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General Topics => Political Discussion => Topic started by: msp3 on July 28, 2020, 03:21:41 PM
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By HNN Staff | July 28, 2020 at 1:20 PM HST - Updated July 28 at 3:14 PM
HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - To address a surge in new COVID-19 cases on Oahu, Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell is proposing to shut down all bars on Oahu for three weeks.
The shutdown, he said, would allow the Honolulu Liquor Commission to come up with a stronger enforcement program. The request will need to be approved by the governor.
The mayor also wants to take other actions aimed at slowing the spread of coronavirus.
For one, he wants to make masks mandatory inside and outside, including when you’re walking or jogging, playing team sports or watching them. (Masks aren’t required in the water.)
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/28/live-mayor-holds-news-conference-new-covid-cases-continue-grow/
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Stronger enforcement of conduct in bars? Yeah, good luck with that. Looking forward (laughingly) at what they'll come up for bars. Special masks with port for a straw?
And I always thought of Caldwell as a hippie that occasionally does acid. Did some google surfing and low and behold, hippie facists are a "thing". :rofl:
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Home Depot and Walmart have flip-flopped on their mandates for customers wearing masks.
At first they said no exceptions. Then they came back and said they would not be denying customers not wearing masks access.
Legally, they can't force anyone to wear a mask who has a health condition that prevents it.
Also, they can't legally bar people without masks who have a health-related reason from shopping there.
Third, they can't ask customers what the nature of their health-related problem is.
Basically, the law prevents them from refusing service to people with disabilities, and they can't enquire as to the nature of the disability. Hence, any mask rules are unenforceable.
If the state continues down this path, they will be violating the law as well. I believe the original 60 days for the emergency order was up some time ago. Unless the legislature continues these restrictions via actual legislation, the mayor and governor are way out of bounds trying to enforce them.
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the new norm of detention
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/28/police-block-off-mccully-strip-mall-following-possible-covid-scare/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/28/police-block-off-mccully-strip-mall-following-possible-covid-scare/)
The Mayor approached this as a punishment rather than a health issue.
Caldwell called the three-week bar shutdown the result of a “few bad actors.”
That's the tone people usually express when teaching a lesson to a bunch of children...or remember basic training?
or...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQKaKMA3jks
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I try to look on the bright side. Masks make ugly people look better.
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By HNN Staff | July 28, 2020 at 1:20 PM HST - Updated July 28 at 3:14 PM
HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - To address a surge in new COVID-19 cases on Oahu, Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell is proposing to shut down all bars on Oahu for three weeks.
The shutdown, he said, would allow the Honolulu Liquor Commission to come up with a stronger enforcement program. The request will need to be approved by the governor.
The mayor also wants to take other actions aimed at slowing the spread of coronavirus.
For one, he wants to make masks mandatory inside and outside, including when you’re walking or jogging, playing team sports or watching them. (Masks aren’t required in the water.)
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/28/live-mayor-holds-news-conference-new-covid-cases-continue-grow/
Baldwell can go f himself with the walking, jogging etc and if he means inside to include my home that schmit stick can kiss my ass! >:D
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aren't all democrats fascists? Seems to me that all fascist political parties attach the term," democratic " to it! No get mad!! Just an observation!
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aren't all democrats fascists? Seems to me that all fascist political parties attach the term," democratic " to it! No get mad!! Just an observation!
Not only fascists but mealy mouth scum bags! :geekdanc:
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Pic taken 14 hours before green said everyone should wear a mask outside, even if you're alone.
He quickly put the mask up after he saw the phone.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200729/9d7f2e1ef2c5eae5c5b9a8c351199160.jpg)
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Pic taken 14 hours before green said everyone should wear a mask outside, even if you're alone.
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He's been like that since this the start of this. I used to see him walking for exercise around where I live. He would be on the news pushing how everyone should wear masks and $hitting on Ige for not pushing, but then Green and his wife no mask. Then Green is shown unloading PPE at Hickam with airmen all masked up and Green is right there, without a mask and it's LIVE on HNN. He's a damn hypocrit all around. :middlefinger:
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He's been like that since this the start of this. I used to see him walking for exercise around where I live. He would be on the news pushing how everyone should wear masks and $hitting on Ige for not pushing, but then Green and his wife no mask. Then Green is shown unloading PPE at Hickam with airmen all masked up and Green is right there, without a mask and it's LIVE on HNN. He's a damn hypocrit all around. :middlefinger:
Unfortunately I have to go Honolulu next month.
