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General Topics => General Discussion => Topic started by: oldfart on May 21, 2023, 05:34:36 PM
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17 yr old kid gets shot and dies.
Cops searching for the shooter.
Mom says victim "was a good kid with a big heart and she doesn't know why he had to die"
Cops says victim had a gun also.
end of story
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more laws...
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Kind of reminds me of that song...
"Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be punks"
Or something like that.
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Worst part is the father asking for more gun laws cohs too many kids getting their hands on guns. But his own son had a gun…kinda ironic.
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Worst part is the father asking for more gun laws cohs too many kids getting their hands on guns. But his own son had a gun…kinda ironic.
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already broke laws...cant have a gun if under 21. but of course, more laws because government is always the answer. Forget about parenting.
https://www.kitv.com/news/17-year-old-boy-shot-dead-at-makaha-beach-suspect-has-not-been-identified/article_188ffe84-f815-11ed-a1e6-17e7b21246fe.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/17-year-old-boy-shot-dead-at-makaha-beach-suspect-has-not-been-identified/article_188ffe84-f815-11ed-a1e6-17e7b21246fe.html)
His father, Miguel Boswell Agoo, along with family members say they want answers as to who did this and why.
"Asking the public or anyone if they know anything to step forward, even if the shooters if there's any love in your heart to step forward" shares Agoo.
Agoo also called to Governor Green and the legislature to enforce stricter gun laws.
He said the amount of children who get their hands on guns is out of control.
His family does not wish to release his name at this time.
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And isn't murder already illegal? Exactly what kind of more laws does he think would have prevented the death of his son? Sorry but you stupid.
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Kind of reminds me of that song...
"Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be punks assholes."
Or something like that.
I remember the last word of that song line had two syllables. Or something like that. ;)
But "punks" is good too. :thumbsup:
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17 yr old kid gets shot and dies.
Cops searching for the shooter.
Mom says victim "was a good kid with a big heart and she doesn't know why he had to die"
Cops says victim had a gun also.
end of story
Yeah, but you know how the media will spin this.
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Worst part is the father asking for more gun laws cohs too many kids getting their hands on guns. But his own son had a gun…kinda ironic.
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Father is a fucking idiot….
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Worst part is the father asking for more gun laws cohs too many kids getting their hands on guns. But his own son had a gun…kinda ironic.
When there are 2 people armed and one gets shot, the question we should be asking first is, "Was the person killed the aggressor, or the victim?"
Almost without fail, the press automatically labels the person shot/killed "the victim" whether or not the shooting was justified, and in this case they have no idea which it is.
It's not a good look to defend yourself and leave the scene without calling 911 (at least to get medical help), but if he was not legal to have a gun, there was a drug deal happening, etc., maybe he wanted to avoid those problems on top of trying to prove it was self defense.
I think the police and politicians have created an attitude of "F**k calling the Cops ... they only gonna ruin my life even though it was a righteous shoot." They publicly threatened how it will be worse to be a victim of the system than having guns for protection, so part of the problem at least is on them for being pro-criminal and anti-victim -- the real victim.
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Father is a fucking idiot….
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It wouldn't surprise me if the father was complicit.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the father was complicit.
It wouldn't surprise me if there's another son in the picture.
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When you read the article you come to this conclusion:
Criminals do not obey laws.
So what do you think all of these stupid sensitive places laws and CCW laws and yada yada yada gun control laws will do to deter and lower crime?
Nothing. Not. One. Damn. Thing.
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When you read the article you come to this conclusion:
Criminals do not obey laws.
So what do you think all of these stupid sensitive places laws and CCW laws and yada yada yada gun control laws will do to deter and lower crime?
Nothing. Not. One. Damn. Thing.
But ... think of the children!
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Thanks to the covid lockdowns there’s a whole generation of brain damaged psychos running around
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Thanks to the covid lockdowns there’s a whole generation of brain damaged psychos running around
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Wouldn't it be nice if there were a way to somehow accelerate the Darwin Effect?
