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General Topics => Off Topic => Topic started by: ren on September 16, 2015, 07:45:34 AM
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http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/texas-student-says-hes-falsely-accused-making-hoax-bomb (http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/texas-student-says-hes-falsely-accused-making-hoax-bomb)
If he was white or Asian I don't think he would be arrested
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Yup, that's straight up retarded.
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Reminds me of that girl arrest in the airport for an electronic art project shirt.
http://www.dailytech.com/MIT+Student+Arrested+at+Gunpoint+in+Airport+for+Electronics+Shirt/article9004.htm
I am surprised the officer would take the arrest just based on that... unless the clock was connected to some road flares....
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Reminds me of that girl arrest in the airport for an electronic art project shirt.
http://www.dailytech.com/MIT+Student+Arrested+at+Gunpoint+in+Airport+for+Electronics+Shirt/article9004.htm
I am surprised the officer would take the arrest just based on that... unless the clock was connected to some road flares....
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That MIT girl at the airport was deliberately trying to provoke an incident.
Why else would she be wearing an electronic board on her clothing while carrying playdough at an airport?
She admits that she likes crazy ideas.
I do feel badly for the kid with the clock tho...
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“I tried making a phone call to my father. They said, ‘You’re in the middle of an interrogation. You can’t have a phone call,’” he said.
Seriously? Interrogating a 14-year-old kid without his parents or an attorney present, then tell him he can't have a phone call? Good job, enjoy the lawsuit...
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Hope the "False Arrest" record does not affect his opportunity to go to the college of his choice
with all that cash he collects for his education from the Racial discrimination, rights violations etc.... suits ;D
If it was such a real threat, why did they not evacuate the school and call the bomb squad ? :wacko:
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Obama invited this kid to bring his clock to the White House.
Would Obama have done this for a student without a Muslim last name?
Did I miss the story where he invited the families of slain White Cops resulting from calls to violence by Black Lives Matter protesters?
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Reminds me of that girl arrest in the airport for an electronic art project shirt.
http://www.dailytech.com/MIT+Student+Arrested+at+Gunpoint+in+Airport+for+Electronics+Shirt/article9004.htm
I am surprised the officer would take the arrest just based on that... unless the clock was connected to some road flares....
"possessing a hoax device" :wacko:
:wtf:
flour = Possessing hoax cocaine
sleeping = Possessing hoax suicide
oregano = Possessing hoax Marijuana
ex girl friend = Possessing hoax whore
microwave = Possessing a hoax nuclear device
toy stuffed seal = Possessing hoax endangered species
Nerf Gun = Possessing a hoax...Oh wait, we've seen that one already. :crazy:
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"possessing a hoax device" :wacko:
:wtf:
flour = Possessing hoax cocaine
sleeping = Possessing hoax suicide
oregano = Possessing hoax Marijuana
ex girl friend = Possessing hoax whore
microwave = Possessing a hoax nuclear device
toy stuffed seal = Possessing hoax endangered species
Nerf Gun = Possessing a hoax...Oh wait, we've seen that one already. :crazy:
And then there are more dangerous hoaxes to which we turn a blind eye ...
(http://i.imgur.com/hdX18TZ.jpg)
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Was it a Clock 17?
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For some reason this made me think of the time Gohan told Vegeta his dragon radar was a clock, and Vegeta believed him...
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SIPzTiId0ns/T08SZTyrL3I/AAAAAAAALyQ/M5XOYiawRsg/s1600/dbz58-16.jpg)
...then got super pissed when he found out the truth.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-4Otbm2nVwts/T08SaeYoFlI/AAAAAAAALyw/zTShlmFg0Hg/s1600/dbz58-20.jpg)
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Here is the clock he made.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/16/a738fc18c789a3c8832e6da593ac20e2.jpg)
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Was it a Clock 17?
It may have been a clock 7...
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Here is the clock he made.
(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/09/16/a738fc18c789a3c8832e6da593ac20e2.jpg)
Is that before, or after, the bomb squad got to it? Seems kinda crunched! :wacko:
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Welcome to America, where are your paperz?
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After seeing what the clock actually looks like I don't blame the teacher for calling it in but it could have been handled better. You can thank the liberals for the no tolerance policy that get's kids kicked out of school for bringing a letter opener to class or having a butter knife in their truck.
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arrest this guy!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-rpaiadAzKl0/T8E1GA4XwWI/AAAAAAAABH4/uRiwYQOyG5o/s1600/flava-flav.jpg)
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arrest this guy!
I could have gone all month without seeing that! Gee, thanks!
:wacko: :rofl:
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Not saying this is the case, but is it possible this thing looked like a bomb or the child said something inappropriate that would have led someone to thinking it was a bomb and then when the kid got arrested he told the police and his dad some innocent story that the media then picked up as true?
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OK, a kid of obvious ME descent, named AHMED MOHAMMED builds a "clock" that looks like a bomb and brings it to school.
He gets arrested, because it looks like a bomb.