I'm glad I don't live on Oahu. I hate the place.
If you want to live in a city like that why not Los Angeles?
Your local government is scarier
than mine. I don't know who this Green guy is, but
the mayor is a work of Art, poster boy for
"do as I say not as I do" but that describes all Democrats.
where was his mask?
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outlaw tents! Thats it! :rofl: so drunk on power....
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/honolulu-looks-to-outlaw-large-tents-at-beaches-and-parks/ (https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/honolulu-looks-to-outlaw-large-tents-at-beaches-and-parks/)
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Home Depot and Walmart have flip-flopped on their mandates for customers wearing masks.
At first they said no exceptions. Then they came back and said they would not be denying customers not wearing masks access.
Enforcement comes with costs.
Legally, they can't force anyone to wear a mask who has a health condition that prevents it.
Also, they can't legally bar people without masks who have a health-related reason from shopping there.
I am unfamiliar with any laws about health conditions that trump all store policies?
There are ADA laws but I don't think they cover mask wearing. Even if mask wearing were covered by any of these laws there are always exemptions.
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Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a polite society and people would just wear the masks without laws or rules or people having to enforce the rules?
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Enforcement comes with costs.
I am unfamiliar with any laws about health conditions that trump all store policies?
There are ADA laws but I don't think they cover mask wearing. Even if mask wearing were covered by any of these laws there are always exemptions.
The laws are clear. Individuals with disabilities are a protected class. Violating the rights of anyone in the class is against federal law. Rights include being provided the same service as anyone else.
If I can't abide by store policy (wearing masks) due to a disability (can't breathe in a mask), then the ADA in fact protects me from being denied access.
Just like forcing stores to install elevators, wheelchair ramps and handicapped parking, they must accommodate my medical condition. Failure to comply denies easy access to the disabled.
Unless stores have some knowledge that I am infected (scanned me at the door for a fever or other symptoms of COVID), then they have no justification for fearing I'm contagious and therefore no justification for denying me access.
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questioning
Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a polite society and people would just wear the masks without ^ laws or rules
on everyone except BLM protesters?
or people having to enforce the rules ^ ?
FIFY
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Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a polite society and people would just wear the masks without laws or rules or people having to enforce the rules?
IMO I think COVID is a hoax portrayed by the DS for many reasons. Hoax as in its not as bad as they're making it seem.
But also I wear a mask because I want to be cautious and it doesn't make my life that much more difficult. Even wear goggles on some occasions.
Same goes with my view on religions. I don't believe in any 1 religion, but also not dumb enough to test any god/gods.
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The laws are clear. Individuals with disabilities are a protected class. Violating the rights of anyone in the class is against federal law. Rights include being provided the same service as anyone else.
If I can't abide by store policy (wearing masks) due to a disability (can't breathe in a mask), then the ADA in fact protects me from being denied access.
Just like forcing stores to install elevators, wheelchair ramps and handicapped parking, they must accommodate my medical condition. Failure to comply denies easy access to the disabled.
Unless stores have some knowledge that I am infected (scanned me at the door for a fever or other symptoms of COVID), then they have no justification for fearing I'm contagious and therefore no justification for denying me access.
But not all disabilities are protected nor are all disabilities protected in all cases. Like how a service dog can't bite a customer and get to remain in the restaurant, there are limits.
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IMO I think COVID is a hoax portrayed by the DS for many reasons. Hoax as in its not as bad as they're making it seem.
But also I wear a mask because I want to be cautious and it doesn't make my life that much more difficult. Even wear goggles on some occasions.
Same goes with my view on religions. I don't believe in any 1 religion, but also not dumb enough to test any god/gods.