Ie. Let nature naturally purge the mental defectives.
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Wouldn't it be nice if there were a way to somehow accelerate the Darwin Effect?
Ie. Let nature naturally purge the mental defectives.
Seems like it's happening on it's own. The question is how far away is a safe distance on a 600 square mile island with a million people?
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I'm keeping an eye on this because they just arrested the suspect.
I wanna see how news media and politicians spin this story.
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I'm keeping an eye on this because they just arrested the suspect.
I wanna see how news media and politicians spin this story.
Looks like they are downplaying the evil gun angle. It's hard to push for stricter laws when they were breaking laws about possession, concealed carry, places to keep, discharging a firearm in a public park, and I'm sure they were not unloaded and in a proper case while being transported, nor were the guns lawfully registered to a couple of teens.
I know. Logic didn't stop the father from going political. Maybe he's deflecting attention away from whatever his son was doing there. Two illegally armed teens in a Makaha park arguing after midnight. What could they have been doing there? What was the argument about?
The suspect is reported to be another teenager and police say it appears the two knew
each other and were engaged in an argument before the shooting.
It’s believed both were armed.
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/05/21/murder-investigation-underway-west-oahu-17-year-old-fatally-shot/
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I'm keeping an eye on this because they just arrested the suspect.
I wanna see how news media and politicians spin this story.
One thing in my opinion is clear: The only thing innocent in this whole incident were the firearms. If this doesn't show that firearms are tools like any other then I don't know what will.
All the ridiculous stupid gun control laws in this whole world wouldn't have prevented what went down that night.
The left wing media and politicians in this state will never point this out.
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How’s the new C&C of Honolulu’s sensitive places law working out???
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Thanks to the covid lockdowns there’s a whole generation of brain damaged psychos running around
At least they’re the same as all of the politicians, a few excluded, in Hawaii politics… ;)
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When there are 2 people armed and one gets shot, the question we should be asking first is, "Was the person killed the aggressor, or the victim?"
Almost without fail, the press automatically labels the person shot/killed "the victim" whether or not the shooting was justified, and in this case they have no idea which it is.
It's not a good look to defend yourself and leave the scene without calling 911 (at least to get medical help), but if he was not legal to have a gun, there was a drug deal happening, etc., maybe he wanted to avoid those problems on top of trying to prove it was self defense.
I think the police and politicians have created an attitude of "F**k calling the Cops ... they only gonna ruin my life even though it was a righteous shoot." They publicly threatened how it will be worse to be a victim of the system than having guns for protection, so part of the problem at least is on them for being pro-criminal and anti-victim -- the real victim.
"I think the police and politicians have created an attitude of "F**k calling the Cops ... they only gonna ruin my life even though it was a righteous shoot."
Y'all got that right.
The last thing in the world I'd do in Hawaii is to ask for police assistance, Talk to them, or depend on them.
They only protect and serve the government. Although you can say the government is here to serve the people,
is responsible to the people, elected by the people, I'd say you are full of it, as they only serve the Democrat party.
I've lived in Hawaii 23 years , The only government institution I trust is the fire department and many of them are volunteers.
:thumbsup:
All other government functions are so entwined with Democrat party dogma that they are to be avoided at all costs.
so what if this was a drug deal gone wrong, someone was either a killer or was defending themselves.
the guns were not the problem. the people were.
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How’s the new C&C of Honolulu’s sensitive places law working out???
It's preventing Law-abiding citizens from carrying in those places, so it's working as they intended it to.
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It's preventing Law-abiding citizens from carrying in those places, so it's working as they intended it to.
Yep. Sensitive places are for criminals (since they don't obey laws) to come and vent their frustrations, sorrows, and injustice complaints by shooting innocents incapable of defending themselves.
They (the anti-gun retards) are just waiting for a mass shooting to happen. Then they can hem and haw and wring their hands screaming "See??!! We need LAWS to confiscate EVERY fricken firearm in every household and from every citizen!!"
