :grrr:
(http://www.threeimaginarygirls.com/files/uploaded-images/wolverines.jpg)
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Its a free market.
An AR > AK anyways :rofl:
But an AK will always be a sign of freedom..which is slowly eroding under our feet :grrr:
(http://www.threeimaginarygirls.com/files/uploaded-images/wolverines.jpg)
Ha.....Just saw a guy buying Red Dawn today, love that movie.
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red dawn just like rambo don't work anymore we gotta go bigger and better.I wonder how much used bradley tanks go for?
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now with the shooting down of the civilian airliner russia pushed themselves in a corner now europe goina have to make stricter sanctions. That russian president puttin he screwd up big time, eroupe might ban all ak guns just gotta wait and see, whos backing up russia is china, and they ain't saying anything because they can get swollowed up in economic sanctions too remember by banning AK's in russia now you got the chinease versioin of the AK and now china can profit off of Russia's mess, so right now china is sitting pretty now, thats what you call economics, if you cant get your guns in one country theres alway another
China and Russia share thousands of miles of border and they are the largest net importer of oil in the world. That's why China is silent, they just signed a huge energy contract with Russia.
I realize this is a gun forum but the economics is, this is about energy not about AKs.
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Back door gun control in my opinion I wonder whats next? >:( >:(
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red dawn just like rambo don't work anymore we gotta go bigger and better.I wonder how much used bradley tanks go for?
Nah those are like carriers, make great targets.
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Some say we will never get it back after a ban is in place but at one point in time we were in a cold war with them
Not long ago. So do you all feel like it will never return to back to business as usual eventually. Or not in our lifetime? >:(
Only time will tell but if history is any indicator, usually when it comes to firearms and ammo...once they take it away, it's not coming back. Chinese AKs and ammo is a excellent example and then there is 7n6 ammo of recent...I suspect it's gone for good. It doesn't matter what party is in control...none of them seem to want to go down that murky road of bringing back banned stuff.
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I read the newly increased sanctions includes another Russian manufacturer. I couldn't find who exactly, I think it will be released tomorrow. EU also stepping up the sanctions.
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There are companies here already that can build ak's. So I don't see it as a real big deal.
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Not to worry! I understand AKs and many other firearms are headed to the US as we speak! :thumbsup:
(http://i.imgur.com/QlbpGne.jpg)
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Does this mean Russian AK ammo will be banned
As well?
Like Tulammo
Thats what i hear
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