I don't necessarily take all the numbers at face value. I know there are many intricacies in determining things like case fatality rate, transmition rate, permanent injuries, testing, antibody testing, etc. In the beginning I think the data from China did make it seem worse than it actually was due to the way China was handling it and limitations of medical capabilities there. So I would agree that we may have been led to believe it was worse than it actually was but I wouldn't say it was malicious. It is complicated to see a threat and react accordingly perfectly. Over react and it can be costly financially. Under react and it can be costly financially and economically.
Personally, I think that even though they may be over reacting a little I think they are trying their best and I agree with most of the steps that Hawaii has been taking. Better safe than sorry is a bit of an over-simplification but it is generally true.
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But not all disabilities are protected nor are all disabilities protected in all cases. Like how a service dog can't bite a customer and get to remain in the restaurant, there are limits.
There's a little store by my work run by an older couple. The wife is a Cancer survivor so the Virus concerns her. She has "No Mask, no enter" signs everywhere but people still do and make her ask them to put on a mask. At what point do her rights end so others can practice theirs...
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But not all disabilities are protected nor are all disabilities protected in all cases. Like how a service dog can't bite a customer and get to remain in the restaurant, there are limits.
Red herring.
Nobody needs a service animal to breathe without a mask.
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But not all disabilities are protected nor are all disabilities protected in all cases. Like how a service dog can't bite a customer and get to remain in the restaurant, there are limits.
You have no idea what you’re talking about when it comes to disabilities. The ADA prohibits discrimination against those with disabilities in all cases, and disability as defined by the EEOC is any condition that “substantially limits a major life activity.”
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I don't necessarily take all the numbers at face value. I know there are many intricacies in determining things like case fatality rate, transmition rate, permanent injuries, testing, antibody testing, etc. In the beginning I think the data from China did make it seem worse than it actually was due to the way China was handling it and limitations of medical capabilities there. So I would agree that we may have been led to believe it was worse than it actually was but I wouldn't say it was malicious. It is complicated to see a threat and react accordingly perfectly. Over react and it can be costly financially. Under react and it can be costly financially and economically.
Personally, I think that even though they may be over reacting a little I think they are trying their best and I agree with most of the steps that Hawaii has been taking. Better safe than sorry is a bit of an over-simplification but it is generally true.
" Better safe than sorry is a bit of an over-simplification but it is generally true."
Typical Democrat tyrant idea.
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Franklin
"I will not comply when I can get away with it."
Groveler.
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Lol! Stay safe everyone...
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Lol! Stay safe everyone...
That is the problem right there. Who's version of safety are we talking about? The one where we use our best judgement and accept the consequences, or the one where we surrender our rights to people who think they know what is best for us yet have a horrible track record of being wrong and completely hypocritical?
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That is the problem right there. Who's version of safety are we talking about? The one where we use our best judgement and accept the consequences, or the one where we surrender our rights to people who think they know what is best for us yet have a horrible track record of being wrong and completely hypocritical?
the majority of people don't agree with your logical, common sense reasoning
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the majority of people don't agree with your logical, most people are not capable ofcommon sense reasoning
FIFY
Or they are capable, but ainokea. . .
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"I will not comply when I can get away with it."
Groveler.
So a business puts up "NO MASK, NO ENTER" You'll go in without a mask anyway to see if you can "get away with it"?
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the same govt that covers up for "their people" we humbly obey with masks on...symbologic isn't it?
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/26091/Council-Candidate-Texeira-Gets-DUI-Court-Records-Sealed.aspx (http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/tabid/56/ID/26091/Council-Candidate-Texeira-Gets-DUI-Court-Records-Sealed.aspx)
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So a business puts up "NO MASK, NO ENTER" You'll go in without a mask anyway to see if you can "get away with it"?
Depends. If they have an online store that lets me shop, pay, and have them bring my stuff to the door/my vehicle, I have no problem with that.
I wouldn't insist on going in maskless just to make a point.
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Depends. If they have an online store that lets me shop, pay, and have them bring my stuff to the door/my vehicle, I have no problem with that.
I wouldn't insist on going in maskless just to make a point.
I guess I'll tell the old lady that works alone to establish an online shopping cart then... The thing I don't get is some people have reasons to fear this Virus so they try to take precautions but some insist their needs/wants are more important.