Dumb shits still don't realize that criminals do not obey laws.........Go ahead retards. Make more and more laws. Same thing going happen. Rinse and repeat.
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https://www.kitv.com/news/murder-of-makaha-teen-stirring-gun-violence-debate/article_d981b232-f91d-11ed-90f3-3b38b518c93f.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/murder-of-makaha-teen-stirring-gun-violence-debate/article_d981b232-f91d-11ed-90f3-3b38b518c93f.html)
Miguel Agoo Jr. was the youngest of eight children -- just getting started in life when he was killed by gun violence.
According to sources, he was also carrying a gun when officers arrived at the scene at Makaha Beach Park.
"I know my son wasn't an angel too, but nobody deserves to get shot down, anybody," said his father Miguel Boswell Agoo. "And no parent needs to find out that their son is dead through a gun wound to the head."
Agoo's father said he had no idea.
Boswell Agoo said the government must step in to stop the violence before it spreads across the islands.
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spidey-sense tells me dad has no credibility
If I were a detective assigned to this case, I would be investigating all those older siblings AND the dad.
Unless the family is related to the detective. Then it's all good.
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Do a search for Miguel Agoo on Ecourt Kokua.
Thats the longest rapsheet Ive seen.
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Do a search for Miguel Agoo on Ecourt Kokua.
Thats the longest rapsheet Ive seen.
now we know who Karl Rhoads consults for anti 2a bills.
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Going through the criminal record, it's mostly domestic abuse, TRO's, DUI's, driving without a license. Never seen so many before.
He does have one felony for theft.
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Do a search for Miguel Agoo on Ecourt Kokua.
Thats the longest rapsheet Ive seen.
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Going through the criminal record, it's mostly domestic abuse, TRO's, DUI's, driving without a license. Never seen so many before.
He does have one felony for theft.
And what, only 17 years old? WTF. :rofl:
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And what, only 17 years old? WTF. :rofl:
he's talking about the dad...
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And what, only 17 years old? WTF. :rofl:
Anyone under 18 would not show up on ekokua. My speeding ticket I got when I was 16 or 17 doesn't show.
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Sorry guys. Missed the Jr. part?
Anyway, Jr. had a great role model.
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And what, only 17 years old? WTF. :rofl:
It's for the father. The son is the JR and records aren't public for.minors.
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So the mother says on the news, “ Why did my son have to die?” He was a good kid with a loving heart.”
I can tell you why, but you not going like the answer.
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Had about 10 sign wavers infront the capitol today. Signs saying "end gun violence". Their sign should have said "raise better kids". All looked like they was from Makaha side.
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Wouldn't it be nice if there were a way to somehow accelerate the Darwin Effect?
Ie. Let nature naturally purge the mental defectives.
Just take all of the warning labels off of products and it will sort itself out. :thumbsup:
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Just take all of the warning labels off of products and it will sort itself out. :thumbsup:
This would be interesting.
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This just ??? :grrr: :grrr: :crazy:
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/rally-for-gun-violence-awareness-held-at-state-capitol-on-tuesday/article_bb2ee342-f998-11ed-91a9-c3275a3197e7.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/rally-for-gun-violence-awareness-held-at-state-capitol-on-tuesday/article_bb2ee342-f998-11ed-91a9-c3275a3197e7.html)
Miguel's father, Miguel Boswell Agoo, says he had no idea his son had a gun and doesn't know how and where he got it. He, along with many others in the community, are pushing for stricter gun laws to put an end to gun violence.
Agoo says change needs to be made so no other family has to suffer like his family.
"As a parent, they hide the guns from the parents and to me the question is, how can these guys, any part of this island, distribute guns? Who is distributing these guns to them? Is the law enforcement doing their job? Is the government legislation hard on them to get these guys off street? Is the punishment and consequence strong enough for these kids to learn a lesson?" Agoo asked.
Agoo and others in the community are calling on Gov. Josh Green to create change in our community to prevent gun violence from taking another life.