Racial profiling? Yep. But, I think that any kid who brought something like this to school these days would've had a problem. I don't see any explosive compounds in this picture, but how difficult would it really be? I had the knowledge at 14 to build explosive devices from commonly available products and that same knowledge is widely available via the internet now.
I would say this is a "Better safe than sorry" moment. Teachers don't generally know squat about bombs, better to leave it to a pro.
Kids being expelled for biting pop tarts into the shape of a gun is ludicrous, this is one time, as a parent, that I think they made the right call.
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again.
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After seeing what the clock actually looks like I don't blame the teacher for calling it in but it could have been handled better. You can thank the liberals for the no tolerance policy that get's kids kicked out of school for bringing a letter opener to class or having a butter knife in their truck.
Agree on that. Let's not forget the WV kid suspended and arrested for wearing a NRA shirt, little kids suspended for eating a piece of bread that looked like a pistol and other over-reactions. Unless that photo is the aftermath of want the clock looked , it sure looks like something other than a regular clock. Imagine if that device was found at HNL or the White house lawn, somebody would definitely have been arrested and guarans Barry wouldn't be inviting the arrestee to the West Wing especially if he was an evangelical Christian wearing a NRA hat.
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our country has made up for the mishap, i think the positive response by our country is something to cheer about, but had he not been arrested he wouldn't have gotten the opportunities offered by the president, zuckerberg, and MIT that he now has on his platter. A negative situation turning positive...that is something to talk about. :shaka:
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"See something, say something" was started to encourage people to get involved. It was an attempt to get the public to be less complacent and report to law enforcement things that "just don't look right."
The campaign had as its foundation the deaths of thousands of people at the hands of Muslim Terrorists.
So, if we are going to ridicule and call people racists, Islamaphobes, idiots and paranoids for doing exactly what the campaign told us to do, then what message is that sending to Americans?
"Say something if you see something -- as long as it won't offend peaceful Muslims, minorities, women, or gays."
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What I find interesting is everyone thought it was a bomb yet the school wasn't evacuated or anything of that sort from the reports I've seen.
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What if the response to the so-called clock was exactly what the father of the Muslim kid hoped for?
The New York Daily News reported that Mohamed’s father, Mohamed ElHassan, has a history of
making the news by “standing up” for his faith.
“One of the earliest instances of the standout citizen making national news was in 2011, when he
sensationally stood up to an anti-Islamic pastor and defended the Koran as its defense attorney.
That mock trial at a Florida church ended with the book’s burning, to ElHassan’s claimed shock,”
the Daily News reported.
Apparently “standout citizen” and troublemaker now mean the same thing, at least to the Daily News.
ElHassan also ran for president of Sudan, his homeland, in 2010. He ran again this year from his home in Texas.
ElHassan appeared to be milking every second of airtime out of this controversy he can possibly get.
He has taken an innocent mistake and blown it way out of proportion, making some wonder if perhaps
he staged this whole event just for the publicity.
http://conservativetribune.com/the-shocking-truth-bomb-clock/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=TPNNPages&utm_content=2015-09-18
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Wait, what? A muzz perpetrating a hoax to provoke a response so he could scream racism (although muzz is not a race) and persecution?
Say it ain't so, no more than a homosexual would set up a phony attack on themselves, or a minority set up a fake "hate crime".............
Those things just do not happen.......... ;D
/sarcasm off
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Wait, what? A muzz perpetrating a hoax to provoke a response so he could scream racism (although muzz is not a race) and persecution?
Say it ain't so, no more than a homosexual would set up a phony attack on themselves, or a minority set up a fake "hate crime".............
Those things just do not happen.......... ;D
/sarcasm off
check out this 13 year old kid going off on the President
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/09/18/ted-cruz-ninja-is-13-black-and-just-shredded-obama-on-muslim-clock-boy/?tid=pm_national_pop_b
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This story is starting to fall apart.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/18/real-story-istandwithahmed/
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This story is starting to fall apart.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/18/real-story-istandwithahmed/
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_w5crfNFESpM/TB9UIiEjjMI/AAAAAAAABuk/eWpYR82SPzk/s1600/Casablanca_ClaudeRains_Shocked.jpg)
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The components of the clock were NOT something the kid built. It was a commercial clock disassembled and installed in a pencil box without the original case.
https://youtu.be/CEmSwJTqpgY
More specifics on the actual clock used (best guess):
http://blogs.artvoice.com/techvoice/2015/09/17/reverse-engineering-ahmed-mohameds-clock-and-ourselves/#.VfyXE-cR6EM.twitter
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Well I think something about this story stinks and it's not cause Hillary forgot to wipe.
Same goes with the guy asking Trump about Barry being a Muslim. I think the guy was a plant the way his question was worded.
No one needs to defend Barry.
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This little Jackoff tried to make it look like a bomb.
A) He should be punished for his actions.
B) The media should stop glamorizing these little terrorist, attention seekers. Quietly deport them.
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This little Jackoff tried to make it look like a bomb.
A) He should be punished for his actions.
