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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: stangzilla on October 26, 2021, 01:47:21 PM
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good idea by drck1000 to do a discussion on what you think is better: 1911, Hi Power, or CZ
I have never shot a Hi Power or CZ, only a lot of 1911's. so this will be a learning thread for me about the other 2 guns
I did not know how popular the Hi Power is world wide in various military's around the globe until i just watched a few videos about the gun. I don't know many people that own Hi Powers, or CZ's either. but I do know many that own 1911's. maybe that's a USA thing, i'm not sure
what are your opinions on which gun is the best, and why :thumbsup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkpprTes84c&t=81s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aKa6iddBA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCjSIejBMoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeTBBOPJHl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6lGsH7V5M4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpuTgR-ib5A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZZgs5YbQ3o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8us_bIciJ04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwjT6O1FZUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-1gjCbX6uk
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HK VP9
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Never shot a hi power before. Only shot a couple different 1911s and polymer cz's.
I voted for cz.
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Never shot a high power but got a couple of Dan Wessons and a CZ Shadow 2 Orange. Both the CZ and 1911s shoot good. If I had to choose I’d go with the Shadow 2.
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HK VP9
reading fundamentals....
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Hah I have all three.
I have a les Baer premier ii, a cz75 shadow and a custom ish Belgian BHP. (Dan Williams tuned, cut for trijicon sights a d redone in black t)
I'd take the hi power every day. They just feel right to me. Also you can run 38 super in the BHP if you can find an old barsto barrel used. You have to hand loads for it and run a stubby bullet but it used to be fair common back in the 60-70s
Suffice to say they are at least three of my top five favorites.
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good idea by drck1000 to do a discussion on what you think is better: 1911, Hi Power, or CZ
I have never shot a Hi Power or CZ, only a lot of 1911's. so this will be a learning thread for me about the other 2 guns
I did not know how popular the Hi Power is world wide in various military's around the globe until i just watched a few videos about the gun. I don't know many people that own Hi Powers, or CZ's either. but I do know many that own 1911's. maybe that's a USA thing, i'm not sure
what are your opinions on which gun is the best, and why :thumbsup:
SNIP
:geekdanc:
I'll def contribute more direct feedback when I have more time. That said, I own 1911 and CZ75B Shadow II Target, both in 9 mm. If I had a BHP in 9 mm, then I'd have a good baseline. That said, comparing my RIA 1911 to my CZ75 is like asking a Toyota Tercel to race a Fast & Furious type Integra.
HK VP9
Move aside and let the adults, with "real" steel frame guns talk. . . ;D
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Hah I have all three.
I have a les Baer premier ii, a cz75 shadow and a custom ish Belgian BHP. (Dan Williams tuned, cut for trijicon sights a d redone in black t)
I'd take the hi power every day. They just feel right to me. Also you can run 38 super in the BHP if you can find an old barsto barrel used. You have to hand loads for it and run a stubby bullet but it used to be fair common back in the 60-70s
Suffice to say they are at least three of my top five favorites.
Wow! That's an impressive line-up. But like me, two higher grade/tuned guns and one not. Or at least I assume the Belgian BHP is basic. Maybe not if that's the Dan Williams tuned. Then all three are decently upgraded/tuned.
I've handed a few Les Baers. Works of art really. The ones that I've handled all seemed to be very tightly fit, where I wondered how they would shoot if they got pretty dirty. Any feedback on that?
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Wow! That's an impressive line-up. But like me, two higher grade/tuned guns and one not. Or at least I assume the Belgian BHP is basic. Maybe not if that's the Dan Williams tuned. Then all three are decently upgraded/tuned.
I've handed a few Les Baers. Works of art really. The ones that I've handled all seemed to be very tightly fit, where I wondered how they would shoot if they got pretty dirty. Any feedback on that?
Nothing to report, really. I don't shoot a ton. I've had it since 1996 though. It's kind of a bitch to break down for cleaning so I don't clean as often as I should
I put the Cajun gun works kit in my shadow a year ago and haven't even shot it since. I hope the hammer spring isn't too light 😬
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This is kinda tough cuz the one CZ I have shot was stock and while it is a fine weapon it did not have a refined trigger. Same for the BHP. I have one and I love it. But I always wonder what it would be like if I just had a trigger job and maybe better sights. The problem with the 1911 is I have shot a lot of different 1911’s all the way from WWII relics to Les Baer and Wilson customs. And those customs spoil the heck out you. Because once you have shot a custom you don’t want anything else less.