We should call on our lawmakers to create a more, ultra, super-sensitive places bill along with no crime zones along Makaha. How about curfews?
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This just ??? :grrr: :grrr: :crazy:
https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/rally-for-gun-violence-awareness-held-at-state-capitol-on-tuesday/article_bb2ee342-f998-11ed-91a9-c3275a3197e7.html (https://www.kitv.com/news/crime/rally-for-gun-violence-awareness-held-at-state-capitol-on-tuesday/article_bb2ee342-f998-11ed-91a9-c3275a3197e7.html)
Miguel's father, Miguel Boswell Agoo, says he had no idea his son had a gun and doesn't know how and where he got it. He, along with many others in the community, are pushing for stricter gun laws to put an end to gun violence.
Agoo says change needs to be made so no other family has to suffer like his family.
"As a parent, they hide the guns from the parents and to me the question is, how can these guys, any part of this island, distribute guns? Who is distributing these guns to them? Is the law enforcement doing their job? Is the government legislation hard on them to get these guys off street? Is the punishment and consequence strong enough for these kids to learn a lesson?" Agoo asked.
Agoo and others in the community are calling on Gov. Josh Green to create change in our community to prevent gun violence from taking another life.
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Has Anyone heard if ATF/HPD Traced the origin of the two handguns yet? Stolen? Etc. It's sad that an individual under 21 who CANNOT Legally own a handgun used one to commit this crime. Both "kids" had Guns! Wow! why don't we have "curfews"? Why don't responsible parents allows Children under the age of 18 "run around" after 10:00pm on a weeknight? Do objects such as gun commit acts of Violence? Again within the State of Hawaii, we have some the "toughest" gun laws. Look at other States: Illinois, California, etc. Did "TOUGH" laws, stop GUN VIOLENCE? NO! ..The Real question that needs to be asked was WHY did these Teens feel they needs a gun?
Don't restrict the LEGAL Gun Owners! Be a better parent first!
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Now we're also up to 10-15 suicide attempts per day
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/05/23/honolulu-health-officials-report-alarming-increase-suicide-attempts-especially-among-young-people/
It's almost like someone gave these kids a dangerous drug that drove them crazy
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Now we're also up to 10-15 suicide attempts per day
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/05/23/honolulu-health-officials-report-alarming-increase-suicide-attempts-especially-among-young-people/
It's almost like someone gave these kids a dangerous drug that drove them crazy
It's from the fear of all these people now able to conceal carry in public. Oh, the horror! :shake:
Well, it will be when the licenses eventually get issued. Some are just getting a head start so they make the headlines. No sense in waiting until their fear becomes reality. :geekdanc:
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My favorite character in this tragedy is the dad.
I think he learned how to talk after getting to know so MANY lawyers from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE.
spidey-sense is telling me zero credibility.
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The Dad is taking the high road here so he doesn't come across as a deadbeat do-do daddy which he is.
My opinion of course.
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Alright guys. Don't go carrying any guns on the Westside. Waipahu to Makaha is now an ultra sensitive gun free zone. Knives and clubs are ok.
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It's almost like someone gave these kids a dangerous drug that drove them crazy
They did. it's called liberalism. Or now Progressivism
If all goes according to planned , it should take care of itself. Making sure you kill the unborn, and sterilize the kids with gender reassignment surgery, then remove hope, and encourage physician assisted suicide, problem should work itself out in 1 generation.
P.S. warning label comment, like it :)
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https://youtube.com/shorts/R4tW0HYV3MY?feature=share
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Alright guys. Don't go carrying any guns on the Westside. Waipahu to Makaha is now an ultra sensitive gun free zone. Knives and clubs are ok.
Don’t forget cars and pickups are ok too! :)
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Don’t forget cars and pickups are ok too! :)
Westside is GMC SIlverado territory. Not much Tacomas.
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Don’t forget cars and pickups are ok too! :)
I thought only cops were allowed to assault people with their vehicles. I better go read over the HRS again.