B) The media should stop glamorizing these little terrorist, attention seekers. Quietly deport them.
C) President Obama, Mark Zuckerberg and The President of MIT should all apologize to America for jumping on the "Islamophobia" bandwagon, and for being stupid enough to be taken in by these two scammers.
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C) President Obama, Mark Zuckerberg and The President of MIT should all apologize to America for jumping on the "Islamophobia" bandwagon, and for being stupid enough to be taken in by these two scammers.
They don't owe an apology to America, they should just rescind their invitations to this boy. The media reported it one way and people reacted to what was said in the news. From the initial news report it was not obvious the boy was doing something wrong. I was suspicious of the story but it is entirely plausible that a teacher over reacted.
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They don't owe an apology to America, they should just rescind their invitations to this boy. The media reported it one way and people reacted to what was said in the news. From the initial news report it was not obvious the boy was doing something wrong. I was suspicious of the story but it is entirely plausible that a teacher over reacted.
They owe us an apology for being so quick to believe this was an overreaction based on ethnicity and religious affiliation BEFORE WAITING FOR ALL THE FACTS. This is not the first time Obama has done this. The stupid "beer summit" with the white Cop was an apology. He needs to apologize to us all for continually stating an opinion (in this case, trying to go the next step and give the "victim" special privileges) with no other facts than what's in the news.
Obama was WRONG about the officer arresting the professor.
He was WRONG about Trayvon Martin.
He was WRONG about Mike Brown.
He was WRONG about this student, based on the latest analysis.
And the only reason Obama weighed in so quickly on these issues is ........... ?
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They owe us an apology for being so quick to believe this was an overreaction based on ethnicity and religious affiliation BEFORE WAITING FOR ALL THE FACTS. This is not the first time Obama has done this. The stupid "beer summit" with the white Cop was an apology. He needs to apologize to us all for continually stating an opinion (in this case, trying to go the next step and give the "victim" special privileges) with no other facts than what's in the news.
Obama was WRONG about the officer arresting the professor.
He was WRONG about Trayvon Martin.
He was WRONG about Mike Brown.
He was WRONG about this student, based on the latest analysis.
And the only reason Obama weighed in so quickly on these issues is ........... ?
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He didn't wrong me, he doesn't owe me an apology. He just made himself look foolish, thats all.
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He didn't wrong me, he doesn't owe me an apology. He just made himself look foolish, thats all.
No, he's doing more than looking foolish. He's driving a wedge between Americans everywhere he can. Playing the minority and Islamophobe cards are not things our President should be doing at all, particularly when there has been no time to get all the facts.
He doesn't want the facts. Just like he doesn't want them after a shooting event. He has an agenda when these stories happen, and he's too quick to push those agendas when most of the time they are not related to the real stories.
If you don't feel he's done anything to apologize to YOU for, that's okay. I think most of us who see his MO in these situations feel we are being manipulated and scammed into believing the divisive rhetoric he wraps these stories in.
He's not acting foolishly. He's doing this on purpose.
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He's doing this on purpose.
Then I guess he is purposefully making himself look foolish.
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13 year old calls out Obama over the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUtirCf-RfU
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Watch this 20 second video to replicate child prodigy Ahmed's clock so you can get invited by the Whitehouse, MIT and Facebook too! :thumbsup:
https://youtu.be/kHk_6Vh4Qeo
What a scam!!!!
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Anyone remember Heath kits?
They were a kit that included parts, and instructions, for various electronic projects. I believe the ones from the 80's included parts for something like this.
I was in Radio Shack a while back and saw one, or something similar under a different brand name.
My point being, this is hardly MIT/get invited to the White House kind of stuff, even if he bought the parts.
I did this kind of thing in 5th and 6th grade. { yes, I was a nerd, and if you tell anyone I'll kick your ass }
This is obvious media propaganda.
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Anyone remember Heath kits?
Still have several of the ones I built. 12V Power supply, timing light (not so useful these days), electric guitar amp is long gone.
The foolish and non-technical refuse to acknowledge that this "clock" is what the muzz use as the timer for their beloved IEDs. Better than cell phones, cannot be detected or jammed.
Also, nice, large electronics, easy to tap into, as opposed to the movie BS of using digital wrist watches. Who the hell is going to have the dexterity to solder in the innards of a freaking wristwatch, and why would they, when they can get a cheap digital clock from RadioShack?
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Run! Don't walk!! :wacko:
Scholarship fund for Ahmed Mohamed
Goal = $60,000
https://www.gofundme.com/istandwithahmed
$59,734.
That is the cost of nine months tuition, living expenses, books, expenses, and fees at MIT.
That's what we should raise for Ahmed. Students like Ahmed should be praised for their feats in STEM, not arrested, interrogated, and blamed for being "less than forthcoming."
All funds are now being transferred to them directly.
The New York Times coverage is here .
The Washington Post coverage is here .
Thank you, Anil Dash @anildash and Ed Ho @mrdonut for your encouragement to create this fundraiser.