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I guess I'll tell the old lady that works alone to establish an online shopping cart then... The thing I don't get is some people have reasons to fear this Virus so they try to take precautions but some insist their needs/wants are more important.
There are always risks when serving the public. From what I've seen, most people don't know how to properly wear a mask. Pretending a mask is the ONE thing that sits between health and sickness is naive.
If the little old lady has a respiratory ailment that makes it difficult to breathe, will she wear a mask to protect her customers? Even if it risks worsening her condition or causing cardiac failure?
When does a business owner's rights supersede those of the customers?
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There are always risks when serving the public. From what I've seen, most people don't know how to properly wear a mask. Pretending a mask is the ONE thing that sits between health and sickness is naive.
If the little old lady has a respiratory ailment that makes it difficult to breathe, will she wear a mask to protect her customers? Even if it risks worsening her condition or causing cardiac failure?
When does a business owner's rights supersede those of the customers?
I'm literally speaking about a specific person and your speaking in hypotheticals, she wears a mask but assholes who go into her shop disregard her signs and do whatever the fuck they want. Why shop at a store that infringes on you, take your money somewhere else seems to solve this problem.
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I'm literally speaking about a specific person and your speaking in hypotheticals, she wears a mask but assholes who go into her shop disregard her signs and do whatever the fuck they want. Why shop at a store that infringes on you, take your money somewhere else seems to solve this problem.
You have to see the argument from both sides: store management and customer. It's not hypothetical. I know business owners with medical issues that might keep them from wearing a mask 8-12 hours a day while they work. That's much more problematic than a customer who just comes in for an hour or less.
Laws protecting certain classes from discrimination are exactly why you don't want to just go somewhere else. What about the 3, 13 or 300 others who wanted to shop there for the past few months and could not because of mask rules?
This is not about a simple disagreement over store policy. It's about following federal law. Can a store make a policy that wheelchair ramps won;t be installed? How about elevators for moving between floors in the store -- only escalators and stairs?
Sorry if you feel differently, but as I said, there are reasons businesses have to comply with accessibility accommodations. Not everyone is healthy enough to access all businesses without reasonable accommodations. At this point, I think we're just arguing over what's reasonable.
I'd be okay with a "Non-mask-wearer screening" at the entrance to take their temperature and observe if there are any COVID-19 type symptoms. Of course, that should also be done on everyone coming in -- just to be "safe".
There is an organization trying to push for a COVID-19 "passport". You take a test, and if it's negative, you get a code on your phone to show to anyone -- like at a store with a mask policy. That way they can let you in without fear that you have the virus.
The obvious flaw here is there's no way to maintain that status of being virus-free after the test! Nor is there any way to guard against false negatives. It's another example of the shortsightedness we have to live with as people refuse to accept what can, and can't, be done to stop the spread.
Let's say masks cut the rate of infection in half. Given that success, why stop there? Isolation can drop that new total another 50%. Shutting down businesses and schools forever will stop it up to 95%. The issue becomes whether or not the "cure" is worse than the disease. If I live alone and need to shop for food, home repair items or take advantage of a local sale on coffee, I should not be excluded from those businesses if I have a valid health condition in which masks worsen that condition.
I remember stories of when the general population placed the sick in isolation for the rest of their lives, cast out of society, out of fear of contracting the disease. Maybe it's time to bring back the Leper Colonies?
https://www.history.com/news/leprosy-colonies-us-quarantine
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A shop owner or business can do what ever they want. If you don't like their policies, shop else where.
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A shop owner or business can do what ever they want. If you don't like their policies, shop else where.
Tell that to the (I think gay) couple that sued to force a company to make a cake for them.
I dunno about anyone else, but if you're gonna need to sue me to make something that you're going to consume, I wouldn't recommend actually consuming said product. . .
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Tell that to the (I think gay) couple that sued to force a company to make a cake for them.
I dunno about anyone else, but if you're gonna need to sue me to make something that you're going to consume, I wouldn't recommend actually consuming said product. . .
That cake baker won the lawsuit, but only because of the nature of his work. He makes individualized cakes, which are considered more artwork than just food. As such, the baker was in essence being asked to invest his time and talents to produce a cake with a design and message he did not support: Gay Marriage. He would have sold them a basic wedding cake, but not a cake that's specifically for a Gay wedding.