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I thought only cops were allowed to assault people with their vehicles. I better go read over the HRS again.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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So rumor is dead kid was a drug dealer at waianae HS who often robbed other drug dealers.
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So rumor is dead kid was a drug dealer at waianae HS who often robbed other drug dealers.
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That's a tough one. Nobody wants to spread rumors about dead kids, but recently we've had way too many dead degenerates held up as saints and used as an excuse to strip our rights away.
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That's a tough one. Nobody wants to spread rumors about dead kids, but recently we've had way too many dead degenerates held up as saints and used as an excuse to strip our rights away.
Well his mother did say he was a good kid with a loving heart.
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https://www.khon2.com/local-news/father-of-murdered-teen-speaks-out-at-west-oahu-townhall/ (https://www.khon2.com/local-news/father-of-murdered-teen-speaks-out-at-west-oahu-townhall/)
Miguel Boswell, Sr. — whose 17-year-old son Miguel, Jr. was shot and killed in Makaha last Sunday, May 21 — pleaded for action from the town hall participants to curb gun violence.
“I guess he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Kids will be kids, but nobody expects a kid to be playing around with a gun. I want to convey to the news that it’s better to have one person feel like they are broken, hurt, and destroyed, than a whole state.” Boswells said.
Miguel Boswell, Sr.
Miguel Sr. appealed for stricter laws against ghost guns and measures to keep guns out of children’s hands.
This is why government is so big in Hawaii. When we fail as citizens we ask the govt to intervene. Then we lose more freedom and rights.
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https://www.khon2.com/local-news/father-of-murdered-teen-speaks-out-at-west-oahu-townhall/ (https://www.khon2.com/local-news/father-of-murdered-teen-speaks-out-at-west-oahu-townhall/)
Miguel Boswell, Sr. — whose 17-year-old son Miguel, Jr. was shot and killed in Makaha last Sunday, May 21 — pleaded for action from the town hall participants to curb gun violence.
“I guess he was at the wrong place at the wrong time. Kids will be kids, but nobody expects a kid to be playing around with a gun. I want to convey to the news that it’s better to have one person feel like they are broken, hurt, and destroyed, than a whole state.” Boswells said.
Miguel Boswell, Sr.
Miguel Sr. appealed for stricter laws against ghost guns and measures to keep guns out of children’s hands.
This is why government is so big in Hawaii. When we fail as citizens we ask the govt to intervene. Then we lose more freedom and rights.
Did the subject of parental responsibility come up at all? What was his high schooler doing out getting into whatever he was up to after midnight?
I'm pretty sure my kids never left the house after midnight without my wife and me knowing. If they did, they'd be driven anywhere they needed to go for a few months so we know where they are, who they are with, and what they are doing.
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Major Mike Lambert of hpd said at the meeting "if you think you need a gun, then you not rugged."
By his own words, he himself is not rugged bc he needs a gun himself
I spoke with another officer that I know about citizens being legally armed and they said the same thing
But, to be fair not all cops feel that way. another officer I know a lot better has nothing against being legally armed
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Major Mike Lambert of hpd said at the meeting "if you think you need a gun, then you not rugged."
By his own words, he himself is not rugged bc he needs a gun himself
I spoke with another officer that I know about citizens being legally armed and they said the same thing
But, to be fair not all cops feel that way. another officer I know a lot better has nothing against being legally armed
That's one of the most ignorant statements to ever come out of anyone's mouth, much less a Cop.
There are people who are weak due to genetics, disease, injury, age and gender.
Then there's the multiple attacker (gang) situation that nobody, even a "rugged' Cop, could handle.
And if someone else is already armed with the intention of doing you harm, you're already screwed -- rugged or not.
"Survival of the fittest" is not supposed to be the law of the land in a civilized society.
Ignorant, stupid and typical.
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these arent children. these are criminals. the gun didnt turn them into criminals. they became criminals and then they armed themselves.
they want to play gangster? no. they are gangsters.
they want more gun laws to prevent these kinds of things? fine, im for it. make the parents liable for the crimes of the children. the children gets caught with a gun, or murdering with one? fine. the parent goes to jail for the crime.