#IStandWithAhmed #ClocksNotGlocks :wtf:
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http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-seriously-hooked-ahmed-mohamed-150152426.html
The dumb thing now is that this kid and his parents will make money over this stunt. He should be charged with creating a hoax bomb by the authorities and penalized an amount greater than what he earned.
Obama and the media should also apologize to the public for their reaction to this story.
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Poor Ahmed has to change schools. It has "torn the family" and Ahmed has trouble sleeping and he lost his appetite!
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/boy-withdraws-from-school-that-suspended-him-over-clock/ar-AAeAvWO?li=BBgzzfc&ocid=iehp
Funny that doesn't stop him from looking happy to go onto national news interviews and claim he made something that he invented something that he really didn't.
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After looking at the picture, I don't feel so bad about the kid being arrested. It's pretty obvious that it was a hoax bomb.
I've built quite a few electronic devices myself, even printing my own circuit boards.
That creation is not something new, innovative, or useful for any practical purpose.
When I have time, I'll post some pics of REAL home made electronic devices that I created.
The key thing is that when you go through the effort of engineering a custom device, you are trying to meet a specific need or solve a problem.
There is none of that in this case.
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Civil beat now has an article praising this young man.
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http://news.yahoo.com/microsoft-seriously-hooked-ahmed-mohamed-150152426.html
The dumb thing now is that this kid and his parents will make money over this stunt. He should be charged with creating a hoax bomb by the authorities and penalized an amount greater than what he earned.
Obama and the media should also apologize to the public for their reaction to this story.
He'll make more money and garner more attention if he was a transgendered teen who wanted to go into a female locker room with his "homemade clock"
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Everyone is to quick to defend this little asswipe. Let the story play out as more info rolls in. What the asswipe created is a basic timer, which could be used as a bomb making component. As swipes dad ran for the presidency of Sudan, twice! and belongs to the Irving, Texas Mosque that wants Sharia Law/Court implemented for its Muslim citizens in Irving.
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(http://i.imgur.com/4NMY02M.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/4NMY02M.jpg)
Hahahahaahhaahahaha... wonder if we have any muslims on this forum...
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Breitbart is reporting that this kid's sister was suspended 3 years ago for some bomb scare. Runs in the family. I don't blame the school for anything.
MIT folks, celebrities, BHO and family should experience all the "wonders" of living under sharia law for 5 years or however long they survive whichever comes first.
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Breitbart is reporting that this kid's sister was suspended 3 years ago for some bomb scare. Runs in the family. I don't blame the school for anything.
MIT folks, celebrities, BHO and family should experience all the "wonders" of living under sharia law for 5 years or however long they survive whichever comes first.
The main point of the daughter being suspended for saying she wanted to blow up the school is ...
The father and the son were both very much aware after that suspension, if not before, what the school's reaction would be to any bomb threat -- real or fake.
The two were hoping for the outcome they got. They expected it. They were prepared to capitalize on it. The son even rehearsed his part of being passive-aggressive to the police.
It really bothers me that people are so easily manipulated when it comes to political correctness. Obama, MIT, Zuckerberg, the media, all the Obama voters Gruber told us about ...
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Well at least the school is not backing down and apologizing for the suspension of the boy.
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It will be interesting to see how far this goes and what comes out of the "investigation".
http://conservativepost.com/clock-maker-family-facing-charges-after-incident-is-exposed-as-a-hoax/ (http://conservativepost.com/clock-maker-family-facing-charges-after-incident-is-exposed-as-a-hoax/)
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Is anyone actually investigating it ?
The family just hired lawyers to get the clock back.
And of course sue for the son's emotional trauma. (As evidenced by his big smile and peace sign, his attending Google shindig, accepting trip to the White House, etc. )
If no one is investigating it, they should.
Right now it just seems like Internet banter.
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Is anyone actually investigating it ?
The family just hired lawyers to get the clock back.
And of course sue for the son's emotional trauma. (As evidenced by his big smile and peace sign, his attending Google shindig, accepting trip to the White House, etc. )
If no one is investigating it, they should.
Right now it just seems like Internet banter.
The president’s spokesman said the episode was a case study in unreasoned [sic] prejudice in an era when
the country is fighting Islamic terrorism at home and in the Middle East.
“This episode is a good illustration of how pernicious stereotypes can prevent even good-hearted people who have
dedicated their lives to educating young people from doing the good work that they set out to do,” said Josh Earnest,
the White House press secretary.
This is a repeat of Obama saying the police "acted stupidly." Based on nothing more than initial news reports, he is injecting prejudice as a cause rather than looking at the facts of the case and then making an informed public statement. Another knee-jerk reaction to further an agenda despite a lack of evidence supporting prejudice as a factor.
Typical race baiting BS from the White House, and this time it was intentionally instigated by the "victim."