The fact that the couple drove a long way, opting to not even try to use another baker closer to their home or venue, and then quickly filing a lawsuit indicates that they targeted this baker specifically because they are Christian-owned and operated.
Anyway, he wasn't refusing to bake for them because they were Gay. It was because of the type of cake they wanted. He'd have happily sold them something else.
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That cake baker won the lawsuit, but only because of the nature of his work. He makes individualized cakes, which are considered more artwork than just food. As such, the baker was in essence being asked to invest his time and talents to produce a cake with a design and message he did not support: Gay Marriage. He would have sold them a basic wedding cake, but not a cake that's specifically for a Gay wedding.
The fact that the couple drove a long way, opting to not even try to use another baker closer to their home or venue, and then quickly filing a lawsuit indicates that they targeted this baker specifically because they are Christian-owned and operated.
Anyway, he wasn't refusing to bake for them because they were Gay. It was because of the type of cake they wanted. He'd have happily sold them something else.
I remember a time when all they wanted was acceptance and tolerance.
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I remember a time when all they wanted was acceptance and tolerance.
No, they wanted special protections, just like all the other protected classes in the nation. Being part of that class gives you the right to make big money suing people whether or not they actually discriminated against you.
Now that playing the "Race" card is so popular, everyone else wants their cards added to the deck.
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Tell that to the (I think gay) couple that sued to force a company to make a cake for them.
I dunno about anyone else, but if you're gonna need to sue me to make something that you're going to consume, I wouldn't recommend actually consuming said product. . .
They drove by about 20 other bakery's also and 45 minutes. Wish 2a cases would get hearings that quickly.
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No, they wanted special protections, just like all the other protected classes in the nation. Being part of that class gives you the right to make big money suing people whether or not they actually discriminated against you.
Now that playing the "Race" card is so popular, everyone else wants their cards added to the deck.
Can I add a railroad card to represent the hardship of my people?
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Can I add a railroad card to represent the hardship of my people?
No laundry card? :geekdanc:
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No laundry card? :geekdanc:
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Red herring.
Nobody needs a service animal to breathe without a mask.
It was just an example to illustrate that there are exceptions to the rule.
Maybe I have a medical condition that I can't wear pants. Too bad, according to your logic they have to let me in the store without pants. :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
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There's a little store by my work run by an older couple. The wife is a Cancer survivor so the Virus concerns her. She has "No Mask, no enter" signs everywhere but people still do and make her ask them to put on a mask. At what point do her rights end so others can practice theirs...
Exactly. That is where limits on service animals start coming into play.
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" Better safe than sorry is a bit of an over-simplification but it is generally true."
Typical Democrat tyrant idea.
Oh what a ridiculous claim. I guess buying a case of ammo instead of one box makes you a tyrant. Do you not own any fire extinguishers or smoke detectors?
“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Franklin
And do tell, what "essential liberty" you are giving up by having to wear a mask?
"I will not comply when I can get away with it."
Groveler.
Sounds rather reckless and inconsiderate given the subject matter.
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It was just an example to illustrate that there are exceptions to the rule.
Maybe I have a medical condition that I can't wear pants. Too bad, according to your logic they have to let me in the store without pants. :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
The rule involves MASKS. Service dogs don't wear masks.
Are you saying you have a disability that prevents you from wearing pants? Maybe you should try a skirt or moo moo.
https://youtu.be/-VHlwcxUUnE
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If the little old lady has a respiratory ailment that makes it difficult to breathe, will she wear a mask to protect her customers? Even if it risks worsening her condition or causing cardiac failure?
There are very few instances where an ailment makes mask wearing dangerous. The whole "masks are dangerous" is mostly a myth spread by people who want to keep the conspiracy theory alive. If a couple layers of cotton makes it so hard to breath that you are risking injury then you aren't likely going to be going around to the park, the mall, and all the stores. Moreover if your respiratory illness is that bad you aren't going to go around without a mask risking covid19 infection anyway.
When does a business owner's rights supersede those of the customers?
