By HNN Staff | July 28, 2020 at 1:20 PM HST - Updated July 28 at 3:14 PM

HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - To address a surge in new COVID-19 cases on Oahu, Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell is proposing to shut down all bars on Oahu for three weeks.

The shutdown, he said, would allow the Honolulu Liquor Commission to come up with a stronger enforcement program. The request will need to be approved by the governor.

The mayor also wants to take other actions aimed at slowing the spread of coronavirus.

For one, he wants to make masks mandatory inside and outside, including when you’re walking or jogging, playing team sports or watching them. (Masks aren’t required in the water.)

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/28/live-mayor-holds-news-conference-new-covid-cases-continue-grow/

Stronger enforcement of conduct in bars?  Yeah, good luck with that.  Looking forward (laughingly) at what they'll come up for bars.  Special masks with port for a straw?

And I always thought of Caldwell as a hippie that occasionally does acid.  Did some google surfing and low and behold, hippie facists are a "thing".   

Home Depot and Walmart have flip-flopped on their mandates for customers wearing masks.

At first they said no exceptions.  Then they came back and said they would not be denying customers not wearing masks access.

Legally, they can't force anyone to wear a mask who has a health condition that prevents it.

Also, they can't legally bar people without masks who have a health-related reason from shopping there.

Third, they can't ask customers what the nature of their health-related problem is.

Basically, the law prevents them from refusing service to people with disabilities, and they can't enquire as to the nature of the disability.  Hence, any mask rules are unenforceable.

If the state continues down this path, they will be violating the law as well.  I believe the original 60 days for the emergency order was up some time ago.  Unless the legislature continues these restrictions via actual legislation, the mayor and governor are way out of bounds trying to enforce them.

the new norm of detention
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/28/police-block-off-mccully-strip-mall-following-possible-covid-scare/

The Mayor approached this as a punishment rather than a health issue.

Caldwell called the three-week bar shutdown the result of a “few bad actors.”

That's the tone people usually express when teaching a lesson to a bunch of children...or remember basic training?
or...

I try to look on the bright side.  Masks make ugly people look better.

By HNN Staff | July 28, 2020 at 1:20 PM HST - Updated July 28 at 3:14 PM

HONOLULU, Hawaii (HawaiiNewsNow) - To address a surge in new COVID-19 cases on Oahu, Honolulu Mayor Kirk Caldwell is proposing to shut down all bars on Oahu for three weeks.

The shutdown, he said, would allow the Honolulu Liquor Commission to come up with a stronger enforcement program. The request will need to be approved by the governor.

The mayor also wants to take other actions aimed at slowing the spread of coronavirus.

For one, he wants to make masks mandatory inside and outside, including when you’re walking or jogging, playing team sports or watching them. (Masks aren’t required in the water.)

https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/07/28/live-mayor-holds-news-conference-new-covid-cases-continue-grow/

Baldwell can go f himself with the walking, jogging etc and if he means inside to include my home that schmit stick can kiss my ass!

aren't all democrats fascists? Seems to me that all fascist political parties attach the term," democratic " to it! No get mad!! Just an observation!

aren't all democrats fascists? Seems to me that all fascist political parties attach the term," democratic " to it! No get mad!! Just an observation!

Not only fascists but mealy mouth scum bags!

Pic taken 14 hours before green said everyone should wear a mask outside, even if you're alone.

He quickly put the mask up after he saw the phone.

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Pic taken 14 hours before green said everyone should wear a mask outside, even if you're alone.

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He's been like that since this the start of this.  I used to see him walking for exercise around where I live.  He would be on the news pushing how everyone should wear masks and $hitting on Ige for not pushing, but then Green and his wife no mask.  Then Green is shown unloading PPE at Hickam with airmen all masked up and Green is right there, without a mask and it's LIVE on HNN.  He's a damn hypocrit all around.  :middlefinger:

He's been like that since this the start of this.  I used to see him walking for exercise around where I live.  He would be on the news pushing how everyone should wear masks and $hitting on Ige for not pushing, but then Green and his wife no mask.  Then Green is shown unloading PPE at Hickam with airmen all masked up and Green is right there, without a mask and it's LIVE on HNN.  He's a damn hypocrit all around.  :middlefinger:

Unfortunately I have to go Honolulu next month.
I'm glad I don't live on Oahu.  I hate the place.
If you want to live in a city like that why not Los Angeles?