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Been reading comments all over about the sister getting suspended for a previous bomb threat, but can't find the articles. Can someone link them here?
edit: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/ahmeds-sister-admits-school-suspension-alleged-bomb-threat-3-years-earlier/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/ahmeds-sister-admits-school-suspension-alleged-bomb-threat-3-years-earlier/)
After reading this article, I think the bit about the sister's bomb threat has been misinterpreted and greatly exaggerated by most people. Just try to read the article carefully for facts and actual statements; don't be swayed by the biased way in which the article is written. It's still a great lead to investigate, but more facts are needed.
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Been reading comments all over about the sister getting suspended for a previous bomb threat, but can't find the articles. Can someone link them here?
edit: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/ahmeds-sister-admits-school-suspension-alleged-bomb-threat-3-years-earlier/ (http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/23/ahmeds-sister-admits-school-suspension-alleged-bomb-threat-3-years-earlier/)
After reading this article, I think the bit about the sister's bomb threat has been misinterpreted and greatly exaggerated by most people. Just try to read the article carefully for facts and actual statements; don't be swayed by the biased way in which the article is written. It's still a great lead to investigate, but more facts are needed.
The facts I've read say:
1. The sister said she wanted to blow up the school
2. The sister was reported by a classmate to school officials
3. The school suspended her for 3 days
4. The 2 kids in that family have now demonstrated a possible pattern of threatening violence against the school, whether real or fake, physically or verbally, with no regard for laws or policies prohibiting such threats
5. After the sister's suspension, there is no way they could have been ignorant of the school's policy and reaction regarding safety threats at school
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https://youtu.be/fzXCLskVkfg
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We Americans are so full of ourselves that we went full retard on this.
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One common denominator to all this crap that the MSM is desperately ignoring, and even here on 2AHawaii.
I admit I was not taught new math or even whatever this common corpse crap is, but it this country really this stupid and/or brainwashed?
Among the 2A faithful, I am likely shouting at the storm, but Geezus, are we that far down the toilet?
Yeah, drunken post, but whatever.......................
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One common denominator to all this crap that the MSM is desperately ignoring, and even here on 2AHawaii.
I admit I was not taught new math or even whatever this common corpse crap is, but it this country really this stupid and/or brainwashed?
Among the 2A faithful, I am likely shouting at the storm, but Geezus, are we that far down the toilet?
Yeah, drunken post, but whatever.......................
Let's ask Mr. Gruber ....
https://youtu.be/Adrdmmh7bMo
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Let's ask Mr. Gruber ....
https://youtu.be/Adrdmmh7bMo
Prime example of college trash who think they know things, too bad it's mostly theory and no fact.
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"Dr," Gruber reminds me of a story where a 30 something with a PHD gets a job in a shipyard and tells his 20 something boss to call him Dr. Smith (name changed to protect the lolo). 20 something boss tells him, Smith get your a$$ to work. Smith lasts less than 6 months.
The power of a PHD in the real working world.
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Apparently the media is helping the family spread more lies. They are reporting the police are refusing to return the clock for an undisclosed reason.
The police have repeatedly made statements the family was notified a week ago that all materials associated with the arrest were available for the father or a representative to come pick up.
I guess as long as it fits the agenda, that's the version certain people will go with!
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https://youtu.be/TEDXWtq_B3s
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I generally accept all of mauidog's facts except for his fact #1. I didn't see that stated in the article. And without that crucial fact, all the other facts become only accusations, not proof of anything.
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I generally accept all of mauidog's facts except for his fact #1. I didn't see that stated in the article. And without that crucial fact, all the other facts become only accusations, not proof of anything.
Are you saying you need to see where the sister admitted to saying she wanted to blow up the school?
Well, that won't happen. She confirmed she was suspended, and she confirmed it was because she was reported to have said she wanted to blow the school up.
You have to ask whether or not you believe her when she denies what was reported, or if you believe (1) another student wouldn't make up something that serious and (2) the school must have had sufficient cause for the suspension.
If you believe the sister never said it, then you have to believe the other student was lying and the school didn't require corroboration.
The sister claimed after the arrest that she had been suspended from a school for several days.
“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I
wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with,” she said, without providing
evidence or proof.
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With no facts to prove things either way, I do not take a side in deciding who is telling the truth and who is lying. And neither should anyone else, as far as I'm concerned. Doing so would be jumping to conclusions.
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With no facts to prove things either way, I do not take a side in deciding who is telling the truth and who is lying. And neither should anyone else, as far as I'm concerned. Doing so would be jumping to conclusions.
You must still be Ready for Hillary ...
:rofl:
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With no facts to prove things either way, I do not take a side in deciding who is telling the truth and who is lying. And neither should anyone else, as far as I'm concerned. Doing so would be jumping to conclusions.
Let me see if I can explain this better.
The point is NOT whether the sister lied or was telling the truth. That is irrelevant.
The point is, she was suspended over a comment she REPORTEDLY made about blowing up the school.
The fact she was suspended, which is not disputed, tells us the family knew the school would absolutely take a bomb threat of any sort seriously. They suspended the sister. That's historical proof of what the school's posture is.
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Let me see if I can explain this better.