Maybe when it is their business. You sound like a liberal. Want to go tell a bakery they have to make certain cakes next?
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There are very few instances where an ailment makes mask wearing dangerous. The whole "masks are dangerous" is mostly a myth spread by people who want to keep the conspiracy theory alive. If a couple layers of cotton makes it so hard to breath that you are risking injury then you aren't likely going to be going around to the park, the mall, and all the stores. Moreover if your respiratory illness is that bad you aren't going to go around without a mask risking covid19 infection anyway.
Maybe when it is their business. You sound like a liberal. Want to go tell a bakery they have to make certain cakes next?
You sound like a troll.
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The rule involves MASKS. Service dogs don't wear masks.
Strawman. I pointed out limits to ADA protections, while you are trying to compare one medical issue to another which is not relevant to my point.
Are you saying you have a disability that prevents you from wearing pants? Maybe you should try a skirt or moo moo.
I own a kilt, and no, you can't take a look underneath.
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You sound like a troll.
:stopjack:
Whatever dude O0
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Strawman. I pointed out limits to ADA protections, while you are trying to compare one medical issue to another which is not relevant to my point.
I own a kilt, and no, you can't take a look underneath.
I'm not the one saying he wants to walk around in stores without pants.
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Wearing a mask is the assumption that everyone is sick. When was the last time govt has told you and everyone else what to wear in public? Local govt also wanted to ban tents as well. What we have here is a draconian, authoritative govt administration that operates under the thin veil of public safety. They cited postings from unverified social media to support their claims that we are acting reckless as a whole and to justify more mandates. There's no science in these mandates; just broad strokes of general claims by medical personas. At times the Mayor sounds like a school teacher punishing the class for the misbehavior of a few.
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I'm not the one saying he wants to walk around in stores without pants.
I never said I wanted to.
I just showed a hypothetical to illustrate the flaw in your logic.
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Wearing a mask is the assumption that everyone is sick. When was the last time govt has told you and everyone else what to wear in public? Local govt also wanted to ban tents as well. What we have here is a draconian, authoritative govt administration that operates under the thin veil of public safety. They cited postings from unverified social media to support their claims that we are acting reckless as a whole and to justify more mandates. There's no science in these mandates; just broad strokes of general claims by medical personas. At times the Mayor sounds like a school teacher punishing the class for the misbehavior of a few.
Laws often dictate what clothes we have to wear. Requires us to wear clothing covering our genitals, requires us to wear clothing in food establishments, requires us to wear helmets on bicycles and motorcycles (in some jurisdictions), etc.
But there have actually been multiple scientific studies about the effectiveness of the masks. They even have tested various combinations of fabrics in homemade masks to find out what was effective and how effective it was. It isn't just claims by some medical persona.
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I never said I wanted to.
I just showed a hypothetical to illustrate the flaw in your logic.
The only flaw is with you thinking you can provide a logical and rational argument. Instead, it's all hypothetical nonsense.
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The only flaw is with you thinking you can provide a logical and rational argument. Instead, it's all hypothetical nonsense.
Funny as usual. Can't beat my argument so you attack me.
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Funny as usual. Can't beat my argument so you attack me.
I stopped trying to educate you a long time ago.
My goal now is to simply bait you into posting more and more, so others will get a better view of the swill that is your ideology.
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I stopped trying to educate you a long time ago.
My goal now is to simply bai you into posting more and more, so others will get a better view of the swill that is your ideology.
You dotted your “i” but missed the “t”...
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It was just an example to illustrate that there are exceptions to the rule.
Maybe I have a medical condition that I can't wear pants. Too bad, according to your logic they have to let me in the store without pants. :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:
You'd be arrested for public indecency/lewd behavior. It's a disability until it crosses the line into criminal behavior, i.e. Kleptomania. NUANCE.
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This is what its all about:
“What’s open is things we can control and where we’ve seen compliance.” - Mayor Caldwell
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/06/live-governor-outline-plan-reining-covid-surge-oahu/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/06/live-governor-outline-plan-reining-covid-surge-oahu/)
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just a few weeks ago Caldwell "opened" op Kalakaua and now he's blaming us for enjoying the outdoors?
