Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside (Read 15783 times)

ren

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #40 on: August 04, 2020, 02:25:02 PM »
No, they wanted special protections, just like all the other protected classes in the nation.  Being part of that class gives you the right to make big money suing people whether or not they actually discriminated against you.

Now that playing the "Race" card is so popular, everyone else wants their cards added to the deck.


Can I add a railroad card to represent the hardship of my people?
Deeds Not Words

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #41 on: August 04, 2020, 02:59:38 PM »

Can I add a railroad card to represent the hardship of my people?

No laundry card?   :geekdanc:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Deeds Not Words

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #43 on: August 04, 2020, 10:00:51 PM »
Red herring.

Nobody needs a service animal to breathe without a mask.

It was just an example to illustrate that there are exceptions to the rule.

Maybe I have a medical condition that I can't wear pants. Too bad, according to your logic they have to let me in the store without pants.  :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #44 on: August 04, 2020, 10:01:53 PM »
There's a little store by my work run by an older couple.  The wife is a Cancer survivor so the Virus concerns her.  She has "No Mask, no enter" signs everywhere but people still do and make her ask them to put on a mask.  At what point do her rights end so others can practice theirs...

Exactly. That is where limits on service animals start coming into play.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #45 on: August 04, 2020, 10:05:27 PM »
" Better safe than sorry is a bit of an over-simplification but it is generally true."
Typical Democrat tyrant idea.

Oh what a ridiculous claim. I guess buying a case of ammo instead of one box makes you a tyrant. Do you not own any fire extinguishers or smoke detectors?

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“Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Franklin

And do tell, what "essential liberty" you are giving up by having to wear a mask?

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"I will not comply when I can get away with it."
Groveler.

Sounds rather reckless and inconsiderate given the subject matter.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #46 on: August 04, 2020, 10:07:29 PM »
It was just an example to illustrate that there are exceptions to the rule.

Maybe I have a medical condition that I can't wear pants. Too bad, according to your logic they have to let me in the store without pants.  :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

The rule involves MASKS.  Service dogs don't wear masks.

Are you saying you have a disability that prevents you from wearing pants?  Maybe you should try a skirt or moo moo.

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #47 on: August 04, 2020, 10:11:21 PM »
If the little old lady has a respiratory ailment that makes it difficult to breathe, will she wear a mask to protect her customers?  Even if it risks worsening her condition or causing cardiac failure?

There are very few instances where an ailment makes mask wearing dangerous. The whole "masks are dangerous" is mostly a myth spread by people who want to keep the conspiracy theory alive.  If a couple layers of cotton makes it so hard to breath that you are risking injury then you aren't likely going to be going around to the park, the mall, and all the stores. Moreover if your respiratory illness is that bad you aren't going to go around without a mask risking covid19 infection anyway.


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When does a business owner's rights  supersede those of the customers?

Maybe when it is their business. You sound like a liberal. Want to go tell a bakery they have to make certain cakes next?

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #48 on: August 04, 2020, 10:12:29 PM »
There are very few instances where an ailment makes mask wearing dangerous. The whole "masks are dangerous" is mostly a myth spread by people who want to keep the conspiracy theory alive.  If a couple layers of cotton makes it so hard to breath that you are risking injury then you aren't likely going to be going around to the park, the mall, and all the stores. Moreover if your respiratory illness is that bad you aren't going to go around without a mask risking covid19 infection anyway.


Maybe when it is their business. You sound like a liberal. Want to go tell a bakery they have to make certain cakes next?

You sound like a troll.

 :stopjack:
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #49 on: August 04, 2020, 10:13:12 PM »
The rule involves MASKS.  Service dogs don't wear masks.

Strawman. I pointed out limits to ADA protections, while you are trying to compare one medical issue to another which is not relevant to my point.


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Are you saying you have a disability that prevents you from wearing pants?  Maybe you should try a skirt or moo moo.

I own a kilt, and no, you can't take a look underneath.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #50 on: August 04, 2020, 10:14:53 PM »
You sound like a troll.

 :stopjack:

Whatever dude  O0

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #51 on: August 04, 2020, 10:19:16 PM »
Strawman. I pointed out limits to ADA protections, while you are trying to compare one medical issue to another which is not relevant to my point.


I own a kilt, and no, you can't take a look underneath.

I'm not the one saying he wants to walk around in stores without pants.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

ren

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #52 on: August 04, 2020, 10:20:27 PM »
Wearing a mask is the assumption that everyone is sick. When was the last time govt has told you and everyone else what to wear in public? Local govt also wanted to ban tents as well. What we have here is a draconian, authoritative govt administration that operates under the thin veil of public safety. They cited postings from unverified social media to support their claims that we are acting reckless as a whole and to justify more mandates. There's no science in these mandates; just broad strokes of general claims by medical personas. At times the Mayor sounds like a school teacher punishing the class for the misbehavior of a few.
Deeds Not Words

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #53 on: August 04, 2020, 10:41:40 PM »
I'm not the one saying he wants to walk around in stores without pants.

I never said I wanted to.
I just showed a hypothetical to illustrate the flaw in your logic.

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #54 on: August 04, 2020, 10:46:12 PM »
Wearing a mask is the assumption that everyone is sick. When was the last time govt has told you and everyone else what to wear in public? Local govt also wanted to ban tents as well. What we have here is a draconian, authoritative govt administration that operates under the thin veil of public safety. They cited postings from unverified social media to support their claims that we are acting reckless as a whole and to justify more mandates. There's no science in these mandates; just broad strokes of general claims by medical personas. At times the Mayor sounds like a school teacher punishing the class for the misbehavior of a few.

Laws often dictate what clothes we have to wear. Requires us to wear clothing covering our genitals, requires us to wear clothing in food establishments, requires us to wear helmets on bicycles and motorcycles (in some jurisdictions), etc.

But there have actually been multiple scientific studies about the effectiveness of the masks. They even have tested various combinations of fabrics in homemade masks to find out what was effective and how effective it was. It isn't just claims by some medical persona.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #55 on: August 04, 2020, 11:20:16 PM »
I never said I wanted to.
I just showed a hypothetical to illustrate the flaw in your logic.

The only flaw is with you thinking you can provide a logical and rational argument.  Instead, it's all hypothetical nonsense.
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

eyeeatingfish

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2020, 09:10:18 PM »
The only flaw is with you thinking you can provide a logical and rational argument.  Instead, it's all hypothetical nonsense.

Funny as usual. Can't beat my argument so you attack me.

Flapp_Jackson

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2020, 10:40:26 PM »
Funny as usual. Can't beat my argument so you attack me.

I stopped trying to educate you a long time ago.

My goal now is to simply bait you into posting more and more, so others will get a better view of the swill that is your ideology.
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The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.
-- George Bernard Shaw

drck1000

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2020, 12:59:32 AM »
I stopped trying to educate you a long time ago.

My goal now is to simply bai you into posting more and more, so others will get a better view of the swill that is your ideology.
You dotted your “i” but missed the “t”...

 :rofl:

Bota-CS1

Re: Fascist Caldwell wants to force mandatory mask wearing outside
« Reply #59 on: August 06, 2020, 06:54:11 AM »
It was just an example to illustrate that there are exceptions to the rule.

Maybe I have a medical condition that I can't wear pants. Too bad, according to your logic they have to let me in the store without pants.  :wacko: :wacko: :wacko: :wacko:

You'd be arrested for public indecency/lewd behavior.  It's a disability until it crosses the line into criminal behavior, i.e. Kleptomania.  NUANCE. 
No one is coming, it’s up to us.

Legislation should never be about depriving law abiding citizens of something, but rather taking those things away from criminals.