The point is NOT whether the sister lied or was telling the truth. That is irrelevant.
The point is, she was suspended over a comment she REPORTEDLY made about blowing up the school.
The fact she was suspended, which is not disputed, tells us the family knew the school would absolutely take a bomb threat of any sort seriously. They suspended the sister. That's historical proof of what the school's posture is.
Would that be from any family or only the Muslim family in town ?
Lying or telling the truth is irrelevant. There's a quote.
Suspended for reportedly...There's due process.
Teen girls never have squabbles.
And Lord knows no white girl in Texas would ever allege a Muslim girl would want to blow up the school in order to get back at her.
I still think this should be investigated for motive.
It's still fishy.
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Would that be from any family or only the Muslim family in town ?
Lying or telling the truth is irrelevant. There's a quote.
Suspended for reportedly...There's due process.
Teen girls never have squabbles.
And Lord knows no white girl in Texas would ever allege a Muslim girl would want to blow up the school.
I still think this should be investigated for motive.
It's still fishy.
Trolling so early on a Friday? How nice!
Let's just twist my comment and call it "a quote".
Talk about being dishonest!
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The point is NOT whether the sister lied or was telling the truth. That is irrelevant.
I included the actual quote in my post didn't I ?
Dammit, thought I did.
Wait, yeah I did !
Only trying to be honest. :D
Better look up the definition of trolling though.
These are real questions.
The way you dodge questions and issues with personal attacks.
You must still be Ready for Hillary ...
:rofl:
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I included the actual quote in my post didn't I ?
Dammit, thought I did.
Wait, yeah I did !
Only trying to be honest. :D
Better look up the definition of trolling though.
These are real questions.
The way you dodge questions and issues with personal attacks.
The point is NOT whether the sister lied or was telling the truth. That is irrelevant.
Lying or telling the truth is irrelevant. There's a quote.
Not the same. Need help figuring that out? Ask EyeEatingFish to help you! O0
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Whether the sister lied or was was telling the truth. That is irrelevant.
Lying or telling the truth is irrelevant.
Anyone, what's the difference ?
Would that be from any family or only the Muslim family in town ?
Suspended for reportedly...There's due process.
Teen girls never have squabbles.
And Lord knows no white girl in Texas would ever allege a Muslim girl would want to blow up the school in order to get back at her.
I still think this should be investigated for motive.
It's still fishy.
The last part The clock thing I mean.
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Aieahound is right, the story about the sister is circumstantial at best. It is entirely possible that the sister made a comment about wanting to blow up the school and it is entirely possible that someone who didn't like her would have made up such a claim. And being a juvenile the school probably won't release details about their own decision.
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Aieahound is right, the story about the sister is circumstantial at best. It is entirely possible that the sister made a comment about wanting to blow up the school and it is entirely possible that someone who didn't like her would have made up such a claim. And being a juvenile the school probably won't release details about their own decision.
+1 :thumbsup:
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Lying or telling the truth is irrelevant.
Y'all are familiar with the muzzie term taqiya I trust? Lying to infidels is permitted.
That may well come into play with the little game this family is playing.
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Aieahound is right, the story about the sister is circumstantial at best. It is entirely possible that the sister made a comment about wanting to blow up the school and it is entirely possible that someone who didn't like her would have made up such a claim. And being a juvenile the school probably won't release details about their own decision.
When you have a witness who heard the girl make a threat against the school, that is called DIRECT EVIDENCE.
You might want to read the definition of circumstantial again. Perry Mason!
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When you have a witness who heard the girl make a threat against the school, that is called DIRECT EVIDENCE.
You might want to read the definition of circumstantial again. Perry Mason!
It is circumstantial as to whether this boy's actions was some scheme. The story about the sister doesn't prove anything, it would just be consistent with the scenario that there is some master plan, thus it is circumstantial.
As far as whether this girl really did make a bomb threat I don't know. Just because she was suspended for that allegation doesn't convince me that she actually did. I say this because school discipline is not always known for its just nature or burden of proof. I could give a number of experiences both personal and from other sources in which school officials doled out discipline that didn't fit reality if you wanted. Maybe the girl admitted to it, maybe there was a note recovered, it certainly is possible she made a bomb threat, I just am not going to jump on the bandwagon to assume she is guilty in light of her brother's actions without more information on her case.
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Is that your final answer?
First you said, "The story about the girl is circumstantial at best."
Now, you changed it to, "it's circumstantial as to whether the boy's actions was some scheme."
You failed to answer whether the story about the girl is still circumstantial in your mind. Maybe you have a tough time admitting when you are wrong? And I was being nice when I used "maybe."
Are you going to keep substituting parts of the story in your statement until you hit on something that actually coincides with your description?
Discussing anything with you is like trying to catch a greased pig!
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Got this from another site. Funny but true.
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Is that your final answer?
First you said, "The story about the girl is circumstantial at best."
Now, you changed it to, "it's circumstantial as to whether the boy's actions was some scheme."
You failed to answer whether the story about the girl is still circumstantial in your mind. Maybe you have a tough time admitting when you are wrong? And I was being nice when I used "maybe."
Are you going to keep substituting parts of the story in your statement until you hit on something that actually coincides with your description?
Discussing anything with you is like trying to catch a greased pig!
I didn't change my stance, I guess I just failed to make my statement clear enough for you to understand. If someone says they heard you threaten to blow up a school that isn't circumstantial thus I figured it would be obvious I was talking about her story in relation to Ahmed's case. I will try to spell things out for you next time I use adult words.
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I didn't change my stance, I guess I just failed to make my statement clear enough for you to understand. If someone says they heard you threaten to blow up a school that isn't circumstantial thus I figured it would be obvious I was talking about her story in relation to Ahmed's case. I will try to spell things out for you next time I use adult words.
Oh, now you're attacking me personally?
That's always a good sign you've lost the debate and have nothing new to say.
I'm done with you.
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Oh, now you're attacking me personally?
That's always a good sign you've lost the debate and have nothing new to say.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Are you shittin' us.
That's exactly YOUR MO.
Not an attack. Just an observation.
Still think we need a serious investigation into this clock thing though.
Is this family/the father up to no good ?
Are they setting the table up for something ?
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Clock boy was invited to the google science fair.
Imho he does not deserve to breath the same air as these young innovators.
Follow this link to see what I mean.
https://www.googlesciencefair.com/en/
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:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Are you shittin' us.
That's exactly YOUR MO.
Not an attack. Just an observation.
(http://i.imgur.com/Tb037wg.jpg)
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(http://i.imgur.com/Nwbxoka.jpg)
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Oh, now you're attacking me personally?
That's always a good sign you've lost the debate and have nothing new to say.
I'm done with you.
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Hahaha, now that is the pot calling the kettle black. Though I have often disagreed with you, I had never insulted you despite multiple sarcastic and/or insulting comments from you. Now I bite back once and you are claiming the high ground?
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Clock boy was invited to the google science fair.
Imho he does not deserve to breath the same air as these young innovators.
Follow this link to see what I mean.
https://www.googlesciencefair.com/en/
Amen. In fact some news journalist should interview him and have Ahmed show on air how he "invented" the clock. See if he really even knows anything about electronics or soldering.
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The fact she was suspended, which is not disputed, tells us the family knew the school would absolutely take a bomb threat of any sort seriously.
Yeah you previously mentioned this as your fact #5, and I agreed with it. It also survives perfectly even without fact #1 (whether the accusations against the sister are true).
I did say at the beginning that I really liked this story against the sister, and that's still true. It just turned out that when I checked into the details, it was misinterpreted and overblown. Nevertheless, it's still a strike against the family.
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Clock-building teen is moving to the Middle East (http://news.yahoo.com/congressman-praises-teen-arrested-over-homemade-clock-142552765.html)
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"Less than 24 hours after Ahmed Mohamed met President Obama, his family decided it’s time to leave America for good."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/clock-kid-ahmed-mohamed-and-his-family-will-move-to-qatar/2015/10/20/a95ed296-7762-11e5-b9c1-f03c48c96ac2_story.html
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Bye! :wave:
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Good riddance.
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Got a feeling he'll be back.
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Got a feeling he'll be back.
Agreed. They will realize how good they had it here after they leave and go wherever they intend to. As the Terminator once said "I'll be back!"
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Agreed. They will realize how good they had it here after they leave and go wherever they intend to. As the Terminator once said "I'll be back!"
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I think I read they are going to doha, qatar... the richest country in the world.
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Just realized, he still had all that money fund raised for him... He should give it back if he is not going to stay here and become an "inventor"
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Just realized, he still had all that money fund raised for him... He should give it back if he is not going to stay here and become an "inventor"
They never had any intention of sending him to MIT. It was all a scam!
And leaving the country (jurisdiction) means they are not able to be sued or arrested for fraud.
Planned this the whole time. There's no way they suddenly decided to leave the country!
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They never had any intention of sending him to MIT. It was all a scam!
And leaving the country (jurisdiction) means they are not able to be sued or arrested for fraud.
Planned this the whole time. There's no way they suddenly decided to leave the country!
notice they never announced they were leaving the country until after the tour was over and they had met the president
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I'm sure they would have sent him to MIT if he wanted to go there and got in someday. It's far from impossible to be accepted. It only costs twice as much as UH does these days, and if his family didn't have enough he could get a scholarship.
Kid and his family have now made out great, for something they probably did not deserve. I remember the money fund linked earlier, but as far as I could tell from these most recent articles, they are talking about an entirely different money fund, sponsored from Qatar. I don't know if the earlier fund was ever real, but the new sponsorship is probably far greater anyway.
If the US government wants to prosecute, which I'd like to see them do but doubt they ever will, they still have time to do it as he has not left the country yet.
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I think I read they are going to doha, qatar... the richest country in the world.
He may still not enjoy it there....
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/10/23/alarm-bell-texas-clock-boy-may-not-enjoy-time-in-qatar/?intcmp=hpbt2
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“...it is a sad day for America that we lost an American family to religious intolerance.”
He'll probably do great over there, and maybe even become a real terrorist leader against the United States one day. That's the sad result of all of this. And in some twisted way his actions would be justified, due to the hate he received while he was in this country. After his bomb scare, the US media gave him support he did not deserve, but before that, he was persecuted in the same way he is being criticized in this thread....
The article criticizes Qatar for being a typical middle east, intolerant country....but America isn't as perfect as we often insist it is, either.
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So long as once they leave, we never let them back in.......
He'll probably do great over there, and maybe even become a real terrorist leader against the United States one day. That's the sad result of all of this.
No it is not the result of all this.
The result of dismantling a clock, putting it in a briefcase and bringing it to school looking like a timing device ?
What did they think would happen, they would call him a rocket scientist ?
(Oh shit, the main stream media and the POTUS pretty much did. )
My kid got sent to the principals office for playing finger guns at recess. Luckily not suspended.
His friend got suspended for "smoking" smarties (they're like sweet tarts).
( they smash the smarties and blow out like the old school gum cigs)
This kid is not special and was not discriminated against IMO.
And in some twisted way his actions would be justified, due to the hate he received while he was in this country.
No. Not justified.
I took a lot of shit for being Haole when I was 14. I didn't blow shit up.
I know he hasn't blown anything up yet but that's what it seems you're inferring.
The article criticizes Qatar for being a typical middle east, intolerant country....but America isn't as perfect as we often insist it is, either.
Half in agreement there.
Although America's not intolerant by system. Only by individuals.
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I wasn't referring to the actions of the school as discrimination, I was referring to the general mistreatment he allegedly suffered at the hands of other students, which is probably what caused him to want to do the bomb stunt to begin with. I agree that is the fault of individuals, not the American system. Nevertheless, he'll probably be treated better in Qatar than he was here.
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He'll probably be a rock star in Qatar.
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Any bets how long before this kid gets his White House invitation??
https://youtu.be/hnBliIAoVOY
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Clock boy's family seeks $15 Million from the city and school district.
Despite several television appearances and worldwide travel, the Mohamed family says the attention ruined their lives and eventually drove them out of the country, lawyers said.
Sudanese state radio reported that his father took him to meet Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir.
The Sudanese leader is accused by the International Criminal Court of masterminding genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes during Sudan's Darfur conflict.
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-student-arrested-over-clock-seeks-millions-city-191022387.html
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Clock boy's family seeks $15 Million from the city and school district.
Despite several television appearances and worldwide travel, the Mohamed family says the attention ruined their lives and eventually drove them out of the country, lawyers said.
Sudanese state radio reported that his father took him to meet Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir.
The Sudanese leader is accused by the International Criminal Court of masterminding genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes during Sudan's Darfur conflict.
http://news.yahoo.com/texas-student-arrested-over-clock-seeks-millions-city-191022387.html
Douchebag family.
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Suck my clock, boy.
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just to add: all those politicians and famous people (Facebook CEO) who got behind clock boy should be ashamed that they supported an unimaginative kid with an agenda to defraud the American people.
Now all these children in that district will have car washes, sell cookies, lemonade and Zippys Chili tickets to make up the purported $15 million loss. Mr. Zuckerberg and Hillary Clinton should be buying a lot of cookies from that district.
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just to add: all those politicians and famous people (Facebook CEO) who got behind clock boy should be ashamed that they supported an unimaginative kid with an agenda to defraud the American people.
Now all these children in that district will have car washes, sell cookies, lemonade and Zippys Chili tickets to make up the purported $15 million loss. Mr. Zuckerberg and Hillary Clinton should be buying a lot of cookies from that district.
If any agency loses to, or has to pay lawyers to defend against, any lawsuit, they should turn around and sue personally any and all politicians and big mouth celebrities who cried racism over this hoax bomb. Obama especially should be held accountable for enabling this scam-family to raise money online for MIT and now extorting millions by threatening a lawsuit.
They supported the kid in words, and now they should do so with their own cash. Teach them there are consequences to their actions.
Liberals learning about consequences? Okay, now I know I'm sick! :crazy:
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This only makes the kid, his family, and anyone who supported him look worse. I think the city and school district should countersue. Can this kid still be prosecuted criminally?
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This only makes the kid, his family, and anyone who supported him look worse. I think the city and school district should countersue. Can this kid still be prosecuted criminally?
With the Great Divider in the White House? He'd have his DOJ sue for harassment anybody who tried to press charges after he made such an idiotic spectacle of himself over this scam artist family.
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/orlando-shooter-omar-mateen-father-134807124.html
Seddique Mateen is a US Citizen, the self-appointed President of Afghanistan, and the father of Omar Mateen, the man who killed more than 49 people at an Orlando nightclub this weekend in in the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. In the aftermath of the shooting...the elder Mateen appeared to fluctuate between grief and grandiosity.
This guy's father seems a lot like the clock kid's father.