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/06/05/breaking-news/kalakaua-avenue-to-close-for-walkers-joggers-and-bicyclists-on-sundays-mornings-in-waikiki/ (https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/06/05/breaking-news/kalakaua-avenue-to-close-for-walkers-joggers-and-bicyclists-on-sundays-mornings-in-waikiki/)
(https://www.staradvertiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/CTY-CALDWELL-PRESSER0169.jpg)
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the public is not to blame...your administration is
https://www.kitv.com/story/42469632/city-confirms-ten-employees-inside-honolulu-hale-and-honolulu-hale-annex-have-tested-positive-for-covid19 (https://www.kitv.com/story/42469632/city-confirms-ten-employees-inside-honolulu-hale-and-honolulu-hale-annex-have-tested-positive-for-covid19)
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just a few weeks ago Caldwell "opened" op Kalakaua and now he's blaming us for enjoying the outdoors?
https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/06/05/breaking-news/kalakaua-avenue-to-close-for-walkers-joggers-and-bicyclists-on-sundays-mornings-in-waikiki/ (https://www.staradvertiser.com/2020/06/05/breaking-news/kalakaua-avenue-to-close-for-walkers-joggers-and-bicyclists-on-sundays-mornings-in-waikiki/)
(https://www.staradvertiser.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/CTY-CALDWELL-PRESSER0169.jpg)
Glad to see Caldwell found a good use for the matching briefs that came with that shirt! :rofl:
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I stopped trying
Fixed it for you
My goal now is to simply bait you into posting more and more, so others will get a better view of the swill that is your ideology.
Fine by me. I make none of my views secret and stand by logic and objectivity.
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You'd be arrested for public indecency/lewd behavior. It's a disability until it crosses the line into criminal behavior, i.e. Kleptomania. NUANCE.
Of course. So if they pass a law saying people have to wear masks it would be a criminal violation.
The point of the absurd example was to show Flapp how the ADA isn't some Trump card that surpasses all other regulations and laws.
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/10/experts-covid-is-spreading-hawaii-faster-rate-than-anywhere-else-nation/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/10/experts-covid-is-spreading-hawaii-faster-rate-than-anywhere-else-nation/)
Dr. Scott Miscovich, who has overseen mass testing events statewide and on the mainland, said Hawaii’s reproduction rate is bad news.
“It’s just a glaring example of how we need to be serious about this. We need to wear masks, we need to social distance,” he said.
“We are spreading it in closed respiratory environments. Get outside. It’s very serious.”
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Yup that POS tells us to wear a mask and he’s to good to do it himself during his news conference today....
Fu-k him....
(https://i.imgur.com/J21N11Y.jpg)
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because the Covid loves to garden
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/12/citys-park-closure-is-cutting-off-gardeners-their-plants-public-plots/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/12/citys-park-closure-is-cutting-off-gardeners-their-plants-public-plots/)
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because the Covid loves to garden
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/12/citys-park-closure-is-cutting-off-gardeners-their-plants-public-plots/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/08/12/citys-park-closure-is-cutting-off-gardeners-their-plants-public-plots/)
Just get an expensive delivery service that drops off organic produce to your door. Thats what they do in Kahala.
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by: Max Rodriguez
Posted: Nov 27, 2020 / 07:34 PM HST / Updated: Nov 27, 2020 / 07:34 PM HST
HONOLULU (KHON2) — A resolution from Honolulu City Councilmember Ron Menor calls on adjustments to the state-wide mask mandate. Menor said that outdoor exemptions should be removed in order to better enforce the policy.
The current face-covering policy allows people who are at least six-feet apart while outdoors — and members from the same household — to remove their masks. Menor said this could be difficult for police officers to enforce, and removing these exemptions could make it easier for residents and visitors to understand the policy.
“I believe that this could bring greater clarity and strengthen the face mask mandate,” Menor said. “It can be more and effective and protect everyone, especially as we enter the holiday season.”
Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell is in favor of making these adjustments to the state-wide mask mandate, but he said it could take some time for every county mayor and the governor to be in agreement.
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/honolulu-city-councilor-calls-on-adjustments-to-the-state-mask-mandate/