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Major Mike Lambert of hpd said at the meeting "if you think you need a gun, then you not rugged."
By his own words, he himself is not rugged bc he needs a gun himself
I spoke with another officer that I know about citizens being legally armed and they said the same thing
But, to be fair not all cops feel that way. another officer I know a lot better has nothing against being legally armed
I mentioned this in other threads: HPD is no longer "Honolulu's Finest".
Far from it.
This idiot is proof.
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That's one of the most ignorant statements to ever come out of anyone's mouth, much less a Cop.
There are people who are weak due to genetics, disease, injury, age and gender.
Then there's the multiple attacker (gang) situation that nobody, even a "rugged' Cop, could handle.
And i someone else is already armed with the intention of doing you harm, you're already screwed -- rugged or not.
"Survival of the fittest" is not supposed to be the law of the land in a civilized society.
Ignorant, stupid and typical.
With the rank of Major I guess this doofus has been in admin too long and attended too many town hall meetings and forgot what it's like out there walking the beat.
All talk and no walk.
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Media still silent of the dead kids actions. Guess they never talked to anyone who goes to Waianae HS.
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Going through the criminal record, it's mostly domestic abuse, TRO's, DUI's, driving without a license. Never seen so many before.
He does have one felony for theft.
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The dad has a long rap sheet
At the community meeting his t-shirt says:
ARMED
TRAINED
READY TO RUN IN 2021
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jus' sayin'
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The dad has a long rap sheet
At the community meeting his t-shirt says:
ARMED
TRAINED
READY TO RUN IN 2021
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jus' sayin'
The media also left out his statement about "you can teach kids about trannies, but not gun control". Something along those lines.
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the alarm on my crap detector is getting worn out
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The dad has a long rap sheet
At the community meeting his t-shirt says:
ARMED
TRAINED
READY TO RUN IN 2021
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jus' sayin'
I noticed his t shirt too
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https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/01/im-torn-apart-grieving-oahu-family-searches-solutions-youth-gun-violence-after-suspect-is-indicted-after-fatal-shooting/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2023/06/01/im-torn-apart-grieving-oahu-family-searches-solutions-youth-gun-violence-after-suspect-is-indicted-after-fatal-shooting/)
“You guys need to focus on where these young men are getting guns,” said one parent. “How are they learning to be murderers at 16?”
“It’s not right, and it’s not fair for families to be putting their children six feet under because these young boys want to play gangster,” the parent added.
For some reason, Michael Jackson's song "Man in the Mirror" comes to mind.
It sounds to me that these "parents" want the government to be parents to their children.
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Denzel Washington said: If a boy does not have a father at home,
he will find his father on the streets.
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the alarm on my crap detector is getting worn out
Mine wen broke wen the dad started talking. :rofl:
Of course the media crap was wearing it thin and then it snapped wen the dad started preaching to the choir.
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That's one of the most ignorant statements to ever come out of anyone's mouth, much less a Cop.
There are people who are weak due to genetics, disease, injury, age and gender.
Then there's the multiple attacker (gang) situation that nobody, even a "rugged' Cop, could handle.
And if someone else is already armed with the intention of doing you harm, you're already screwed -- rugged or not.
"Survival of the fittest" is not supposed to be the law of the land in a civilized society.
Ignorant, stupid and typical.
Pigs aint smart but love to squeal…..
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Media still silent of the dead kids actions. Guess they never talked to anyone who goes to Waianae HS.
Doesn't fit their agenda. They don't want to report that gun crimes are committed by those who don't follow or respect the law.
It goes against their goal of making law abiding citizens that legally own firearms criminals by default.
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“the children gets caught with a gun, or murdering with one? fine. the parent goes to jail for the crime.”
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Along with their fucking rug rat! >:D
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If there’s a bunch of crazies running around with guns, you probably need a gun
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If there’s a bunch of crazies running around with guns, you probably need a gun
Agree wholeheartedly. :thumbsup:
However, trying to convince this logical solution to our politicians, anti-gun sheeple, and their media in arms is fruitless.
They rather you die by the hands of these crazies than give you a chance of defending yourself. As long as they are out of the picture, safe in their momma's basement or protected by their security detail.
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I guess another guy in the getaway vehicle got popped and had a gun.
3 underage guys with guns?
How come they don’t report where the guns came from or if they were not registered.
Three stolen guns ?
Three Black Market guns ?
Three “Ghost” guns ? ( No way. That would have been reported immediately)
Parents guns ?
It was against all laws for these underage guys to have guns.
But we need more laws ?
At least Tupola said she doesn’t think it will change with one law or person.
Takes a Community and a little edumacation.
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Any gun that can not be identified is a ghost gun. Forget non-binary firearms. They are firearmphobic. Serial number scratched off? Ghost gun!
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Ill bet dictoator green gonna sign sb1230 in response to this.
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Ill bet dictoator green gonna sign sb1230 in response to this.
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Did the subject of parental responsibility come up at all? What was his high schooler doing out getting into whatever he was up to after midnight?
I'm pretty sure my kids never left the house after midnight without my wife and me knowing. If they did, they'd be driven anywhere they needed to go for a few months so we know where they are, who they are with, and what they are doing.
This was taken from gofundme
“My beloved baby brother Miguel Agoo. Loved by so many. A child of 8 siblings, the last of our bunch. The next generation of us. The 8 of us is all we have. He’s a son, grandson, Brother, an uncle. We lost over gun violence. He loved fishing, riding bikes, fixing bikes & not only fixing bikes but anything that would be broken around my house. He always asked if I needed help around the house, always made us laugh, and always made sure everyone around him is alright. I’m his sister 20 years old, that took care of him & raised him like my own. We never really had our parents in our lives. We the 8 of us raised each other. I nor my family have the finances to give him a funeral and/or celebration of life that he deserves. He didn’t deserve anything that had happened to him. He’s a good kid with a beautiful heart. He’s always made sure his sisters were good. He’s so young and had so much ahead of him in life. He had such a beautiful heart. I seen a future mechanic & so much other great things he could’ve made of himself. We have just lost our sister not even a year ago. And now my baby brother was taken from us! I’m asking for any help, anything helps please.”
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There's a lot going on
https://archives.starbulletin.com/2006/10/29/news/story06.html (https://archives.starbulletin.com/2006/10/29/news/story06.html)
https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/06/woman-dies-after-apparent-suicide-at-oahu-jail/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/06/woman-dies-after-apparent-suicide-at-oahu-jail/)
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/05/22/inmate-release-due-covid-fears-arrested-bus-stop-robbery/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/05/22/inmate-release-due-covid-fears-arrested-bus-stop-robbery/)
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There's a lot going on
https://archives.starbulletin.com/2006/10/29/news/story06.html (https://archives.starbulletin.com/2006/10/29/news/story06.html)
https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/06/woman-dies-after-apparent-suicide-at-oahu-jail/ (https://www.civilbeat.org/2022/06/woman-dies-after-apparent-suicide-at-oahu-jail/)
https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/05/22/inmate-release-due-covid-fears-arrested-bus-stop-robbery/ (https://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/2020/05/22/inmate-release-due-covid-fears-arrested-bus-stop-robbery/)
What a family history. That’s so sad. Something’s up with baby daddy that just ain’t right. It’s like he’s trying to capitalize on the tragedy BLM style.
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Oahu stay all jam up. Too many people. Even where I live in rural Puna getting crowded. I now get neighbors both sides, but at least no one can
build behind us. Heavy tree growth blocks out the neighbors houses from view.
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This was taken from gofundme
“My beloved baby brother Miguel Agoo. Loved by so many. A child of 8 siblings, the last of our bunch. The next generation of us. The 8 of us is all we have. He’s a son, grandson, Brother, an uncle. We lost over gun violence. He loved fishing, riding bikes, fixing bikes & not only fixing bikes but anything that would be broken around my house. He always asked if I needed help around the house, always made us laugh, and always made sure everyone around him is alright. I’m his sister 20 years old, that took care of him & raised him like my own. We never really had our parents in our lives. We the 8 of us raised each other. I nor my family have the finances to give him a funeral and/or celebration of life that he deserves. He didn’t deserve anything that had happened to him. He’s a good kid with a beautiful heart. He’s always made sure his sisters were good. He’s so young and had so much ahead of him in life. He had such a beautiful heart. I seen a future mechanic & so much other great things he could’ve made of himself. We have just lost our sister not even a year ago. And now my baby brother was taken from us! I’m asking for any help, anything helps please.”
So the HIFICO mag lawsuit GFM was taken down with in an hour. But yet this one remains?
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So the HIFICO mag lawsuit GFM was taken down with in an hour. But yet this one remains?
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what is the rule about the GoFu--Me site?
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what is the rule about the GoFu--Me site?
IDK, but kid had a gun too. But not proven in court.
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IDK, but kid had a gun too. But not proven in court.
You can't solicit for the legal defense of someone charged with a violent crime. Since he's dead, that's not an issue.
You also can't use false or misleading information to solicit donations.
i reported the fundraiser to GFM. I said it contains false information. According to police, it was likely drug-related. It happened in a closed public park after midnight. The deceased was a minor and carrying a pistol. The stated cause of death in the fundraiser description was "gun violence", No mention of his criminal acts -- illegally possessing and carrying a loaded firearm for starters.
Blaming the gun is fashionable and politically correct, but at least two young people decided to illegally have a firearm that night. No matter what transpired, that fact alone makes this a criminal act on the part of the deceased, which should not be rewarded via donations going to the family.
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i reported the fundraiser to GFM. I said it contains false information. According to police, it was likely drug-related. It happened in a closed public park after midnight. The deceased was a minor and carrying a pistol. The stated cause of death in the fundraiser description was "gun violence", No mention of his criminal acts -- illegally possessing and carrying a loaded firearm for starters.
This is my grumble. The mag lawsuit was taken down in 1 hour, but yet this one is still up.
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Does anyone if they "traced" the guns? I didn't hear them use the term "Ghost Gun" Again or that the firearm(s) were reported stolen.
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Does anyone if they "traced" the guns? I didn't hear them use the term "Ghost Gun" Again or that the firearm(s) were reported stolen.
Crickets. So I'll say it's a lost HPD handgun. There's a reason why this portion is being buried. They didn't even want to say the model/make.
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there are many, many possibilities that have a greater chance of being correct than "lost HPD handgun"
pure speculation, much more than "i'll say"...
Crickets. So I'll say it's a lost HPD handgun. There's a reason why this portion is being buried. They didn't even want to say the model/make.
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there are many, many possibilities that have a greater chance of being correct than "lost HPD handgun"
pure speculation, much more than "i'll say"...
Lost Fed handguns
Fed sting operation handguns (like Fast & the Furious)
Stolen from HPD armory or evidence
Stolen from Fed armory or evidence
The typical pattern the media uses isn't being used for this one.
Brb, grabbing the tin foil hat.
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you left out aliens, chemtrails, and menehune...
Lost Fed handguns
Fed sting operation handguns (like Fast & the Furious)
Stolen from HPD armory or evidence
Stolen from Fed armory or evidence
The typical pattern the media uses isn't being used for this one.
Brb, grabbing the tin foil hat.
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you left out aliens, chemtrails, and menehune...
Chemtrails cannot steal a gun. Aliens and menehune can. Focus
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The takeaways from this is that our local government is inclined to listen to a person with a spotty past, a broken family over law-abiding, working-class citizens who want to lawfully protect themselves. I think that this is what the local political elites want - a broken family that is highly dependent on government - thus creating a loyal, voting base. Not good for the State in the long run but good for those in charge living in their ivory towers above us.