Your local government is scarier
than mine.  I don't know who this Green guy is, but
the mayor is a work of Art, poster boy for
"do as I say not as I do" but that describes all Democrats.
where was his mask?

outlaw tents! Thats it!   so drunk on power....
https://www.khon2.com/coronavirus/honolulu-looks-to-outlaw-large-tents-at-beaches-and-parks/

Home Depot and Walmart have flip-flopped on their mandates for customers wearing masks.

At first they said no exceptions.  Then they came back and said they would not be denying customers not wearing masks access.

Enforcement comes with costs.

Legally, they can't force anyone to wear a mask who has a health condition that prevents it.

Also, they can't legally bar people without masks who have a health-related reason from shopping there.

I am unfamiliar with any laws about health conditions that trump all store policies?
There are ADA laws but I don't think they cover mask wearing. Even if mask wearing were covered by any of these laws there are always exemptions.

Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a polite society and people would just wear the masks without laws or rules or people having to enforce the rules?

Enforcement comes with costs.

I am unfamiliar with any laws about health conditions that trump all store policies?
There are ADA laws but I don't think they cover mask wearing. Even if mask wearing were covered by any of these laws there are always exemptions.

The laws are clear.  Individuals with disabilities are a protected class.  Violating the rights of anyone in the class is against federal law.  Rights include being provided the same service as anyone else.

If I can't abide by store policy (wearing masks) due to a disability (can't breathe in a mask), then the ADA in fact protects me from being denied access. 

Just like forcing stores to install elevators, wheelchair ramps and handicapped parking, they must accommodate my medical condition.  Failure to comply denies easy access to the disabled. 

Unless stores have some knowledge that I am infected (scanned me at the door for a fever or other symptoms of COVID), then they have no justification for fearing I'm contagious and therefore no justification for denying me access.

                                                                                                                                               questioning
Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a polite society and people would just wear the masks without  ^  laws or rules

                                                  on everyone except BLM protesters?
or people having to enforce the rules  ^  ?

FIFY

Wouldn't it be nice if we lived in a polite society and people would just wear the masks without laws or rules or people having to enforce the rules?

IMO I think COVID is a hoax portrayed by the DS for many reasons.  Hoax as in its not as bad as they're making it seem.

But also I wear a mask because I want to be cautious and it doesn't make my life that much more difficult.  Even wear goggles on some occasions.

Same goes with my view on religions.  I don't believe in any 1 religion, but also not dumb enough to test any god/gods.

The laws are clear.  Individuals with disabilities are a protected class.  Violating the rights of anyone in the class is against federal law.  Rights include being provided the same service as anyone else.

If I can't abide by store policy (wearing masks) due to a disability (can't breathe in a mask), then the ADA in fact protects me from being denied access. 

Just like forcing stores to install elevators, wheelchair ramps and handicapped parking, they must accommodate my medical condition.  Failure to comply denies easy access to the disabled. 

Unless stores have some knowledge that I am infected (scanned me at the door for a fever or other symptoms of COVID), then they have no justification for fearing I'm contagious and therefore no justification for denying me access.

But not all disabilities are protected nor are all disabilities protected in all cases. Like how a service dog can't bite a customer and get to remain in the restaurant, there are limits.

IMO I think COVID is a hoax portrayed by the DS for many reasons.  Hoax as in its not as bad as they're making it seem.

But also I wear a mask because I want to be cautious and it doesn't make my life that much more difficult.  Even wear goggles on some occasions.

Same goes with my view on religions.  I don't believe in any 1 religion, but also not dumb enough to test any god/gods.

I don't necessarily take all the numbers at face value. I know there are many intricacies in determining things like case fatality rate, transmition rate,  permanent injuries, testing, antibody testing, etc. In the beginning I think the data from China did make it seem worse than it actually was due to the way China was handling it and limitations of medical capabilities there. So I would agree that we may have been led to believe it was worse than it actually was but I wouldn't say it was malicious. It is complicated to see a threat and react accordingly perfectly. Over react and it can be costly financially. Under react and it can be costly financially and economically.

Personally, I think that even though they may be over reacting a little I think they are trying their best and I agree with most of the steps that Hawaii has been taking. Better safe than sorry is a bit of an over-simplification but it is generally true.

But not all disabilities are protected nor are all disabilities protected in all cases. Like how a service dog can't bite a customer and get to remain in the restaurant, there are limits.

There's a little store by my work run by an older couple.  The wife is a Cancer survivor so the Virus concerns her.  She has "No Mask, no enter" signs everywhere but people still do and make her ask them to put on a mask.  At what point do her rights end so others can practice theirs...