So it is hard to to compare for me.
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So I don't have to google or spend time watching, can someone explain what's the big deal?
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So I don't have to google or spend time watching, can someone explain what's the big deal?
focus
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So I don't have to google or spend time watching, can someone explain what's the big deal?
THE HI-POWER IS BACK!
NEW Springfield SA-35 Hi-Power
Pistol Review
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2021/10/25/the-hi-power-is-back-new-springfield-sa-35-hi-power-pistol-review/
Maybe that will help?
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:geekdanc:
I'll def contribute more direct feedback when I have more time. That said, I own 1911 and CZ75B Shadow II Target, both in 9 mm. If I had a BHP in 9 mm, then I'd have a good baseline. That said, comparing my RIA 1911 to my CZ75 is like asking a Toyota Tercel to race a Fast & Furious type Integra.
Move aside and let the adults, with "real" steel frame guns talk. . . ;D
The CZ just begs to snap off doubles.
No recoil at all with that heavy frame weight thing. It really is a lovely pistol but the BHP has a little JM Browning magic and some interesting history
I had a cmp 1911. My frame sn came to something like 1914. It ran like a sewing machine. I sold it because I didn't want it to rust away here and shouldn't have. It was dumb
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Where's glock in the poll? ???
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Where's glock in the poll? ???
At the top of the "guns with God awful triggers" list
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At the top of the "guns with God awful triggers" list
At least it works every time. I can't say that of my 1911.
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Omni
Who is the maker? I had a cheap RIA and never had any issues while I owned it.
Flapp
That new clone looks interesting. I’ll wait a few years while it gets vetted. I wanted a FN BHP but they are too expensive for my budget
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Omni
Who is the maker? I had a cheap RIA and never had any issues while I owned it.
Flapp
That new clone looks interesting. I’ll wait a few years while it gets vetted. I wanted a FN BHP but they are too expensive for my budget
Colt. Not that it fails often but 1 or 2 times is more than my glock has ever failed.
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Interesting. By any chance were you using cheap under powered ammo and hadn’t cleaned it in a long time?
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Interesting. By any chance were you using cheap under powered ammo and hadn’t cleaned it in a long time?
My guess: limp-wristing.
:thumbsup: :rofl: :-*
There is a short list of what might cause a 1911 to malfunction. Most are solvable.
Colt 1911s have a tighter tolerance than many other brands. Until you break it in, you're going to have the potential for parts not "meshing" together.
500 rds is the recommended minimum from most 1911 makers to break it in. YMMV.
You may also have a better experience with a different brand or model magazine than with others.
https://youtu.be/chbBh4RCc_8
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Interesting. By any chance were you using cheap under powered ammo and hadn’t cleaned it in a long time?
It was cleaned and ammo was indeed the cheapest I could find. Not sure on its "power". As for flapp and the limp wristed. I purposely limp wristed my glock and it worked fine.
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My guess: limp-wristing.
:thumbsup: :rofl: :-*
There is a short list of what might cause a 1911 to malfunction. Most are solvable.
Colt 1911s have a tighter tolerance than many other brands. Until you break it in, you're going to have the potential for parts not "meshing" together.
500 rds is the recommended minimum from most 1911 makers to break it in. YMMV.
You may also have a better experience with a different brand or model magazine than with others.
https://youtu.be/chbBh4RCc_8
yep common cause of a lot of things in pistol from shooting low to semi malfunctioning
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another common reason for 1911's malfunctioning is : you got a cheapo 1911. can't go cheap on a 1911. you don't have to get a Wilson Combat or Nighthawk Custom, but get a good respected brand name that's been building them for a while
just like polymer pistols. get a hi point, and expect to get what you paid for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlPx-xJC_ZY&t=331s
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another common reason for 1911's malfunctioning is : you got a cheapo 1911. can't go cheap on a 1911. you don't have to get a Wilson Combat or Nighthawk Custom, but get a good respected brand name that's been building them for a while
just like polymer pistols. get a hi point, and expect to get what you paid for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlPx-xJC_ZY&t=331s
I've watched many of their vids this past month. Lots of good info and they're entertaining. Esp the not Wilson guy. OGAI OGAI OGAI. Sounds like a soup.
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I've watched many of their vids this past month. Lots of good info and they're entertaining. Esp the not Wilson guy. OGAI OGAI OGAI. Sounds like a soup.
Bill Wilson and Ken Hackathorn are smart gun guys :thumbsup: